M-Drol Questions.............

[ltyson]

I am looking to do a cycle of M-Drol. I've done one cycle of Havoc about a year ago. Went very well except for some pretty bad low back pumps towards the final weeks.

I had a nice spreadsheet made up with the following info but I do not have enough posts to add images so here is an attempt at typing it out:

Supplements run throughout Cycle and PCT:
Protein
EFA's
Taurine
Anabolic Pump
Life Support

Cycle (4 weeks)
M-Drol
Day 1-3 10mg
Day 4-7 20mg
Week 2 through 4 20mg

PCT (4 weeks)
Toremifene Citrate
Day 1-3, 120mg
Day 4-7, 90mg
Week 2, 60mg
Week 3, 40mg
Week 4, 20mg

CEL PCT Assist
Week 1-4, 4 tabs per day

Prime
Week 1-8, 6-9 tabs per day

Rebound XT
Week 1, 3 tabs per day
Week 2, 2 tabs per day
Week 3, 1 tab per day

Questions:
Should I go 4 weeks with M-Drol? Some say gains fall off quickly after week 3.

If I feel good at the start of week 3 should I maybe go to 30mg instead?

For PCT does my dosage look right for the Torem?

Since I have both PCT Assist and Torem I am thinking I do not need the Rebound XT. Do you agree or disagree?

Any other things you would add or change?

Thanks,
Ltyson

 

[bryan101b]

I am looking to do a cycle of M-Drol. I've done one cycle of Havoc about a year ago. Went very well except for some pretty bad low back pumps towards the final weeks.

I had a nice spreadsheet made up with the following info but I do not have enough posts to add images so here is an attempt at typing it out:

Supplements run throughout Cycle and PCT:
Protein
EFA's
Taurine
Anabolic Pump
Life Support

Cycle (4 weeks)
M-Drol
Day 1-3 10mg
Day 4-7 20mg
Week 2 through 4 20mg

PCT (4 weeks)
Toremifene Citrate
Day 1-3, 120mg
Day 4-7, 90mg
Week 2, 60mg
Week 3, 40mg
Week 4, 20mg

CEL PCT Assist
Week 1-4, 4 tabs per day

Prime
Week 1-8, 6-9 tabs per day

Rebound XT
Week 1, 3 tabs per day
Week 2, 2 tabs per day
Week 3, 1 tab per day

Questions:
Should I go 4 weeks with M-Drol? Some say gains fall off quickly after week 3.

If I feel good at the start of week 3 should I maybe go to 30mg instead?

For PCT does my dosage look right for the Torem?

Since I have both PCT Assist and Torem I am thinking I do not need the Rebound XT. Do you agree or disagree?

Any other things you would add or change?

Thanks,
Ltyson

you cycle looks great, looks to be very planned out and researched. I would say, after going 20mg at the end of week two, bump it to 30mg. 20mg pre workout, and the other 10mg either 6hrs before workout, or 6hrs after your workout, depending on your workout schedule. and go with the 30mg for a 4rth week.

for the pct as far as the rebound xt goes, you dont need an ai when your first starting pct due to your hpta not making any test to aromatize. So I would add it weeks 3-6 to prevent new test from aromatizing into E. that should be good.

 

[ibanezman08]

if it's your first time on m-drol, i would stick with what you have and make the descision to go on to 30mg on the last week.

actually, i lost 4 lbs in the first couple days and got weaker and strength gains kicked in A LITTLE on the thrid week. on the forth week, my gains EXPLODED. so i didn't start experiencing gains until the forth week.

once you have more experience, you can run 30mg for the whole 4 weeks but that is a bit more risky.

i agree that you don't need rebound xt.

one more thing, if you're concerned about back pumps, you'll get them MUCH worse on m-drol than epi. and animal pump will def. not be helping!!! i suggest staying away from nitric oxide boosters while on. they can increase blood pressure and believe me, you don't need that as m-drol will cause your BP to shoot up like crazy. at least it did for me. so i'd say, drop the animal pump.

also, don't know what life support is but it'd better have hawthorne berry extract in there cuz i'd say you need it. preload hawthorne berry extract 2-4 weeks prior to running m-drol.

and i'm sure life support supports the liver. at least i think it should.

one more thing...
m-drol killed my libido from 100% to like 55% so that's BAD. i heard supplementing with DHEA helps but it's supposed to make back pumps worse.

anyway, good luck bud.

 

[ltyson]

you cycle looks great, looks to be very planned out and researched. I would say, after going 20mg at the end of week two, bump it to 30mg. 20mg pre workout, and the other 10mg either 6hrs before workout, or 6hrs after your workout, depending on your workout schedule. and go with the 30mg for a 4rth week.

for the pct as far as the rebound xt goes, you dont need an ai when your first starting pct due to your hpta not making any test to aromatize. So I would add it weeks 3-6 to prevent new test from aromatizing into E. that should be good.

Thanks for the input. I will see how things progress through weeks 1 and 2 and if all is well bump to 30mg on week 3 and 4. I will also hold off on the Rebound XT.

Keep the advice coming as I will probably start 4 weeks from now so I have time to adjust anything as I finalize my plans.

Thanks,
Ltyson

 

[ltyson]

if it's your first time on m-drol, i would stick with what you have and make the descision to go on to 30mg on the last week.

actually, i lost 4 lbs in the first couple days and got weaker and strength gains kicked in A LITTLE on the thrid week. on the forth week, my gains EXPLODED. so i didn't start experiencing gains until the forth week.

once you have more experience, you can run 30mg for the whole 4 weeks but that is a bit more risky.

i agree that you don't need rebound xt.

one more thing, if you're concerned about back pumps, you'll get them MUCH worse on m-drol than epi. and animal pump will def. not be helping!!! i suggest staying away from nitric oxide boosters while on. they can increase blood pressure and believe me, you don't need that as m-drol will cause your BP to shoot up like crazy. at least it did for me. so i'd say, drop the animal pump.

also, don't know what life support is but it'd better have hawthorne berry extract in there cuz i'd say you need it. preload hawthorne berry extract 2-4 weeks prior to running m-drol.

and i'm sure life support supports the liver. at least i think it should.

one more thing...
m-drol killed my libido from 100% to like 55% so that's BAD. i heard supplementing with DHEA helps but it's supposed to make back pumps worse.

anyway, good luck bud.

Thank you. It will be my first time for M-Drol so I will error on the side of too little rather than too much. If I feel things are going well after week 1 or 2 then like you mentioned look at 30 mg at week 4 or maybe in week 3, but again I think less is better so will only bump up if things are going well. The info on your timing as to when you started to see gains was excellent.

Just to clarify, I will use USP Labs Anabolic Pump not Animal Pump. I agree with your thought about not taking anything that will increase my potential for the back pumps.

Anabolic Innovations Life Support is a product I have used in the past and I have been very happy with it. It contains Hawthorn Berry along with several other key nutrients for support. I will pre-load this.

Not so concerned with the libido drop just as long as it comes back afterwords :thumbsup:.

Thanks for all the help. Looking to start in a couple weeks so keep the feedback coming.

Ltyson

 

[P4D2A022]

if it's your first time on m-drol, i would stick with what you have and make the descision to go on to 30mg on the last week.

actually, i lost 4 lbs in the first couple days and got weaker and strength gains kicked in A LITTLE on the thrid week. on the forth week, my gains EXPLODED. so i didn't start experiencing gains until the forth week.

once you have more experience, you can run 30mg for the whole 4 weeks but that is a bit more risky.

i agree that you don't need rebound xt.

one more thing, if you're concerned about back pumps, you'll get them MUCH worse on m-drol than epi. and animal pump will def. not be helping!!! i suggest staying away from nitric oxide boosters while on. they can increase blood pressure and believe me, you don't need that as m-drol will cause your BP to shoot up like crazy. at least it did for me. so i'd say, drop the animal pump.

also, don't know what life support is but it'd better have hawthorne berry extract in there cuz i'd say you need it. preload hawthorne berry extract 2-4 weeks prior to running m-drol.

and i'm sure life support supports the liver. at least i think it should.

one more thing...
m-drol killed my libido from 100% to like 55% so that's BAD. i heard supplementing with DHEA helps but it's supposed to make back pumps worse.

anyway, good luck bud.

4th week huh?? and i thought i responded late! 18 days or so was when i noticed strength gains.. idk how some ppl respond so fast!