looking for a good during wo supp

[biggun2181]

i am trying to decided between vendetta, ice and xtend by scivation.
vendetta is a mix of 13g of 8 essential amino acids and 29g of carbs including sucrose and glucose
ice is a blend of 10g of 3 bcaa's with no carbs and xtend is basically the same as ice but with 1g of cm added.

 

[TheUsual]

Bump this. I am trying to make the same decision. My goal is increased recovery and energy.

I am leaning towards vendetta+Citrulline Malatate. But Xtend+Dextrose might be good as well.

 

[Scottyo]

how about whey/dextrose. Seriously, I think some of these during/preworkout supps are way overated unless you have the cash to spend.
whey/dextrose/CEE/taurine/betaine/CM if you want etc...before and during.

 

[maverick1.5]

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I use 5-6 scoops of ICE with a tsp of glutamine for during workouts. I love it, I also add 1 scoop of ICE to my post workout whey protein w/glutamine. I have Xtend but have not tried it yet, waiting for the ICE to run out. My only thing about the Xtend is the creatine. I know the citrulline malate is in it & I know that creatine is only stable in water for 7-10min; so unless the citrulline malate is different than other creatines, then as a during workout I don't think it would be a big plus over ICE since workouts last 45min.- 1 hour. now before or after workouts would be good. Like I said though I have not seen a lot of studies on CM to know how long it is stable in water. I bought the Xtend because I was low & I needed to purchase ICE but Xtend being $5 more( basically the same thing accept the CM) & getting some free CEE from a special going on I said screw it I'll give it a try. I love ICE though & would recommend it, I have fruit punch & like it. many say grape is better tasting but the fruit punch has a little more BCAA's in it so that is the route I went. If something is good & works I'm not going to cry about the taste.

 

[TheUsual]

I use 5-6 scoops of ICE with a tsp of glutamine for during workouts. I love it, I also add 1 scoop of ICE to my post workout whey protein w/glutamine. I have Xtend but have not tried it yet, waiting for the ICE to run out. My only thing about the Xtend is the creatine. I know the citrulline malate is in it & I know that creatine is only stable in water for 7-10min; so unless the citrulline malate is different than other creatines, then as a during workout I don't think it would be a big plus over ICE since workouts last 45min.- 1 hour. now before or after workouts would be good. Like I said though I have not seen a lot of studies on CM to know how long it is stable in water. I bought the Xtend because I was low & I needed to purchase ICE but Xtend being $5 more( basically the same thing accept the CM) & getting some free CEE from a special going on I said screw it I'll give it a try. I love ICE though & would recommend it, I have fruit punch & like it. many say grape is better tasting but the fruit punch has a little more BCAA's in it so that is the route I went. If something is good & works I'm not going to cry about the taste.

Citrulline Malate (CM) is not a creatine. If it is to be likened to anything, it would be L-arginine as it is a precursor to it. I'm sure the water stability issue does not apply to CM.

Some great CM info here:
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[maverick1.5]

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cool thanks for clearing that up. like i said I really have not read up on it much so i did not know. that is why this site is so great.

 

[Newb017]

i've been rockin adenergy stack+2 grams alcar+4 grams cit. malate+2 grams cex during my workout, mixed in half gallon of water, it's been workin great for me, i take about 4mL of Redline and 2 grams of cex at about 6ish and start lifting around 6:45, it's been workin great so far, strength is good and it goes deep into my workouts, i feel much more focused as to where i usually just coast a little more than I should after my big compound lift that I do first (squat or bench)