wti66stang
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I just saw this advertised on a website but do not see it on your website, is it still available? I heard it is a clone of dianabol, is that correct?
m1, 4add
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ironmanc74
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I contacted CEL yesterday and the reply I got was that the website was being updated in the next few weeks. The product is available on other websites. To answer the d-bol clone question. I read on this website a copy of an article from another site which I won't name here. An analysis of the chemical name for M1-4ADD showed that it is a precursor of D-bol. I'm still looking for more info on this myself. If I find the article I'll re-post it or get the link. It was very informative and more or less answers all questions.
Harland
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well according to this thread http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/64820-designer-steroid-prohormone.html
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ironmanc74
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this is just the info relative to M1-4DD that I read in the article I mentioned earlier. Just for added reading. If knowledge is power I want more. I did just notice one slight difference in the article. It read 17bdiol as opposed to 17diol. I'm no chemist so whether this was a typo or a different compound similar in name I don't know. One thing is for sure I'm definitely interested in giving it a go as well as several other products. I'm new to using PH but not PH's. Been training and competing for 21 years (13 competetive) Finally after reaching what I felt was my natural potential here I am. Anyway enough of that. Heres that clip from the article:
"17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadien-3b,17bdiol
This is a Dianabol precursor. It differs only in the presence of a hydroxyl group in the 3 position, where a ketone is supposed to be, however the conversion of the hydroxyl to the ketone in the body should be quite efficient. The possibility exists, however, for any remaining unconverted material to exert direct estrogenic effects, but I have not heard of any user reports concerning this that have raised any alarm. Dianabol, of course, is a decent anabolic compound with modest androgenic action and low toxicity for a 17a-methyl. Most people feel good on Dianabol and I see no reason why they would not feel similarly on this stuff, unless the estrogen problem I mentioned becomes an issue. Users would likely need a minimum of 25mg to start seeing gains. This stuff came out years ago and when I tested it at the time on my GC/MS I found it contained a mixture of the correct compound and its delta-4 analog (which would be a methyltestosterone precursor). This was likely due to the process used to manufacture it from Dianabol called a borohydride reduction. It gives a mixture of these two isomers unless a certain catalyst is used and apparently the Chinese who made it were not aware of this catalyst. I remember that made me chuckle at the time, but I am sure the Chinese steroid manufacturers have come a long way since then".
Written by Patrick Arnold for Muscular Development
"17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadien-3b,17bdiol
This is a Dianabol precursor. It differs only in the presence of a hydroxyl group in the 3 position, where a ketone is supposed to be, however the conversion of the hydroxyl to the ketone in the body should be quite efficient. The possibility exists, however, for any remaining unconverted material to exert direct estrogenic effects, but I have not heard of any user reports concerning this that have raised any alarm. Dianabol, of course, is a decent anabolic compound with modest androgenic action and low toxicity for a 17a-methyl. Most people feel good on Dianabol and I see no reason why they would not feel similarly on this stuff, unless the estrogen problem I mentioned becomes an issue. Users would likely need a minimum of 25mg to start seeing gains. This stuff came out years ago and when I tested it at the time on my GC/MS I found it contained a mixture of the correct compound and its delta-4 analog (which would be a methyltestosterone precursor). This was likely due to the process used to manufacture it from Dianabol called a borohydride reduction. It gives a mixture of these two isomers unless a certain catalyst is used and apparently the Chinese who made it were not aware of this catalyst. I remember that made me chuckle at the time, but I am sure the Chinese steroid manufacturers have come a long way since then".
Written by Patrick Arnold for Muscular Development
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It is available.
It is similiar to dianabol, but not a direct clone of it as dianabol is not legal.