M-Drol Cycle Update - ((Day 24 of 28))

Rabidpanda25

Rabidpanda25

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Hey Guys,


Ok, so after a rough start to the cycle, things finally started picking up. I'm doing a cycle of M-drol 10/20/20/20. Calories were ramped up to about 3300 calories currently with about 250-300 grams of protein daily.

A quick recap. Week 1 saw no change in weight or strength. Starting week 2, increased complex carbs and began reducing work out intensity. At end of week 2 only a mild increase in strength and very little in the way of weight gain. However, starting at around day 18 I began to notice a substantial increase in strength and lean body mass. At day 18 I was maybe up 4 or 5 pounds total, and most of that was simply food in my stomach and some water in the muscles after loading up on carbs.

After day 18, I began putting on about 1/2 to 1 pound per day pretty steadily. Strength gains followed with the weight gain. Recovery time was pretty much cut in half. I've gained more in the past week than in the first 18 days put together. So altogether I'm up roughly 10-11 pounds and strength is up about 10-20% on all lifts. It helped also that I cut down from 4 training days to 3 and also threw in an extra recovery day. Looking in the mirror, and through my pictures during various days of the cycle, the gains have become very impressive.

I was a little concerned that this cycle might be a bust, but for whatever reason, it took nearly three weeks before I saw the any dramatic gains. I should be able to exceed my goal of 12 pounds, if not quite a bit more in the next 4 days. After day 28, PCT includes 3 and a half weeks of Torem. I'm pleased with the gains, and I'm looking forward to see how much of the weight I can get to stick.
 
I start my Mdrol tomorrow, did you notice any sides doing your 10/20/20/20? I was thinking 10/20/20 as well. I may go up to 4 weeks, iam not sure yet. I did a cycle of havoc and Hdrol and gained about 15 lbs. Iam hoping that Mdrol gives me at least 10lbs. Did you do the first 10 mg for 7 days or did you shorten that? Iam thinking of doing 10 for 4 days and bumping up to 20mg. Iam 200 lbs right now. I may go to 30 on my thrid week but I do not want the sides associated with Mdrol..
 
spshond said:
I start my Mdrol tomorrow, did you notice any sides doing your 10/20/20/20? I was thinking 10/20/20 as well. I may go up to 4 weeks, iam not sure yet. I did a cycle of havoc and Hdrol and gained about 15 lbs. Iam hoping that Mdrol gives me at least 10lbs. Did you do the first 10 mg for 7 days or did you shorten that? Iam thinking of doing 10 for 4 days and bumping up to 20mg. Iam 200 lbs right now. I may go to 30 on my thrid week but I do not want the sides associated with Mdrol..
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I just finished a 10/20/20 of m-drol. It was my favorite run so far. I was going to move up to 30 on the last week but my gains kept coming at 20. I only gained about 6lbs but Ive kept them so far. No sides except lethargy and minimal shutdown with this cycle. Good luck.
 
rhodesman said:
I just finished a 10/20/20 of m-drol. It was my favorite run so far. I was going to move up to 30 on the last week but my gains kept coming at 20. I only gained about 6lbs but Ive kept them so far. No sides except lethargy and minimal shutdown with this cycle. Good luck.
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What are you guys using for a test booster and estrogen rebound? I will be using Diesel Test Hardcore
 
spshond said:
I start my Mdrol tomorrow, did you notice any sides doing your 10/20/20/20? I was thinking 10/20/20 as well. I may go up to 4 weeks, iam not sure yet. I did a cycle of havoc and Hdrol and gained about 15 lbs. Iam hoping that Mdrol gives me at least 10lbs. Did you do the first 10 mg for 7 days or did you shorten that? Iam thinking of doing 10 for 4 days and bumping up to 20mg. Iam 200 lbs right now. I may go to 30 on my thrid week but I do not want the sides associated with Mdrol..
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The sides are far worse than anything I've done in the past. I went 10 the first full week before upping to 20. Then lethargy and cramps started picking up around day 10. However, the sides have actually calmed down considerably from when I first started experiencing them. If I had to do it again, I'd stick with 10 mg for the first 10 to 14 days. I don't think 20mg really helped to ramp up the effect of M-drol but it did increase the sides. I'm glad I planned for four weeks, because the great majority of my gains are coming from this week. This one week is the difference between having a +8 pound cycle and a +14 pound cycle.
 
Rabidpanda25 said:
The sides are far worse than anything I've done in the past. I went 10 the first full week before upping to 20. Then lethargy and cramps started picking up around day 10. However, the sides have actually calmed down considerably from when I first started experiencing them. If I had to do it again, I'd stick with 10 mg for the first 10 to 14 days. I don't think 20mg really helped to ramp up the effect of M-drol but it did increase the sides. I'm glad I planned for four weeks, because the great majority of my gains are coming from this week. This one week is the difference between having a +8 pound cycle and a +14 pound cycle.
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Wow I thought the lbs would come a bit faster on Mdrol at earlier stages of the cycle compared to havoc and hdrol. Yeah then I will definitely stay at 20 at the most and may increase to 4 week cycle. Did you eat lean throughtout the cycle, keeping the calories up but maintaining a strict fat, protein and carb plan. I want to gain weight but loose some inches around the waist. Gain Lean Body Mass. I plan on eating alot but instead of hamburgers, I will eat turkey burgers. eat plenty of complex carbs. How did you keep your calories up?
 
spshond said:
Wow I thought the lbs would come a bit faster on Mdrol at earlier stages of the cycle compared to havoc and hdrol. Yeah then I will definitely stay at 20 at the most and may increase to 4 week cycle. Did you eat lean throughtout the cycle, keeping the calories up but maintaining a strict fat, protein and carb plan. I want to gain weight but loose some inches around the waist. Gain Lean Body Mass. I plan on eating alot but instead of hamburgers, I will eat turkey burgers. eat plenty of complex carbs. How did you keep your calories up?
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The first week or so I went pretty light on the calories, but still quite a bit above maintenance. It wasn't until week 2 that I really began upping my carb intake, and adding about 400 calories more per day. I'm still astounded as to how many calories you have to eat to keep from losing fat. And, it may even be that during the first 2 weeks, I was gaining muscle and losing fat. But I kept ramping up my calories higher and higher, tons and tons of complex carbs. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm actually somewhere in the 4000 calorie mark right now. And I'd eat more if I could, but I literally feel like I can hardly fit anymore food in me.

My diet looks roughly like this:

Morning:

Bowl of Whole Grain Cereal w/ 2% Milk
2 Scrambled Eggs
Protein Shake (45g) with 2 scoops Oats & Natural Peanut Butter
Yogurt
Banana

Afternoon:

Tuna Sandwich on wheat (1.5 cans)
Fruit Juice
Baked Potato
Protein Bar
1/4 - 1/2 lb. Whole Chicken (Baked or Fried)

Evening:

Protein Shake (45g) with 2 scoops Oats & Natural Peanut Butter
Dinner (Usually with white or brown rice)
Steamed Vegetables (Broccoli or Corn)
3 Hardboiled Eggs
2 Glasses of Milk w/ Cookies

3 AM:

Half Tuna Fish Sandwich w/ Glass of Milk
or
Bowl of Whole Grain Cereal w/ 2% Milk (before work out days)


That's pretty much it. Stocked up on a lot of basic foods (Got 60 cans of tuna on sale, plenty of chicken, buy 36 eggs a week, drink 1/2 gallon of milk a day). I work out Mid mornings, so on Work out days, I eat two bowls of cereal before I hit the weights. I also usually wake up several times a night, so I fit a meal in right in the middle of it. I'm not a really big guy, so I'm surprised I can eat this much without gaining a whole lot of fat. During my natural bulking phase, I usually eat about 1000 calories less than this and about 100 grams of protein less. And thanks to the advice from some of the board members a few weeks ago, increasing my complex carb intake really has helped with my gains, energy, and muscle fullness.
 
Rabidpanda25 said:
The first week or so I went pretty light on the calories, but still quite a bit above maintenance. It wasn't until week 2 that I really began upping my carb intake, and adding about 400 calories more per day. I'm still astounded as to how many calories you have to eat to keep from losing fat. And, it may even be that during the first 2 weeks, I was gaining muscle and losing fat. But I kept ramping up my calories higher and higher, tons and tons of complex carbs. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm actually somewhere in the 4000 calorie mark right now. And I'd eat more if I could, but I literally feel like I can hardly fit anymore food in me.

My diet looks roughly like this:

Morning:

Bowl of Whole Grain Cereal w/ 2% Milk
2 Scrambled Eggs
Protein Shake (45g) with 2 scoops Oats & Natural Peanut Butter
Yogurt
Banana

Afternoon:

Tuna Sandwich on wheat (1.5 cans)
Fruit Juice
Baked Potato
Protein Bar
1/4 - 1/2 lb. Whole Chicken (Baked or Fried)

Evening:

Protein Shake (45g) with 2 scoops Oats & Natural Peanut Butter
Dinner (Usually with white or brown rice)
Steamed Vegetables (Broccoli or Corn)
3 Hardboiled Eggs
2 Glasses of Milk w/ Cookies

3 AM:

Half Tuna Fish Sandwich w/ Glass of Milk
or
Bowl of Whole Grain Cereal w/ 2% Milk (before work out days)


That's pretty much it. Stocked up on a lot of basic foods (Got 60 cans of tuna on sale, plenty of chicken, buy 36 eggs a week, drink 1/2 gallon of milk a day). I work out Mid mornings, so on Work out days, I eat two bowls of cereal before I hit the weights. I also usually wake up several times a night, so I fit a meal in right in the middle of it. I'm not a really big guy, so I'm surprised I can eat this much without gaining a whole lot of fat. During my natural bulking phase, I usually eat about 1000 calories less than this and about 100 grams of protein less. And thanks to the advice from some of the board members a few weeks ago, increasing my complex carb intake really has helped with my gains, energy, and muscle fullness.
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I will probably eat plenty of Corn Flakes for my complex carbs. I want to be able to eat a cereal with very minimal sugars, mostly complex carbs. My goal is to keep the sugars to a minimal. Eat plenty of eggs in the mornings, plenty of tuna, and plenty of salmon from costco. What are you taking for your Post Cycle:

I will be on:
SERM - Torem
Test - Diesel Test Hardcore
AI - I have not thought about it, maybe 6-OXO
Cortisol - Do Not know yet, Lean extreme maybe
 
^^ corn flakes? That is not a very nutrient dense food. 1 bowl of corn flakes has 100 calories, 200 MG SODIUM!, and has to be fortified with various vitamins and minerals since they are removed during processing. I'm not a nutritionist, nor a professional bodybuilder, however, from my limited experience, I wouldn't recommend them nor would I eat them.

Instead, Try oats. Grind up some whole flax seeds in a coffee grinder and add protein powder. Raisins woudl be great for carbs early in the morning as well. The oats and flax seeds combined will give you 10+ grams of fiber and TONS of vitams and minerals your body craves when building muscle. The flax seeds will provide you with good fats, Omega 3s, that will help your lipid profile.
Leave the corn flakes on the shelf where they belong.
 
edwards said:
^^ corn flakes? That is not a very nutrient dense food. 1 bowl of corn flakes has 100 calories, 200 MG SODIUM!, and has to be fortified with various vitamins and minerals since they are removed during processing. I'm not a nutritionist, nor a professional bodybuilder, however, from my limited experience, I wouldn't recommend them nor would I eat them.

Instead, Try oats. Grind up some whole flax seeds in a coffee grinder and add protein powder. Raisins woudl be great for carbs early in the morning as well. The oats and flax seeds combined will give you 10+ grams of fiber and TONS of vitams and minerals your body craves when building muscle. The flax seeds will provide you with good fats, Omega 3s, that will help your lipid profile.
Leave the corn flakes on the shelf where they belong.
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corn flakes are to fix my crunch crase, oats, will definitely be on the plan. for vitamins and minerals i will be on a multi - orange triad as well. flax seed and fish oil.
 
spshond said:
...Eat plenty of eggs in the mornings, ...
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just a note, i read in men's health that eggs in the morning can cause a suppression in appetite over the whole day. Just something to remember for someone like me who has to force feed myself every day. i get so frustrated, i cant eat as much as i should.

it might also be good to remember during cutting!
 
man, eat eggs in a shake....

i mix 3 eggs whites 2 whole egg...200ml milk and 1/2 of a apple (apple or other fruits....strawberry is my favorite)

(i mix on a blender...)
 
sheat is sh1t??? (sorry im brasilian)(z)

hehehe its good man....i drink every mornning..... and post workout eggs with skim milk when i "clean up" my body hehheh(without supple ....all natural....) 1 month a year (setember)
 
Rabidpanda25 said:
Hey Guys,


Ok, so after a rough start to the cycle, things finally started picking up. I'm doing a cycle of M-drol 10/20/20/20. Calories were ramped up to about 3300 calories currently with about 250-300 grams of protein daily.

A quick recap. Week 1 saw no change in weight or strength. Starting week 2, increased complex carbs and began reducing work out intensity. At end of week 2 only a mild increase in strength and very little in the way of weight gain. However, starting at around day 18 I began to notice a substantial increase in strength and lean body mass. At day 18 I was maybe up 4 or 5 pounds total, and most of that was simply food in my stomach and some water in the muscles after loading up on carbs.

After day 18, I began putting on about 1/2 to 1 pound per day pretty steadily. Strength gains followed with the weight gain. Recovery time was pretty much cut in half. I've gained more in the past week than in the first 18 days put together. So altogether I'm up roughly 10-11 pounds and strength is up about 10-20% on all lifts. It helped also that I cut down from 4 training days to 3 and also threw in an extra recovery day. Looking in the mirror, and through my pictures during various days of the cycle, the gains have become very impressive.

I was a little concerned that this cycle might be a bust, but for whatever reason, it took nearly three weeks before I saw the any dramatic gains. I should be able to exceed my goal of 12 pounds, if not quite a bit more in the next 4 days. After day 28, PCT includes 3 and a half weeks of Torem. I'm pleased with the gains, and I'm looking forward to see how much of the weight I can get to stick.
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EXACT thing with me bro! i dont notice anything really til day 16-18, strength wise i mean. wish it wasnt like this, but oh well. it still works!
 
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