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M-STEN vs M-DROL?

xf900

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Hey,

I found a UK shop that sells a brand called Core Labs X. They have both a M-STEN and a M-DROL. Looking at the compound in both of them they are identical which appears to be M-STEN. I emailed them and asked them what the difference is since they both have the same compound and they said:


Msten is wet mass and more toxic –
mdrol is more popualar and better​

Is M-DROL supposed to be Superdrol? I have always ran M-STEN with good results. I would be planning to run it again I am just trying to get more information on the above.
 
xf900 said:
Hey,

I found a UK shop that sells a brand called Core Labs X. They have both a M-STEN and a M-DROL. Looking at the compound in both of them they are identical which appears to be M-STEN. I emailed them and asked them what the difference is since they both have the same compound and they said:


Msten is wet mass and more toxic –
mdrol is more popualar and better​

Is M-DROL supposed to be Superdrol? I have always ran M-STEN with good results. I would be planning to run it again I am just trying to get more information on the above.
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Mdrol is superdrol

i believe it is much harsher/provides quicker and more gains then Msten ( i havent ran both this is just from my research and talking to people about it )
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
Mdrol is superdrol

i believe it is much harsher/provides quicker and more gains then Msten ( i havent ran both this is just from my research and talking to people about it )
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Did you run both from that company,?

The answer they gave him, told him nothing.
 
Yeah the answer wasn't really what I was looking for. I did some research and came across that M-Drol = SD but wasn't sure why the compound is the same. And now the site I was looking at doesn't have the M-Sten in stock and only the M-Drol... Dam should have ordered last week.
 
xf900 said:
Yeah the answer wasn't really what I was looking for. I did some research and came across that M-Drol = SD but wasn't sure why the compound is the same. And now the site I was looking at doesn't have the M-Sten in stock and only the M-Drol... Dam should have ordered last week.
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It shouldnt be the same .. its very similiar for sure

Msten will start with 2,17 and Mdrol will start with 2a,17

i just quickly searched Core Labs X Mdrol and the write up does say Mdrol .. if the labels are same you wouldnt be able to tell without testing whats in it

if u do find they are different and its a legit label .. i would search for logs/reviews of superdrol or cel mdrol was very popular back in the days and people were getting huge in 3weeks but gains come with a price lol
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
It shouldnt be the same .. its very similiar for sure

Msten will start with 2,17 and Mdrol will start with 2a,17

i just quickly searched Core Labs X Mdrol and the write up does say Mdrol .. if the labels are same you wouldnt be able to tell without testing whats in it

if u do find they are different and its a legit label .. i would search for logs/reviews of superdrol or cel mdrol was very popular back in the days and people were getting huge in 3weeks but gains come with a price lol
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Yeah. I think I have ran M-Drol like 10 years ago or I can't even remember. I am able to manage the sides on M-Sten decently (fatigue, lethargy, back pumps). I wouldn't want to push it harder with M-Drol so I will just continue with M-Sten but throw in a little bit of DMZ this round. Just hope this stuff is legit.
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
It shouldnt be the same .. its very similiar for sure

Msten will start with 2,17 and Mdrol will start with 2a,17

i just quickly searched Core Labs X Mdrol and the write up does say Mdrol .. if the labels are same you wouldnt be able to tell without testing whats in it

if u do find they are different and its a legit label .. i would search for logs/reviews of superdrol or cel mdrol was very popular back in the days and people were getting huge in 3weeks but gains come with a price lol
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I don't know which (European, I'm assuming) website he's looking at, but the one I saw ....
The write-ups on these two products look like they were done by a 4th grade girl.

:oops::ROFLMAO:😎:D
 
xf900 said:
Yeah. I think I have ran M-Drol like 10 years ago or I can't even remember. I am able to manage the sides on M-Sten decently (fatigue, lethargy, back pumps). I wouldn't want to push it harder with M-Drol so I will just continue with M-Sten but throw in a little bit of DMZ this round. Just hope this stuff is legit.
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yeah i would never recommend mdrol to anyone man .. even those 3 sides alone can be painful but if you can tolerate it and have given enough time in between cycle/pct .. i would continue with that and hope the stuff is legit

best of luck man
 
Renew1 said:
I don't know which (European, I'm assuming) website he's looking at, but the one I saw ....
The write-ups on these two products look like they were done by a 4th grade girl.

:oops::ROFLMAO:😎:D
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usually those sites are run by 4year old girls mixing stuff in their parents basement .. so i wouldnt count out that scenario
 
SD is dramatically stronger mg vs mg. You could take 50mg of msten tho and have similar results to 30mg SD. (SD would still probably be stronger)

Something I want you to take into consideration though, SD is going to make you gain weight and strength and recomposition better than msten while you're taking it. But all those wonderful cosmetic effects that superdraw brings will disappear when you stop taking it. The results you get from either one of them after a 4 to 6 week cycle are probably going to be similar once the cosmetic effects disappear
 
SD is great if you wanna use it for like 3-4 weeks to peak for strength or look your best on a certain day, but if you throw it in at the beginning of a injectable cycle I think it's just going to jack up your strength so fast that once you come off at the rest of your cycle is going to be disappointing. Or your strength will go up too fast and you're going to hurt yourself because that happens to a lot of people too.

But if you're just running an oral only cycle I would pick something weaker per se or safer would be the better word, because then you can use it longer and actually build some real muscle that you're going to hold on to after the cycle ends...... It's still pretty awesome stuff though LOL
 
Dude I love superdrol. You just have to take a lower dosage and a shorter cycle. I like to start with superdrol and then start something milder at the end.
 
I emailed the site where I saw these. This was their response:

"It is the exact same product, it just has several names for it"
 
So what we have learned here is that CORE LABS is a shitty company that doesn't even know what there selling. They have shady business practices like giving one product multiple different names and selling it as different products. Even giving their product the name of a well-known compound that it actually is not. All of those things right there would point me in the direction of saying who knows if there's anything even in these or they're just sugar pills, or maybe some other cheaper ph stuffed in a bottle with a msten or mdrol Label.

I absolutely would NOT purchase any products from them!
 
scuncknuts said:
Dude I love superdrol. You just have to take a lower dosage and a shorter cycle. I like to start with superdrol and then start something milder at the end.
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i recommend totally opposite of that .. i feel its wrong to start SD and then wait it out .. reason being .. soon as SD cycle is finished i wanna jump into PCT asap .. you will lose those gains so quick if you bridge into a milder cycle not too mention the sides sticking around

just my thought .. no right or wrong but what i recommend.
 
Smont said:
So what we have learned here is that CORE LABS is a shitty company that doesn't even know what there selling. They have shady business practices like giving one product multiple different names and selling it as different products. Even giving their product the name of a well-known compound that it actually is not. All of those things right there would point me in the direction of saying who knows if there's anything even in these or they're just sugar pills, or maybe some other cheaper ph stuffed in a bottle with a msten or mdrol Label.

I absolutely would NOT purchase any products from them!
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Well, I was not able to find any reviews on this company. Doesn't mean they are good but also doesn't mean they are bad. Labeling does bring up some issues but I wonder if it is due to SD being labeled as an actual steroid versus a PH? I went with Brawn anyways so not trying this out.
 
Brawn is legit, I have tried multiple products from them. Core Labs is very popular in Eastern Europe. I assume this store is located in Poland and starts with "b", they are legit also, I buy my PH/Sarms from them.
 
Renew1 said:
I'm not quite sure what you mean here. ... But SD and Msten are both Steroids.
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I thought the FDA? classified SD as an anabolic steroid where the msten is still considered a ph which allows it to be sold differently or something? I don't know, i don't get into the legalities of that. Just trying to do research on whats bunk and not. I settled for Brawn MSten and some Built DMZ which I have read some reviews about it being g2g.
 
timberx said:
Brawn is legit, I have tried multiple products from them. Core Labs is very popular in Eastern Europe. I assume this store is located in Poland and starts with "b", they are legit also, I buy my PH/Sarms from them.
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Yeah that is correct. I tried to pay but my bank or card or whatever was not going through with them.
 
xf900 said:
I thought the FDA? classified SD as an anabolic steroid where the msten is still considered a ph which allows it to be sold differently or something? I don't know, i don't get into the legalities of that. Just trying to do research on whats bunk and not. I settled for Brawn MSten and some Built DMZ which I have read some reviews about it being g2g.
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No, they're both steroids.
... And they're both "legally" steroids.
 
xf900 said:
Well, I was not able to find any reviews on this company. Doesn't mean they are good but also doesn't mean they are bad. Labeling does bring up some issues but I wonder if it is due to SD being labeled as an actual steroid versus a PH? I went with Brawn anyways so not trying this out.
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There both anabolic steroids
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
i recommend totally opposite of that .. i feel its wrong to start SD and then wait it out .. reason being .. soon as SD cycle is finished i wanna jump into PCT asap .. you will lose those gains so quick if you bridge into a milder cycle not too mention the sides sticking around

just my thought .. no right or wrong but what i recommend.
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It's personal preference vs. your own personal side effects.

I don't lose my appetite and in the past when I've had blood work done shortly after everything looked good surprisingly, so I go straight for 30mg because that's where I feel like it provides the cosmetic effects, I know plenty of guys who take it up to 50mg and stack it with other orals (pre contest) short burst last 3 weeks leading into a show. On the forums we talk a lot about safe use and we greatly exaggerate the liver health stuff. But outside the forums, in the actual bodybuilding world, a lot of guys stack the crap out of there orals. 50mg SD + 100mg anadrol +50mg Winny. That's my boys peek week for powerlifting. And guys on bodybuilding contest prep, waayyyyyyy more.

None of which I'm recommending nor would I do myself.

Just saying.

On the opposite side of the fence though I think if you want to use something like SD as your primary muscle builder then a low 10 to 20 mg dose stretched out a little bit longer is going to be better for building actual muscle, and less harmful
 
Pulse superdrol. Lots of older logs here and most report much much less sides and still gain high single low double digit (not saying you'll keep it all at all).... or just run something else. Superdrol is harsh and well known to be.
 
EpiStrong said:
Pulse superdrol. Lots of older logs here and most report much much less sides and still gain high single low double digit (not saying you'll keep it all at all).... or just run something else. Superdrol is harsh and well known to be.
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I think "pulsing" if your on testosterone is a great idea, (using it 3-4 times a week specifically to drive your workouts) but if your running just orals and doing that your putting yourself on a hormonal rollercoaster ride and asking for problems. I remember all the guys talking about pulsing back in the day because some dude came up with a Dr d method or whatever you want to call it but I don't remember a single one of them showing before and after photos or blood work to back up there claims.

I've used SD Dialy a few times. Every time I've gained about a pound a day and gotten dramatically stronger. The size gains are mostly cosmetic and disappear after you come off but definitely a good muscle builder too

But when I "pulsed" it, pre workout only, I got none of those cosmetic effects. Didn't gain nearly as much weight, but strength gains were about 80% there still.

Pulsing is not all it's cracked up to be
 
To each their own on the pulsing of it. It was a very popular concept before the prohormone ban and, if not for it, I believe would still be popular. That said I'm not advocating it just saying the search bar will show a bunch on it in single digit to teen 2000's. Running super daily and at lower dosage like 10 mgs instead of 30 also showed good gains vs side effect tradeoff... there's a bunch of logs or anadotal reviews on here on this way of using the compound too.
 
EpiStrong said:
To each their own on the pulsing of it. It was a very popular concept before the prohormone ban and, if not for it, I believe would still be popular. That said I'm not proposing it or advocating it just saying the search bar will show a bunch on it in single digit to teen 2000's. Running super daily and at lower dosage like 10 mgs instead of 30 also showed good gains vs side effect tradeoff... there's a bunch of logs or anadotal reviews on here on this way of using the compound too.
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I know all about the logs I was a member here back when a lot of them were going on. The problem is that none of the ppl doing the logs were showing their results or getting blood work so there's no proof of their gains and there's no proof of it being safer or less side effects other than their word. And the problem with that is that many of those ppl were highschool kids. Yes to each there own. My opinion is just my opinion. But, it's also a fact that there was little to no actual proof of the results/lack of health consequences
 
Truthfully I doubt most that take prohormones get bloodwork. Much of how you feel is what is gone by since it is usually the initial encounter into the anabolic world.
 
EpiStrong said:
Truthfully I doubt most that take prohormones get bloodwork. Much of how you feel is what is gone by since it is usually the initial encounter into the anabolic world.
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SD is a anabolic steroid not a prohormone but that's irrelevant I guess. You are correct the majority of them are not getting blood work. Almost none of them are. The only point I'm trying to make is that a bunch of old internet logs with no actual proof is not something to hold a lot of stock in. These things are not very healthy or completely safe. There is things we can do to minimize the effects. But we don't wanna say, hey I heard a bunch of ppl use to pulse this stuff and say it works almost as good and it's healthier so it must be true. While it might have been less liver toxic in the long run, the constant spikes and drops in your hormones and the constant spikes in blood pressure are going to outweigh the benifits
 
That's fine. I think dose and duration is a big factor with anything either way... True I said prohormone should have said via oral administration.
 
Another thing too, it's completely irrelevant to the conversation I just wanted to throw it out there. Everyone mistakes all this stuff for prohormones. Msten, dmz, SD, epistane, trenavar, all of these things were sold labeled prohormones but none of them were prohormones, they're all active anabolic steroids. Hdrol was a steroid and a prohormone to tbol and I forget what others but almost all of them are actually steroids
 
EpiStrong said:
That's fine. I think dose and duration is a big factor with anything either way... True I said prohormone should have said via oral administration.
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At the end of the day none of this **** really matters because as much as I like to think I push for people to do these things in a healthyish manner, they rarely do.

It starts with a thread, usually asking which one is stronger, then the person asks if they can get away with a otcpct, then they buy a random designer steroid or prohormone from the cheapest place they can find and dissapear half way through there log and we either never hear from them again or they got some weird side effects that they eventually need help with and 90% of the time the problems are not related and just a coincidence.

That about sums up this form over the past year or 2
 
It's all good man. I don't have a point to prove except if you run superdrol you should be cautious of your dose because sides are fast and abundant... taken biweekly or daily lol.
 
Hey, while I'm in here lol. I never saw any mention of pct or anything like that. So if op or anyone needs to get themselves a serm or ai or whatever else your heart desires to do experiments with stop over at maresearchchems and my code:. smont
Will save you a couple bucks at checkout 15% off

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That link goes straight to the pct products
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
i recommend totally opposite of that .. i feel its wrong to start SD and then wait it out .. reason being .. soon as SD cycle is finished i wanna jump into PCT asap .. you will lose those gains so quick if you bridge into a milder cycle not too mention the sides sticking around

just my thought .. no right or wrong but what i recommend.
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I agree. I would allways put the most harsh stuff in the end.
 
KvanH said:
I agree. I would allways put the most harsh stuff in the end.
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Absolutely, I always thought it was foolish to run something that screws up your bloodwork at the beginning of a cycle just to spend the next 12 weeks in a unhealthy state. Plus when you "kickstart" now you kinda screwed up the rest of the cycle because your Kickstarter was the strongest part of your cycle, now you either spend the rest of the cycle on less gear or you gotta double down on the injectables to keep up
 
Something I feel like we neglect to look at on this forum is someone's tolerability to a drug, not just how you feel but how it effects your bloods. If someone said they plan to run 50-75mgvof anadrol for 8 weeks then most of the ppl on this form would be like no bro, bad idea. It's gonna fuk up your liver and your BP is gonna go through the roof blah blah blah, and for many ppl that is probably true.

But there are ppl who handle things differently. I can't handle npp or most 19nors for more then 4-5 weeks, even at a low dose with everything in place to prevent the problems. But, I can use anadrol or dbol for 6-8 weeks in moderate to fairly high doses and as long as I keep my BP in check I'm gtg, I'm not just talking about feeling good I'm talking about actual health markers stay in check. So my health risk on one of those is dramatically less then most other people. I've seen Jordan peters could run boatloads of tren and keep reasonable health markers. Someone else might use anadrol or tren and have everything in the gutter after 3-4 weeks.

This is why bloods are more important then just following along with all the cookie cutter ideas, plans and bro talk on the Internet.

From a medical field standpoint they give children anywhere from 100 to 300 mg of anadrol a day for certain medical conditions, sometimes that dose is taken for longer than 6 months straight. Guess what, they don't die from it or get irreversible damage in the large majority of cases, I say it like that because I'm sure there's at least one case where someone had irreversible damage.

But my point is, if someone on here said I'm gonna take a oral for 12 weeks we would tell them they're stupid and rightfully so, but if you're someone who's done your blood work in the past and you know how these things affect you then it might not be that stupid if you know that you stay fairly healthy on it because you tolerate the compound so well.
 
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