M-STEN

dlbuck23

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About to start a cycle of the pro hormone m-sten a bulking pro hormone. I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with dosage, what kinda of liver support, pct and etc...
 
About to start a cycle of the pro hormone m-sten a bulking pro hormone. I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with dosage, what kinda of liver support, pct and etc...

If you are asking about the most basic of steroid cycle questions, you're not ready. You should take a few months, at least, to research some basic rules to steroid use as well as some chemical knowledge. You should be telling us what you're going to do, then getting it tinkered with. Steroids aren't just a new amino acid to add to your regimine. This is serious business.
 
Not to sound like a dick but have you even tried to research? You just want us to spoon feed you everything? If your actually committed to the lifestyle you would WANT to learn. The fact that your very first post was you pretty much you asking us to spoon feed you makes me feel like your a high school kid who wants to get "big and ripped" fast. Again I could be wrong, but come on man, that was your very first post. I would of respected it a lot more if you would of said something like " thinking about starting my first cycle. can you point me in the right direction to where i can educate myself." Even thats a little lazy considering there are hundreds if not thousands of threads across the internet . I am kind of rambling, but come on bro don't be so lazy.
 
20mg for 4 weeks.
Follow pct advice of nolva 20-20-10-10
Have an AI on hand (formestane, Arimidex, aromasin)

Cycle support or cycle assist during msten and pct
Fish oils throughout

In pct add some DAA at 3g /day

If you run into libido issues in pct find any natty test booster.

There's tons of info, but in the end you could ask 5 ppl and get 6 opinions. Gotta find what works for you. Each cycle should teach you more about your body BUT you should be prepared for all side effects.
 
Ar1imicare pro is what I use it has Tudca in it and NAC I Believe it's all I use on cycle it's also a test booster estrogen blocker etc,,,,,
 
Why would I need research to tell me my preference?

Do you know my body or any issues I may

Sorry brotha, didn't mean to get you offended. Yeah we are all different body types' what goes for one doesn't go for the other. I just was clarifying that since research with 500mg was done' it is a good starting point for us to use.
 
If you are taking 20 mg or less of msten then you dont need anything too excessive as far as liver support. a simple cycle support will suffice just fine. msten is not as harsh on the liver as other compounds such as super-drol.
 
what's wrong with that ... It has 500mg NAC aswell 120pills 4 pills a day

It's lower than the studied amount of 500mg for protection, 1g + is the studied amount for recovery. The NAC dosage is low as well. You'd get 15 doses if you wanted to even get close to a proper amount.

Why would I need research to tell me my preference?

Do you know my body or any issues I may have?

So you're saying you don't care about studies or science. Got it.
 
It's lower than the studied amount of 500mg for protection, 1g + is the studied amount for recovery. The NAC dosage is low as well. You'd get 15 doses if you wanted to even get close to a proper amount. So you're saying you don't care about studies or science. Got it.

HaHa Im gunna say a prayer tonight and pray that one day I bump into you.. I'd love for you to show me how all of your science and studies help you recover..

Fingers Crossed...
 
While science isn't always 100% accurate for every individual, it's useful to take into consideration, especially if you aren't having regular blood work done.

I use it at 1g/daily and would recommend that as well.
 
Op in pct id use nolva cel pct assist and reduce xt. Its a win for oral only cycles.
 
While science isn't always 100% accurate for every individual, it's useful to take into consideration, especially if you aren't having regular blood work done.

I use it at 1g/daily and would recommend that as well.

Ya, its one of those things that I dont really see someone "overdosing". Just run what you can afford to.
 
HaHa Im gunna say a prayer tonight and pray that one day I bump into you.. I'd love for you to show me how all of your science and studies help you recover..

Fingers Crossed...

So you've now threatened me via PM as well as in a round-about way in this thread. What a fantastic show of character. What a stellar rep you are indeed. You can't even discuss or debate science vs anecdote without taking it personal and threatening people. Pathetic.
 
So you've now threatened me via PM as well as in a round-about way in this thread. What a fantastic show of character. What a stellar rep you are indeed. You can't even discuss or debate science vs anecdote without taking it personal and threatening people. Pathetic.

It happens bro, you'll be alright..
Bottom line is, your a Troll to me, I do not wish to have any conversations with you..
You hop on, throws shots and wise a$$ comments out there on people who don't have at much knowledge as you... How about we help them a little bit or just pass up the thread..

I went back and read through a lot of your old threads you started, and you were once that guy as we'll with those questions you were asking..
We all have to start somewhere bro...

And tbh, I don't need research on subjects who are not myself.. I live and learn through my own experiences.. If I comment on a thread here and give advice 9/10 it's not something I read in a magazine or a book which I guess makes it gospel.. But you do whatever works for you, you are full of knowledge, but your arrogant..
Rep or not, It doesn't matter..
But I'm going to go out of my way to avoid threads you post in to keep the bickering to a minimum because that's really not what AM is here for..

Sorry for jacking in your thread OP..
 
I'm just finishing a cycle of M-Sten and Dimethylandrostenol in which I ran it at 20mg for 5 weeks.
To be honest, I probably wouldn't run it again without a test base of some sort. Try dermacrine or tr3st alongside it. Better yet, use it as a kickstart to a test cycle. :yup:
 
I'm on TRT and last year I added Ultradrol for a little boost and definitely felt it at 7mg. 14mg was giving me back pumps like crazy. The gains were nice, the scale was definitely moving with just the 7mg dose. M-sten is some nice stuff.
 
I ran ultradrol for 5 weeks, last to weeks went up to 21mg. It was stack with oral trest. Gains were solid lean mass.
 
I'm running 40 mg daily along with 40 mg alpha one and 80 mg of pmag. Gonna drop the alpha/mag after a week and upp the msten to 60 mg daily.
 
I'm in week 2 of dmz and msten 20mg msten 36mg dmz stack and all I can say is this is the best stack I've had so far strength is insane and gains as well this is my 4th PH cycle and my favorite so far , I was told my stack was not that great but hey it's working better than i expected
 
m-sten at 20mg-30mg should be more than enough. no reason to ever go higher. but ya stacking dmz and sten at 20m each is insane. it felt stronger/harsher than 20mg sd to me. for me i think 250mg ot tudca or udca is enoug per day. infact i dont taka any usually and am fine and that included bw 2 weeks after pct.
 
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