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Low test level range, suggestions?

Leftyz

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I'm 36, good shape, have not done any cycle other than Hdrol about a year and a half ago. Was taking propecia for about 5 years though and discontinued use of that about 5 months ago as maybe that was the culprit.
On a range the doctor report says normal range is 348-1147 and I'm at 495.
Only concern is my libido is not up to par like it should be.
He says I'm too young and test is too high to consider testosterone.
Any ideas or suggestions?
 
That's a tough one. You are definitely not a candidate for trt with those levels. Maybe try a natty test booster or DAA (however, I'm not sure if DAA would help that much since you are pretty "normal" to begin with). Might want to check out BLR Viron.

If you're having problems with ED, see if your doc can prescribe you cialis or viagra
 
Leftyz said:
Does Clomid raise testosterone? And if so, is it only temporary and while on it?
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I'm currently on Clomid for trt (prescribed by my urologist). I'm 31 and my levels before starting trt were 190-250 (tested 3 times). Since being on Clomid at 50mg EOD I'm up between 500-700. I'm using clomid so I maintain fertility. When my wife and I have kids, I'll be switched to test.

Not sure how effective clomid is when your levels are normal to begin with
 
Leftyz said:
I'm 36, good shape, have not done any cycle other than Hdrol about a year and a half ago. Was taking propecia for about 5 years though and discontinued use of that about 5 months ago as maybe that was the culprit.
On a range the doctor report says normal range is 348-1147 and I'm at 495.
Only concern is my libido is not up to par like it should be.
He says I'm too young and test is too high to consider testosterone.
Any ideas or suggestions?
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First off, you can't tell anything with one total test lab. You need a series of them and you also need to several other hormone tests that I could list if you were truly interested. Second, 495 is not low at all- what time of day did you take the test?

Libido is very tricky and involves many factors, of which testosterone is one, but only one. Hell, many people on TRT complain about libido not being great.
 
I took the test probably 10ish. My doc said he'd like for me to take one early morning where I fasted for 10 hours. Didn't know time or anything would really make a difference.

A side note, I'm mostly concerned cause of libido, is Visalis for libido or just simply getting it up like Viagara is?
 
kisaj said:
First off, you can't tell anything with one total test lab. You need a series of them and you also need to several other hormone tests that I could list if you were truly interested. Second, 495 is not low at all- what time of day did you take the test?

Libido is very tricky and involves many factors, of which testosterone is one, but only one. Hell, many people on TRT complain about libido not being great.
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^^ this. 10 am is pretty late. I have to get mine before 9 am or they won't count. And like I said, I had to get tested 3 times before starting. Finally, even on TRT I have libido issues
 
Ever trial Cialis? I've never done any of those but if libido is my only issue wonder if that's worth a try. Viagara is just to PPP wood I think, is Cialis the same or for libido?
 
Leftyz said:
I'm 36, good shape, have not done any cycle other than Hdrol about a year and a half ago. Was taking propecia for about 5 years though and discontinued use of that about 5 months ago as maybe that was the culprit. On a range the doctor report says normal range is 348-1147 and I'm at 495. Only concern is my libido is not up to par like it should be. He says I'm too young and test is too high to consider testosterone. Any ideas or suggestions?
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Hey man, if you want a good natural t booster plus libido boost (which is stated above :p) then try the iron stack by ironchampusa, definitely has raving reviews and I just got mine in a couple days ago and feeling great!
 
Testosterone levels within physiological ranges make **** all difference in strength / size

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Thank you once again for your spot on post, Alex. The thread specifically stated and has remained on the topic of libido. But, never mind all that.
 
kisaj said:
Thank you once again for your spot on post, Alex. The thread specifically stated and has remained on the topic of libido. But, never mind all that.
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Libido has little to do with how much testosterone you have
Take some tribulus, never fails to get me hard
 
BRUstrong said:
I'm currently on Clomid for trt (prescribed by my urologist). I'm 31 and my levels before starting trt were 190-250 (tested 3 times). Since being on Clomid at 50mg EOD I'm up between 500-700. I'm using clomid so I maintain fertility. When my wife and I have kids, I'll be switched to test.

Not sure how effective clomid is when your levels are normal to begin with
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kisaj mr.cooper69

Could Clomid technically work like Test for blasting and cruising, or is there more to it than that?
 
I've done tribulus And don't really notice much difference. Maybe I'll stick with it for now, better than nothing.
Do you need to cycle tribulus or the other natty test boosters?
 
rascal14 said:
kisaj mr.cooper69

Could Clomid technically work like Test for blasting and cruising, or is there more to it than that?
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No. Clomid works by blocking estrogen and that causes the pituitary to produce more LH and that causes an increase in testosterone from the testes. That is designed to "kick start" natural production as a means of natural trt. A test blast and cruise is exogenous test that "shuts down" production of natural test and usually is a "blast" because they are taking themselves outside of physiological range. Maximum muscle growth occurs outside of the physiological range (around 20-30%), so the blast is designed to stay out side of this range for as long as possible.

So, taking extra clomid will never have this effect and there is no benefit.
 
Leftyz said:
I've done tribulus And don't really notice much difference. Maybe I'll stick with it for now, better than nothing.
Do you need to cycle tribulus or the other natty test boosters?
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Nah
They don't boost testosterone btw
But good for libido
 
kisaj said:
No. Clomid works by blocking estrogen and that causes the pituitary to produce more LH and that causes an increase in testosterone from the testes. That is designed to "kick start" natural production as a means of natural trt. A test blast and cruise is exogenous test that "shuts down" production of natural test and usually is a "blast" because they are taking themselves outside of physiological range. Maximum muscle growth occurs outside of the physiological range (around 20-30%), so the blast is designed to stay out side of this range for as long as possible.

So, taking extra clomid will never have this effect and there is no benefit.
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I should have worded that better, I meant could it be solely used for the cruise aspect of blast and cruise and cease use while on a blast, or would it at some point become ineffective at restarting your testosterone levels naturally? That's my fault on the wording, still good information though in your previous response.
 
Get on some cialis or viagra. Or if you want to go the natural route, tribulus or longjack
 
Leftyz said:
So in your experience, Cialis v. Viagra is better?
That could be a whole new thread I guess.
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Man, they both work. Try both and see which one you like better. Cialis has a much longer half-life than viagra. Hope that clarifies it.
 
Leftyz said:
So in your experience, Cialis v. Viagra is better?
That could be a whole new thread I guess.
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Cialis because it gives you stronger orgasms and you don't need to time the dose because the half life is 18 hours as opposed to 4h for viagra
 
rascal14 said:
I should have worded that better, I meant could it be solely used for the cruise aspect of blast and cruise and cease use while on a blast, or would it at some point become ineffective at restarting your testosterone levels naturally? That's my fault on the wording, still good information though in your previous response.
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Well, it almost sounds like you are talking about PCT but wording it differently. Naturally a cruise means always being on and if that is the case, I would just go with exogenous test. Otherwise, run a cycle and then a good PCT. I personally would not run clomid all the time and then blast with test.
 
kisaj said:
Well, it almost sounds like you are talking about PCT but wording it differently. Naturally a cruise means always being on and if that is the case, I would just go with exogenous test. Otherwise, run a cycle and then a good PCT. I personally would not run clomid all the time and then blast with test.
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I guess I pretty much am. I'm nowhere near that point. I was just curious since people talk about how blasting and cruising or TRT is a big commitment, having to pin every week for the rest of your life, so I figured well why can't you just replace it with Clomid in that case.
 
Side question, what is androgel and how is that different? My buddy who's in his late 40's just got on it for low test and he loves it so far.
 
I'm doing a follow up test next week while fasting and earlier in the morning to see, either way my libido is about half of what I'd like.
Maybe I'll ask into Cialis. Any side affects or reasons not to take that? Once you take those you don't get addicted and need them for life do you?
 
No, you don't get addicted other than maybe mental because you feel like a porn star. That confidence itself can help libido just knowing what you can do and for how long!
 
Leftyz said:
I'm doing a follow up test next week while fasting and earlier in the morning to see, either way my libido is about half of what I'd like.
Maybe I'll ask into Cialis. Any side affects or reasons not to take that? Once you take those you don't get addicted and need them for life do you?
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While kisaj is right about the confidence, just remember that Cialis will NOT help libido. It won't increase your urge or desire to have sex, it'll just help you get it up
 
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