M1t & 19 nor stack

Not really practical, Cycles of 19nor should be run for 6-8weeks, and I wouldn't go more than 20days with the M1T.
You couldn't run M1T for say the first 2 weeks, and the 19nor for a total of 6-8weeks.
Your libido will be so destroyed I don't think it's worth it.
 
Bad idea. Those are 2 of the most highly suppresive androgens around. And 19-nor will not help offest any of the m1t sides.
I suggest getting 4ad & running that with m1t. The best way would be to run 4ad alone 1-2 weeks, then run it with your m1t for 20 days, then run 4ad alone for 1-2 weeks more.
 
maybe he's married and does not need to worry about libido. while on deca I did not notice a drop off in libido till the end of the cycle. with m1t this iis different. if you can handle the sides it would be ok but listen to the guys in the other posts.
 
Longdog said:
Bad idea. Those are 2 of the most highly suppresive androgens around. And 19-nor will not help offest any of the m1t sides.
I suggest getting 4ad & running that with m1t. The best way would be to run 4ad alone 1-2 weeks, then run it with your m1t for 20 days, then run 4ad alone for 1-2 weeks more.
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whoa - why do you recommend 4-ad for 1-2 weeks after you stop taking M1T? that sounds like a horrible idea and a good way to get gyno....once that M1T use is stopped and you're almost fully suppressed, you'll have nothing to keep your estrogen levels from skyrocketing....plus 4-ad's aromatization will contribute to that. care to explain the rationale if i missed it?
 
wastedwhiteboy2 said:
maybe he's married and does not need to worry about libido. .
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Sorry, i dont mean to be a wise guy but this made me laugh.! How come once you buy the damn cow, the milk dries up? LOL.
 
I'm trying to figure that one out myself. I dont get any so I dont need to stack with 4ad for libido. although she got really horny once when I was in pct from deca. I did my best and went to sleep. oh well.
 
THEBRAKES said:
whoa - why do you recommend 4-ad for 1-2 weeks after you stop taking M1T? that sounds like a horrible idea and a good way to get gyno....once that M1T use is stopped and you're almost fully suppressed, you'll have nothing to keep your estrogen levels from skyrocketing....plus 4-ad's aromatization will contribute to that. care to explain the rationale if i missed it?
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M1t is commonly used at the beginning of a longer cycle. I (& many others) have done this several times with no estrogen problems. There is no additional risk of gyno caused by stopping the m1t.
 
I might run a 19 Nor/1test/4ad cycle in a few months..but definitely plan on having your libido destroyed for the last part of the cycle and into PCT.

I've run 4ad/19Nor cycles before and they are very nice bulkers run together but the libido sides are rough. didn't even think about sex for 2-3 weeks..felt like a unick.
 
Longdog said:
M1t is commonly used at the beginning of a longer cycle. I (& many others) have done this several times with no estrogen problems. There is no additional risk of gyno caused by stopping the m1t.
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huh??? maybe you didnt read it the whole way through. you recommended running 4-ad 2 weeks AFTER stopping M1T and NOT using any other androgens. coming off M1T with only 4-ad in your system is a great way to get gyno....i cant see why you suggest finishing a cycle with 4-ad solo.
 
BIOMAN, you said I've run 4ad/19Nor cycles before and they are very nice bulkers run together but the libido sides are rough. didn't even think about sex for 2-3 weeks..felt like a unick.[/QUOTE]

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I'm thinking about doing the same 4ad/nordiol trans cycle. I was thinking 400mg/200mg ed....any comments. This would be Custom's stuff, gel and all. ? Appreciate it.
 
Sounds like a good starting point. Have nolva or letro handy as it is a little wet. I didn't have any outright gyno symptoms but it was lurking in the background lol.
 
jeremiah1710 said:
BIOMAN, you said I've run 4ad/19Nor cycles before and they are very nice bulkers run together but the libido sides are rough. didn't even think about sex for 2-3 weeks..felt like a unick.
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I'm thinking about doing the same 4ad/nordiol trans cycle. I was thinking 400mg/200mg ed....any comments. This would be Custom's stuff, gel and all. ? Appreciate it.[/QUOTE

2:1 seems good. I wouldnt stack a nor alone and 4ad should help. 200 mg of nor-diol though? The effective dose for that is 400-900mg i beleive for a transdermal. Why not a 1:1 ?
 
Custom recomended the 2:1 ratio. I would think that with 1:1 you wouldn't get enough 4ad to offset the low libido and lethargy from the nordiol.
 
A buddy of mine just married a virgin. Both of them waited until marriage, and they're apparently going at it like 6 or 7 times a week for the past three years.

Maybe not a bad tradeoff. Is it really that uncommon not to get any when married? I've definitely walked in on my parents a time or two.

Oh well, I'll second upping the 4-AD. Not from experience, but from reading up on that of others and word of mouth.
 
For a beginner cycle, we want to note that the testosterone compound is the most active compound and its therefore more desirable to lower the dose of nandrolone rather than the dose of testosterone. Often beginners look to start at 400 mg of nandrolone and 250 mg of testosterone. A better suggestion would be 200 mg of nandrolone and 500 mg of testosterone. Then bump the nandrolone to 400 mg.

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