Low Test-e cycle, thought's?

Jega

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Hi all,

been a member (lurker) for years but never posted anything, so here goes!

I'm 55 years old, 5'9", weigh 175lbs, train 6 times a week but only got back into it about 8 months ago. Before that I haven't trained consistently for over 30 years!! but still fairly toned. Diet is good (now), sleep is piss poor and there's no quick fix for that and I'm not going to bore you with the details of why. So that's what I'm working with.

I'm not trying to get big and realistically at this age that's not an option without some serious gear. All I'm trying to do is bulk a little and then maintain it as I get even older :eek: Tbh I've been quite happy with my results for the last few months and the only reason I'm doing test is because I've always wondered how it would work for me and my mate was on it so thought I'd give it a go :ROFLMAO:

Initial bloods show my test is 17.7 nmol/L so not too bad.
I'm now 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle, doing 250mg test-e (125mg twice a week). Sides so far have been random cramps, mainly calf and upper left chest around the collar bone for some reason?, few acne spots and my balls are shrinking. Wierdly I'm more tired which is surprising and my sex drive has dropped which is again surprising. I did get some nipple sensitivity on week 6 and 7 but that's stopped now. PCT is going to be Tamoxifen 20mg, 1 a week for 6 weeks, starting 2 to 3 weeks after my last test jab.

Anyway, I was looking for thoughts, comments, advice etc. so any questions just ask, and thanks in advance to anyone who responds.

ps. my mate is doing double what I'm doing on both test and pct.
 
I think it was a major mistake to do this cycle, especially since you had decent enough Test levels from the beginning. All you have done is shut your natural Test production down and replaced it with injections and still are at (about) the same Test level. Who knows if you even can get your natural Test back at your age.

250mg is pretty much a TRT level of Test so of course you haven’t felt anything special and most likely your estrogen is high since your sex drive is low and you feeling tired.

You have 2 options, either bail and start PCT (add Clomid) or raise your Test to the double (500mg) and actually get something out of this failure.

Whatever you do, pls ask questions before you decide to do another cycle.
 
@BBiceps
I responded to your comment days ago but it's still awaiting moderator approval?? hopefully this one will be posted.

ok fair enough, but why clomid as well as tamoxifen? and how soon would you start it after either bailing or doubling up and finishing the cycle? cheers
 
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Jega said:
@BBiceps
I responded to your comment days ago but it's still awaiting moderator approval?? hopefully this one will be posted.

ok fair enough, but why clomid as well as tamoxifen? and how soon would you start it after either bailing or doubling up and finishing the cycle?

cheers Jason
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Clomid by itself is fine but since you already have Nolva you can use both. Clomid is better at restoring Test/sperm functions. I would start PCT (25mg Clomid ed) 1 week from last pin and do 6-8 weeks.
 
I would go to [emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]-[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]mg for the last weeks. Wait -[emoji6] weeks from last injection then pct with tamoxifen [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]mg daily for -[emoji6] weeks .
I’m only saying to use tamoxifen because you have it on hand. Personally I use Enclomiphene ,[emoji6] mg daily for -[emoji6] weeks.
All of the serms work for pct.
 
thetawave said:
I would go to [emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]-[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]mg for the last weeks. Wait -[emoji6] weeks from last injection then pct with tamoxifen [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]mg daily for -[emoji6] weeks .
I’m only saying to use tamoxifen because you have it on hand. Personally I use Enclomiphene ,[emoji6] mg daily for -[emoji6] weeks.
All of the serms work for pct.
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What’s your experience of being completely shut down to the point you don’t even produce any sperm? (Which OP most likely is because of his age)
 
I’m [emoji6]yrs old. Been doing cycle per year for the last [emoji[emoji6]]years. I check my test levels about mo post PCT and it’s usually between [emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]-[emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]. I’ve done pct with clomid, tamoxifen, and Enclomiphene. They’ve all worked fine for me to restore test levels. I don’t care so much about sperm at this point in my life.
 
Sorry again for the messy post I think I have to type out numbers or I’m getting all these emoji things. Sorry
 
thetawave said:
I’m [emoji6]yrs old. Been doing cycle per year for the last [emoji[emoji6]]years. I check my test levels about mo post PCT and it’s usually between [emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]-[emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]. I’ve done pct with clomid, tamoxifen, and Enclomiphene. They’ve all worked fine for me to restore test levels. I don’t care so much about sperm at this point in my life.
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What’s wrong with your posts? Whatever you’re doing, stop it or don’t reply at all.
 
@thetawave I assume you're using a non-standard font? anyway, could you repost it with typed out numbers so I know the amounts you're talkoing about. Thanks
 
BBiceps said:
What’s your experience of being completely shut down to the point you don’t even produce any sperm? (Which OP most likely is because of his age)
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that's a bit harsh! :ROFLMAO: I had the snip years ago so no way to test it but when I orginally said my sex drive had dropped I just mean't from 4 to 5 times a week to 3 to 4 so I don't think I'm completely shut down. I'll know after the pct I suppose :unsure:
Another quick question, the guy I buy from said to take 1 nolva 20mg once a week! but I thought it was 1 a day and that's what I was planning.
 
Jega said:
@thetawave I assume you're using a non-standard font? anyway, could you repost it with typed out numbers so I know the amounts you're talkoing about. Thanks
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I suggested trying four hundred mg per week for the last four weeks of your cycle. Then wait about five weeks for your test level to drop. Pct for four weeks with twenty mg of tamoxifen per day . You’ll probably see a little better result with the higher dose and waiting a bit longer to begin pct should help your body to recover better.
 
Jega said:
that's a bit harsh! :ROFLMAO: I had the snip years ago so no way to test it but when I orginally said my sex drive had dropped I just mean't from 4 to 5 times a week to 3 to 4 so I don't think I'm completely shut down. I'll know after the pct I suppose :unsure:
Another quick question, the guy I buy from said to take 1 nolva 20mg once a week! but I thought it was 1 a day and that's what I was planning.
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You don’t “feel” that you’re shut down now because you still injecting Test. Yeah don’t listen to him, every day is what you should do for PCT.
 
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