Looking for advice on primo dose—

Calibull64

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Hi all—looking for some advice here—first time trying Primo. 62 yr old male. Currently take 16 mg of test cyp daily (112 mg per week). And 2 iu of HGH at night. T level is 1400 on bloods.
I want to add primo—just to try it frankly because I never have—but everything I’m reading says ratio should be 2:1 t to p or maybe 1:1 t to p. However I’m also reading that anything less than 300-400 mg of primo a week is a waster. Happy to dose the primo daily if that makes a difference in the primo dose I should use. Thanks in advance for any help

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Rockslide answered this for you in that other thread I think.

2-1 ratio is preferred because at 1-1 it's a very possible it will tank estrogen.

Less then 300-400 mg is people's personal experience, but most ppl also rely on drugs doing the work, so because no magic happens at low doses ppl will say it doesn't work.

Gear works, but 100-200mg primo will mostly work on your estrogen, in a 12 or 16 week stretch (I wouldn't even call it a cycle) it's unlikely you will notice anything from 115mg test + 100mg Primo. Maybe a slightly dryer look from your lower estrogen.

Estrogen is also a big part of how your HGH works, when your estrogen is low you don't get as much from your hgh through limiting IGF 1 conversion. So going 1-1 with your 116mg test and 2 units GH could be counter productive.

At the same time you got to experiment and find out things for yourself because ultimately everyone is different and nobody can really answer these questions for you. We can give you the likely scenarios, and what's common, and the mechanisms of how things work. But a little bit of self experimenting is going to be required. I don't see anything wrong with starting your Primo at 100 mg but I would probably up my testosterone a little bit.
 
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@Hyde like low doses of primo, he might have some personal feedback that you may find valuable
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Well I’d agree with all of that. If he doesn’t intend to raise testosterone, he is going to get less IGF1 conversion out of his GH for sure as estrogen comes down. And then he loses the cardiovascular and brain health protection of healthy estrogen levels with the primo pulling it down too low, which is extra relevant at age 62.

At 180mg test, 120 primo was a bit dry for me. I probably wouldn’t mess with it unless I was going to run 200 test and 100 primo. I was pretty strong on that 180/120 for an offseason, felt good, but you will see it on your lipid panel for sure. It is better for collagen synthesis than testosterone, unlike mast which is worse.

Primo is a great drug to help raise total mg and anabolism of a stack, while lowering estrogen burden (vs increasing it with more solo testosterone). But with test at 16 per day…I’d be planning on upping that too if some primo is getting introduced. OR reduce shot frequency at least so you get more aromatization from the same dose of test at least.
 
Thanks guys. After this information and some other research, after I get my hip replacement surgery and recover I’m going to push the t to 200mg a week (daily injections) and add 200 primo for a 1:1, and will monitor how I feel and get monthly labs. Plan to run that for 8-10 weeks then back it down to 90 mg test a week, injected daily, for my cruise. Appreciate all the insight.
 
Reducing the shot frequency can help keep the estrogen from crashing. It can make a huge difference . I can tell you going from 2 shots to 3 shots a week lowers my estrogen drastically. Shooting for the same ratio of T:E is a good strategy ( total T is going to go way up so E should track). Worse case scenario would be keeping E the same as on TRT while total T goes up . Definitely don’t want a situation though where E has gone down . HCG could help provide some E as well as it forms in an environment in the testis where is protected from breakdown from AIs and I assume primo/dht.
 
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At your current trt dose all that primo will offer is lower estrogen.

At 112mg a week testosterone I wouldn't use more than 50mg. When your using lower dose testosterone a 2:1 ratio is preferred. I crashed my estrogen on primo and it took weeks to recover. I personally would never touch it again.

Sometimes adding an extra DHT can improve libido and mood. It can also increase hair loss.

If your looking to experiment I would maybe try some Proviron? It will improve mood and libido also.
 
I use Primo frequently at 1:1 without issues, last cycle was 600/600 and ended with 200 Test/420 Primo the last 3 weeks (used oral due to travel).

You have to try it out for yourself, Primo is great.

I’m might do 200/200 Test/Primo after this break.
 
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Calibull64 said:
Hi all—looking for some advice here—first time trying Primo. 62 yr old male. Currently take 16 mg of test cyp daily (112 mg per week). And 2 iu of HGH at night. T level is 1400 on bloods.
I want to add primo—just to try it frankly because I never have—but everything I’m reading says ratio should be 2:1 t to p or maybe 1:1 t to p. However I’m also reading that anything less than 300-400 mg of primo a week is a waster. Happy to dose the primo daily if that makes a difference in the primo dose I should use. Thanks in advance for any help

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At 62, holding a 1400 total T on just 112mg a week is fantastic. You are definitely a hyper-responder, and having the 2 IUs of HGH in the mix makes this a perfect anti-aging and optimization setup.

Regarding the Primo dose: the idea that 'anything under 300-400mg is a waste' is a bodybuilding myth meant for 25-year-old guys trying to step on a stage. For steady, clean tissue growth and overall optimization, low-dose Primo is phenomenal.

However, you need to be very careful with the ratio. Primo acts as an AI (aromatase inhibitor) for many guys. If you jump straight into a 1:1 ratio, you run a very real risk of crashing your estrogen, which will make your joints ache and kill your libido. I highly suggest starting at a 2:1 ratio (Test being higher)—so adding maybe 50mg to 60mg of Primo a week. Since you are willing to pin daily, pulling that tiny amount into your daily Test syringe will keep your blood levels incredibly stable.

The biggest hurdle with Primo is that it’s expensive to raw-produce, making it the most commonly faked compound on the market (often swapped for Masteron). If you haven't locked down a highly vetted source yet, Google Pharm899, good people, helped me a lot to ensure I was getting real Primobolan for my own TRT add-ons.

Start with 50-60mg a week, get your E2 checked after 4 weeks to see how it affects your estrogen, and titrate up from there if needed. Good luck, you're going to love how it makes you feel!
 
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