not really with gh or gh peps. some will retain water in hands and feet at first
IGF-1LR3 at lower doses 20-100mcg you get good pump, increase appetite without weight gain, leaning out effect, hardening effect, more vascular. As the IGF-1LR3 dose is raised over 100mcg though you can get tired feeling, super pumped cramping like feeling, head aches and really hungry or eating every 2 hours.
I did 150mcg a few times and got head aches, tiredness and general feeling like crap. But thats at a super high dose.
I think of dose of 50mcg/ed for 20 days (which is just one 1 mg vial) is where its at. And with some of this stuff more is not better.