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Low T levels, Doc AND UG?

Mike1605

Mike1605

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Well First thing I want to say is I hope this thread is ok. It seams like things get pretty hipacritical around here with what can stay and what is "breaking the rules". Hopefully the mods let me keep this open...


Im going to get to the point as I could drag this out pretty long.

23 years young
5'11'
200lbs
10%BF according to the calipers

Low T levels runs in my family. The doc actually told my dad that his levels are the lowest he has ever seen. If i remember correctly they are in the low 100s. after my dad told me all the symptoms (and i went and looked it up) I have most of them. Im going to go to the doc right away in January as i havnt payed my deductible this year for insurance so I might as well wait and pay it for the new year. Again, im not a doctor but after taking a few hours and reading everything on signs of low T levels and knowing that like 4 people in my family all have really low levels, it makes sense...

Basicly to keep it short and sweet, if this is the case and my levels are low, would this be a good time to get some other things to stack along with the Test the doc gives me?

I think im knowledgeable enough on the side effects (or lach there of), the PCT, when to use a SERM, etc but I dont know much about how everything works if i already have a low T level.

So i guess basicly my question is if i have been doing research for about a year now on starting a cycle to begin with and now my doc wants to give me test (if that turns out to be the case) for low T levels, is this a good time to do some cycles like i had planned to, or does having a low T level make it a bad time to do a cycle OUTSIDE of what my doc wants to give me.

Any help or guidance on where and what to read on would be appreciated. I dont HAVE to be spoon fed. If anyone has any good things to read up on in this subject that would be great. thanks

EDIT: I cant spell when im at work rushing so the boss dosnt see me :)
 
A lot of guys on TRT/HRT use 'other stuff' along with it, there is an advantage to being on TRT in that you are (sorta) never shut down (yes you are shut down, but T levels will be high through out...you all now what I mean :trout:)

I've seen many people run 4 week Superdrol / Phera etc cylces, which is what I'd stick to since they clear out fast and shouldn't affect any checkups you have.
 
The first couple of months you should just use whatever therapy they give you to assess how your body will react to increasing test levels.

Doctors first put me on Testim1% which is a topical gel. Then they switched to test cyp injections. If you start stacking things with your injections right off the bat, you wont know if your test doses are too little or too much.
 
WeightShift said:
The first couple of months you should just use whatever therapy they give you to assess how your body will react to increasing test levels.

Doctors first put me on Testim1% which is a topical gel. Then they switched to test cyp injections. If you start stacking things with your injections right off the bat, you wont know if your test doses are too little or too much.
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They gave my dad androgel which didnt work as well. Its the same thing, a gel. I did some research on it and EVERYONE says it ****. I guess it is just really bad at absorbing into the skin. I did all that research on non-bodybuilding forums as well. so if it didnt work for "normal" people, i doubt its worth anything to people like "us".
 
Just a quick thought if the doctor’s examination did show you had low test and he put you on test. I know it very per person but I think the average males test levels are 500-800 nanograms per deciliter could you just ask him to put you at the top of the normal range instead of the bottom. I don’t know if he would but I cant see how that would be illegal because you are still within the norm.
 
Doctor's generally aren't going to voluntarily dose you higher than average. As far as I'm concerned, all I want is my levels to be just that, average. At 22yrs old, dealing with some of the effects of low test can be immeasurably frustrating.

Your doctor may want to determine why your levels are low in the first place. Don't be surprised if they want you to get a MRI and/or CT. The first time they ask you for a blood test, ask them to cover the whole spectrum of hormones (prolactin, LH, FSH, total test, free test, etc). I bounced between 5 different doctors and had my blood drawn upwards of 10 times in two months.

Regardless of how you go about it, get your levels high enough that your physiological and psychological functions are normalized, and then you can decide how you want to manipulate your hormones on your own from there.

PS: Androgel is much less effective than Testim1%. If you are marginally low, its great, but if its detrimentally low, it wont do much.
 
WeightShift said:
At 22yrs old, dealing with some of the effects of low test can be immeasurably frustrating.
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No ****. Being 22, having a beautiful fiancee and not wanting any part of her sucks big time. I live with her, sleep next to her every night and have gotten laid once in the past 2 months. I just NEVER feel like it. as far as im concerned that alone pretty much tells me my t levels are low...
 
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