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M-Drol pulse - What to do!

mark831

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Hi all,

Run several cycles before of origional halo, H-drol and epi.....Liked them all (Except epi made me shed - even on a pulse!)

Have ordered M-drol, 2 x PCS, cycle support and lean extreme.
Im considering a 4 week pulse of the m-drol of :

3 x per week (Sun, Tues, Fri) 10mg, 20mg,20 mg, 20mg. ( 4 weeks should be enough for me, see how i feel - Want to keep the sides as low as poss)

Now have been doing as much research as I can and know about the delayed gyno issues, which largely relate to the use of ATD in PCT. I wont be using this but will use a serm - nolva, pcs, LXT and Diesel Test Hardcore for PCT.

Am I ok to go with PCS on off days? I know Pulsing protocol states an AI on off days is good but with all the horror stories of delayed gyno on straight through cycles I cant see that this would be the way to go??....I have ATD, but not 6oxo (Out of stock)

Finally would you bother with an AI after the 4 weeks of serm? (6oxo) taper up and then down?? Or just go with the serm tapered down for a couple of weeks extra?

Every post I read seems to say something different!!

Never had gyno before and not looking to start.......or should I just hit up the h-drol instead for a 5 weeker straight through? Done h-drol twice before and although I got good gains, the 2nd cycle was a lot less! Thinking the m-drol woould be a good change.

Any opinions greatly received!!
 
mark831 said:
Hi all,

Run several cycles before of origional halo, H-drol and epi.....Liked them all (Except epi made me shed - even on a pulse!)

Have ordered M-drol, 2 x PCS, cycle support and lean extreme.
Im considering a 4 week pulse of the m-drol of :

3 x per week (Sun, Tues, Fri) 10mg, 20mg,20 mg, 20mg. ( 4 weeks should be enough for me, see how i feel - Want to keep the sides as low as poss)

Now have been doing as much research as I can and know about the delayed gyno issues, which largely relate to the use of ATD in PCT. I wont be using this but will use a serm - nolva, pcs, LXT and Diesel Test Hardcore for PCT.

Am I ok to go with PCS on off days? I know Pulsing protocol states an AI on off days is good but with all the horror stories of delayed gyno on straight through cycles I cant see that this would be the way to go??....I have ATD, but not 6oxo (Out of stock)

Finally would you bother with an AI after the 4 weeks of serm? (6oxo) taper up and then down?? Or just go with the serm tapered down for a couple of weeks extra?

Every post I read seems to say something different!!

Never had gyno before and not looking to start.......or should I just hit up the h-drol instead for a 5 weeker straight through? Done h-drol twice before and although I got good gains, the 2nd cycle was a lot less! Thinking the m-drol woould be a good change.

Any opinions greatly received!!
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I'm interested in seeing what an M-drol pulse will do:clap2:


I would run PCS on off days....I would make sure you also run cycle support(or something similar)to help out with BP,Liver.
And poss. a joint support. Pre load cycle support for at least a week(maybe 2).

Running a pulse your side should be less...good that you have the serm on hand....

Might want to check out the thread "OTC PCT guide" if you haven't already.

Also catch up with the CEL forum. I'm sure they will be more than helpful answering any question

NOTE: I always say to talk to a rep because I honestly believe that only they will know there products the best.
JUST MY MOTH.. F..KIN OPINION THOUGH:woohoo:


good luck there buddy:thumbsup:
 
Thanks for the support....

Any others that can help out???

Whats the thoghts of an AI on off days while pulsing?

Would you avoid the AI totally in PCt or run it after the nolva?
 
How long has it been since your last cycle? That may play a big part in what you may need.
 
dg806 said:
How long has it been since your last cycle? That may play a big part in what you may need.
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My last cycle was about 5 months ago. Happy to run the PCS on off days and as part of PCT (I have 2 bottles to hand!) Just need to decide if i should run an AI as part of PCT (After the 4 weeks of the serm) as everyone who has got rebound gyno appears to have run ATD. Apparently this is to do with M-drol shutting you down bad, then the atd suppressing even more estro and it then bouncing back hard after PCT? Best to go no atd then?

im leaning towards doing a further run of h-drol in a months time and then possibly the mdrol middle of 2009.......that will give me more time to reserach even more the m-drol, although im desperate to give it a go now!!
 
One of the best cycles I ran was an Mdrol pulse, I used trib (blue up) on off days and saved pct for post cycle, I used torem inverse to Inhibit E worked great, the only sides I was getting were bad mid afternoon lethargy, there was a thread about pulsing resluts that would be a good read, I posted in there.. Ill see if i can find a link to it
 
mark831 said:
My last cycle was about 5 months ago. Happy to run the PCS on off days and as part of PCT (I have 2 bottles to hand!) Just need to decide if i should run an AI as part of PCT (After the 4 weeks of the serm) as everyone who has got rebound gyno appears to have run ATD. Apparently this is to do with M-drol shutting you down bad, then the atd suppressing even more estro and it then bouncing back hard after PCT? Best to go no atd then?

im leaning towards doing a further run of h-drol in a months time and then possibly the mdrol middle of 2009.......that will give me more time to reserach even more the m-drol, although im desperate to give it a go now!!
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If you are running a 4 week SERM pct start a AI in the 3rd week of pct and taper the dose down each week.:)
 
You should start at 20mgs and up it from there! You can run it alot higher than a regular cycle. i love pulsing the super!
 
hman85 said:
You should start at 20mgs and up it from there! You can run it alot higher than a regular cycle. i love pulsing the super!
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Can you elaborate on your dosage recommendation? I pulsed MDrol and to be honest DO NOT GO ABOVE 20 MGs this stuff is VERY potent and can really screw up your liver.

Take what you want from what I write, but this was my experience:

I started my pulse at 6' 210 and 12.7% bf and when I pulsed 3x a week for 4.5 weeks (stopped after 1st day of last week) I miscounted my pills and ended up doing one week (week 3) at 30 mgs and then one week (week 4 and day 1 of week 5) at 40 mgs (my mistake - I know - I all ready stated this in my post regarding my run).

I experienced adverse reactions. Liver functions started nose diving, pale stools etc. Had a two incidents of extreme tightness in chest, shallow breath and cold sweats plus chest pains in week 5. I went back and recounted my pills and realized I had miscounted and was basically overdosing. I stopped on that Monday. I also experienced EXTREME LETHARGY - actually took two sick days from the office to just sleep. I ended up at 223ish, I didn't get a chance to get my bf tested. I experience complete shutdown by week 4 (boys were gone, and I am huge so that was scary), lost my libido and didn't get it back till about the 2nd week of my PCT.

I didn't use a serm in my pct, been months since the pulse and I got blood work pre and post (pct) and all is back to normal. I used 6-oxo extreme, and then lean extreme 15 days in. I tapered the 6-oxo extreme started at 10 pills for 7 days, 9 pills for 3 days, 8 pills for 3 days, 7@3, 6@3, 5@3, 4@3, 3@3, 2@3, 1@3 and done. I have liqui nolva and clomid on hand JUST in case.

Just don't take a chance at loading up on 30-40 mgs with this stuff you will regret it.

My triglycerides did tick up 5 points after all was said and done.

More is not better.

- The pros of my pulse were +15lbs (I started at 207 and ended up at 222)
- I set PRs on all my lifts
- The "ON" feeling was amazing

I did lose a lot of the weight, a lot of it is water.

I'm now at 6' 208 and 7.8% bf after a lean hard summer; got to love fall I can finally drink some beer. :woohoo:

Last year I was 6' 197 and 8.2% bf so all in all I'm up 11lbs lean mass in one year. I don't know how much of that I can thank from Mdrol.

So do what you want, if I ever do this again, I'm sticking with 10mgs 3x a week.

That is a BIG BIG BIG IF...
 
True do what you want. I enjoyed going up to 40 and had no adverse sides, except back pumps, and lethargy. Blood work 2 months later was fine. I believe that the whole toxicity thing is a little overexaggerated. If you had adverse effects like that then by all means health first.I just ran it at 20 for a couple weeks till gains stopped then upped it 10mgs and so on. just giving you my experience:thumbsup:
 
sonny4753 said:
Can you elaborate on your dosage recommendation? I pulsed MDrol and to be honest DO NOT GO ABOVE 20 MGs this stuff is VERY potent and can really screw up your liver.

Take what you want from what I write, but this was my experience:

I started my pulse at 6' 210 and 12.7% bf and when I pulsed 3x a week for 4.5 weeks (stopped after 1st day of last week) I miscounted my pills and ended up doing one week (week 3) at 30 mgs and then one week (week 4 and day 1 of week 5) at 40 mgs (my mistake - I know - I all ready stated this in my post regarding my run).

I experienced adverse reactions. Liver functions started nose diving, pale stools etc. Had a two incidents of extreme tightness in chest, shallow breath and cold sweats plus chest pains in week 5. I went back and recounted my pills and realized I had miscounted and was basically overdosing. I stopped on that Monday. I also experienced EXTREME LETHARGY - actually took two sick days from the office to just sleep. I ended up at 223ish, I didn't get a chance to get my bf tested. I experience complete shutdown by week 4 (boys were gone, and I am huge so that was scary), lost my libido and didn't get it back till about the 2nd week of my PCT.

I didn't use a serm in my pct, been months since the pulse and I got blood work pre and post (pct) and all is back to normal. I used 6-oxo extreme, and then lean extreme 15 days in. I tapered the 6-oxo extreme started at 10 pills for 7 days, 9 pills for 3 days, 8 pills for 3 days, 7@3, 6@3, 5@3, 4@3, 3@3, 2@3, 1@3 and done. I have liqui nolva and clomid on hand JUST in case.

Just don't take a chance at loading up on 30-40 mgs with this stuff you will regret it.

My triglycerides did tick up 5 points after all was said and done.

More is not better.

- The pros of my pulse were +15lbs (I started at 207 and ended up at 222)
- I set PRs on all my lifts
- The "ON" feeling was amazing

I did lose a lot of the weight, a lot of it is water.

I'm now at 6' 208 and 7.8% bf after a lean hard summer; got to love fall I can finally drink some beer. :woohoo:

Last year I was 6' 197 and 8.2% bf so all in all I'm up 11lbs lean mass in one year. I don't know how much of that I can thank from Mdrol.

So do what you want, if I ever do this again, I'm sticking with 10mgs 3x a week.

That is a BIG BIG BIG IF...
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Are you positive that these symptoms were entirely related to the liver....have you had a history of liver problems....I can't recall ever seeing anyone with this bad a problem on 30 mgs. of M-drol/sdrol for a week(specially a pulse cycle) using PROPER SUPPORT SUPPS. Were you drinking alcohol at all?:think:
 
partyman43 said:
Are you positive that these symptoms were entirely related to the liver....have you had a history of liver problems....I can't recall ever seeing anyone with this bad a problem on 30 mgs. of M-drol/sdrol for a week(specially a pulse cycle) using PROPER SUPPORT SUPPS. Were you drinking alcohol at all?:think:
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good point!
 
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