low dht

I've used accutane a few times at low dosages over extended periods, so it's very rare that I ever get any acne anymore - but yes stuff like Dermacrine used to make me break out too. It's strange that it would lower sex drive and make you irritable though. I wonder what could be happening, possibly spike in E2? I always use aromasin along side it as part of my TRT and increase it a bit when using derma.
 
Andractim arrived, says the recommended dosage is 5mg, how much should I really use? It's 2.5% DHT gel. I used some last night with no real noticeable effects yet, besides ringing in my ears.
 
lexmuscle said:
Andractim arrived, says the recommended dosage is 5mg, how much should I really use? It's 2.5% DHT gel. I used some last night with no real noticeable effects yet, besides ringing in my ears.
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I think I did get that ringing on the first couple days...it went away on the 3rd or fourth day..my guess is the initial adrenaline boost does that with the vestibular/inner ear networks..then DHT eventually balances it out by increase of nitric oxide.
 
Can anyone tell me what would be considered low levels of dht? I've had my levels tested by labcorp and they came back at 62 ng/dl but there was no reference range.
 
Ren said:
Can anyone tell me what would be considered low levels of dht? I've had my levels tested by labcorp and they came back at 62 ng/dl but there was no reference range.
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Very unusual that Labcorp issued bloodwork results with no reference range. Did you receive a copy of the test sheets? Maybe they don't have approved reference range data? Interesting.

From the peak testosterone website:

DHT 20-50 nanogram/dL - (optimal range) Reference range is 30-85. DHT is 10 times more androgenic than testosterone and has been implicated in prostate problems and hair loss.

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I thought it was weird too. I get copies of all my lab work. There doesn't seem to be much information out there about dht levels. How high is too high, and what the side effects are.
 
The side effects are actually pretty well know. How high is really the question because like e2, the effects could be different in each of us.
 
High DHT can actually definitely have a negative effect on erections/libido, due to it's opposing effect on E2. Moreso on erection quality. I noticed this while on high% creams years ago (when DHT was way out of range), and then had a discussion with The Matrix on here about it years back.

I used to think high DHT was a good thing. DHT only has a negative effect on prostate when E2 is also high. E2 has a very strong role with prostate health, whereas most people thought it was strictly DHT in the past.
 
Gutterpump said:
High DHT can actually definitely have a negative effect on erections/libido, due to it's opposing effect on E2. Moreso on erection quality. I noticed this while on high% creams years ago (when DHT was way out of range), and then had a discussion with The Matrix on here about it years back.

I used to think high DHT was a good thing. DHT only has a negative effect on prostate when E2 is also high. E2 has a very strong role with prostate health, whereas most people thought it was strictly DHT in the past.
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That must be the reason Andractim DHT gel always tanked my libido and made my joints/bones hurt like hell. Also made me freezing cold in the winter, so cold my fingers and toes would go numb. Once I stopped using it, the effects subsided.
 
Very interesting. Could this be a reason my E2 is 20 even with my TT at 900 with no AI. I apologize if I'm hijacking. If so I'll start my own thread. My libido sucks so I'm looking for answers
 
Ren said:
Very interesting. Could this be a reason my E2 is 20 even with my TT at 900 with no AI. I apologize if I'm hijacking. If so I'll start my own thread. My libido sucks so I'm looking for answers
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Your DHT is in a good range though. What's your free test / SHBG looking like?
 
Gutterpump said:
Your DHT is in a good range though. What's your free test / SHBG looking like?
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FT 16.7, (6.8 - 21.5)
I don't have a recent SHBG. The last numbers I had was 46 (16.5 - 55.9) but that was over a year ago. I need to get a complete panel done since its been a while. Thanks for the help
 
I'm 3 weeks into Andractim and feeling muuuuch better than before. Better energy, cognition, mood, and my workouts feel good again. Thanks Damage/Area..(I'm also on Longecity as BasicBio.)

Will add test cyp at low TRT doses to the mix in a few weeks to see if there is an appreciable difference. If not, I'm pleased with the DHT boost thus far.
 
bioman said:
I'm 3 weeks into Andractim and feeling muuuuch better than before. Better energy, cognition, mood, and my workouts feel good again. Thanks Damage/Area..(I'm also on Longecity as BasicBio.)

Will add test cyp at low TRT doses to the mix in a few weeks to see if there is an appreciable difference. If not, I'm pleased with the DHT boost thus far.
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Good to hear brother!
Keep pushin' plateau's - you'll find those effects become insane when you are hitting the weights hard.
 
bioman said:
I'm 3 weeks into Andractim and feeling muuuuch better than before. Better energy, cognition, mood, and my workouts feel good again. Thanks Damage/Area..(I'm also on Longecity as BasicBio.)

Will add test cyp at low TRT doses to the mix in a few weeks to see if there is an appreciable difference. If not, I'm pleased with the DHT boost thus far.
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Also, if you could leave a comment with your experiences on this page at the bottom - that would be appreciated and would keep fellas away from fake stuff/scam products...
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