Looking for feedback

[Montana18745]

Just looking for some feedback. I'm 32 with and my testosterone is low at 232ng first thing in the morning and my free testosterone falls in normal range. By lunchtime I feel done for. I've had everything tested a full thyroid panel estrogen progesterone lh fsh shbg igf-1 prolactin and everything else is normal. I did a pro hormone cycle years ago and some test. I did pct. I dont know what my levels were years ago beforehand. Could I have shut down my natural production that much even with a post cycle therapy?

 

[ValiantThor08]

Just looking for some feedback. I'm 32 with and my testosterone is low at 232ng first thing in the morning and my free testosterone falls in normal range. By lunchtime I feel done for. I've had everything tested a full thyroid panel estrogen progesterone lh fsh shbg igf-1 prolactin and everything else is normal. I did a pro hormone cycle years ago and some test. I did pct. I dont know what my levels were years ago beforehand. Could I have shut down my natural production that much even with a post cycle therapy?

You may want to look into researching Clomid at 25 to 50mg for 4 to 6 weeks. Then retest.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Whats currently your BF% ?

 

[Montana18745]

Not sure of the percentage I weigh 250 I'm 6ft. Muscular but chubby.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Not sure of the percentage I weigh 250 I'm 6ft. Muscular but chubby.

Are you currently cutting?

 

[Montana18745]

No I barely have the energy or drive to workout once I'm done with work.

 

[hairygrandpa]

As @ValiantThor08 said, you could try clomid. This is how I would do it:

week 1: 50mg/d
week 2-4: 25mg/eod
week 5-8: 25mg/e3d

I saw lab tests from people using clomid eod/e3d with greater results than ed. By week 4 they had already achieved a 300% surplus in test production and got around the 1000+ mark by week 8.
Its worth a try. I would do labs by week 12 to gauge success.

 

[Montana18745]

What do you think about an hcg restart?

 

[hairygrandpa]

You said that everything was in range, I concluded also FSH and LH. I wouldn't use HCG, unless LH is low in your case.

 

[Montana18745]

Lh 3.97 fsh 2.7. Low normal?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Normal, not too low. Go for clomid and don't overthink it. Reduce cortisol if possible. KSM-66 and/or 1gr Vit-c should do.

 

[ValiantThor08]

What do you think about an hcg restart?

HCG is suppressive to natural LH production. Clomid definitely a better option.

 

[Montana18745]

Clomid or Nolvadex? I heard clomid has lots of side effects? I've used nolvadex before not clomid. Can it be taken at night to reduce side effects?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Clomid or Nolvadex? I heard clomid has lots of side effects? I've used nolvadex before not clomid. Can it be taken at night to reduce side effects?

Clomid has a long HL and is way better to stimulate HPTA than nolva, doesn't matter when you take it, make it 1 dose, no split. Personally, I got no sides from it, even at 200mg/d.
Some people get emotional, like shedding a tear while watching a Disney movie. This seems to be dose dependent. Just follow my dosing advise, after the first week of 50mg, the risk of sides diminishes greatly.

 

[Montana18745]

Can this increase testosterone permanently or is it temporary? Sorry for all the questions?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Can this increase testosterone permanently or is it temporary? Sorry for all the questions?

Its used instead/or as TRT by endos and can elevate test permanently -or temporary.
I asked before if you are cutting -and how fat you are, this is relevant. Try to loose fat and do some lifting to get test up.