low test levels clomid reboot

[king1033]

its in cycle info

 

[Beau]

:thumbsup: - Nice to read this.

I think Clomid's primary effectiveness is that it initially is selective to the pituitaty which causes the pituitary to secrete higher levels of FSH and LH.

Tamoxifen is slower to act in increaing LH because it is initially selective to estrogen-receptors in breast, bone, and liver tissue.

I have discovered that other compounds that act to stimulate LH make recovery easy as well. Insulin even at low dose stimulates LH. I know people shy away from it but they seem willing to use (actually abuse) HCG which IMHO could have long-term consequences.

My recovery is quick w/ Clomid PCT...it is even quicker if I use insulin on cycle BUT it is super quick if I am using CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 to elevate my GH levels.

IGF-1 is an expensive but effective way to speed recovery as well.

My point is that running CJC-1295/GHRP-6 on cycle (which also will elevate IGF-1) will help recovery and maybe prevent the sorts of long-term problems guys seem to have post-cycle.

dat,

Just a thought (and maybe not a good one - we'll see), for the purposes we are discussing here - might products such as P-slin or Anabolic Pump affect a similar reaction as one would have running insulin on cycle? Is it "as easy" as that, or am I on thw wrong track?

 

[datBtrue]

dat,

Just a thought (and maybe not a good one - we'll see), for the purposes we are discussing here - might products such as P-slin or Anabolic Pump affect a similar reaction as one would have running insulin on cycle? Is it "as easy" as that, or am I on thw wrong track?

I would call those products "glucose disposal agents". For me AP was not very effective. I much prefer plain old cheap vanadyl sulfate as a GDA.

I'm not disparaging those products but they do not compare to external administration of the hormone insulin.

I don't want to encourage insulin use but the most effective growth cycle involves GH run for a while pre-cycle with a prime (i.e. dieting down to single % BF), followed by a cycle of testosterone, an oral androgen mid-cycle, a greatly increased dose of GH & insulin (real insulin ) administered together w/ T3 used properly.

Now that is the ideal model IMHO for growth.

Nothing replaces testosterone. I have found a prohormone that replaces DBol. CJC-1296/GHRP-6 will get GH levels up as effectively as mid-dose GH administration so that is an alternative. T3 is an option and isn't specifically needed.

But like testosterone there is no replacement for insulin.

 

[king1033]

I don't want to encourage insulin use but the most effective growth cycle involves GH run for a while pre-cycle with a prime (i.e. dieting down to single % BF), followed by a cycle of testosterone, an oral androgen mid-cycle, a greatly increased dose of GH & insulin (real insulin ) administered together w/ T3 used properly.
Now that is the ideal model IMHO for growth.

this is the cycle im running now except for the insulin and instead of t3 im using t4. and mid cycle ill be using tren for 4-6 weeks most likly 4 i wanna keep things simple.