Long PH cycle?

SouthPawSD

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Hey all just wanted some input. Due to a change of plans I won't be able to run another cycle this year but already have purchased it. I am currently finishing up a 6 weeker of 4ad @ 750mg and nanodrol(msten) @ 22.5mg. I was contemplating running my second cycle as a continuation of this one which would be 6weeker or TD trest 100mg/day and epistane 40mg/day. I have all the proper ancillaries ready.

I'm more interesting in if anyone has ran PH orals this long and has blood work for it? I imagine shutdown would be pretty hard... Honestly I'm more concerned about how it would effect fertility down the road. Any thoughts appreciated.
I'm on the fence and don't want to mess myself up but also curious about others experiences. I'm leaning more to not doing it.
 
Can't give you much info on that but how did you like the 4ad and msten? I'm gonna be running nanodrol with test prop for my next cycle
 
Great cycle I did a recomp, and was very pleased with my results. I will get definite number results and I'll let you know but definitely worth it
 
I'm getting ready to run Test E with Nanodrol, in May, and finish with Anavar.
Good to hear you had a good run......I wouldn't run the Trest and Epistaine this soon, because you're already shutdown and Trest supposedly could make you sterile. It would be safer to run your PCT and wait the standard length of cycle and pct before your next cycle.
 
gphagan1 said:
I'm getting ready to run Test E with Nanodrol, in May, and finish with Anavar.
Good to hear you had a good run......I wouldn't run the Trest and Epistaine this soon, because you're already shutdown and Trest was developed for sterility. It would be safer to run your PCT and wait the standard length of cycle and pct before your next cycle.
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Thanks for the response! Ya that's what I was thinking just sucks cuz I wouldn't be able to run for about 18 months due to testing and I really want to try these PHs haha
 
IMO 12 weeks is too long for those methyls (msten and epi)... your liver will be thrashed I suspect. If you must, you better stock up on TUDCA and bum that dose into the 1g+/day range to help.

Overall tho, I'd think that 12 weeks total on all those compounds (minus the 4ad those are some of the strongest and harshest left around) will have your entire body (organs, muscles, and especially CNS) totally fried... I suspect you would reach the point of diminishing returns somehwere around week 8-10max and from there you're really just asking for injuries and problems. Even an enhanced body only has so much capacity for growth and such before mother nature puts the kibosh on it and you get hurt... tendons and joints are typically the fall-man
 
When you run these really long cycles it's going to take longer for liver values and lipids to recover, which means you'll want to wait much longer until your next cycle anyway to recover. So even though it seems like you're running more, over the long haul you might not actually be.
 
210LBS said:
When you run these really long cycles it's going to take longer for liver values and lipids to recover, which means you'll want to wait much longer until your next cycle anyway to recover. So even though it seems like you're running more, over the long haul you might not actually be.
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I totally agree....health is definitely most important.
 
My advice is bad idea to do another 6 week cycle. Those are some methyls you're running. 12 weeks seems long time for that. 6 weeks of the first cycle, with 4 or so PCT, meaning you got to ATLEAST wait 10 weeks after PCT before running that other cycle.

Side note I ran 100mg TD T3t and EPI, i got sooooo shredded it was great. I think i dropped about 8%bf, down to around 6% overall.
 
Choppedjunior said:
My advice is bad idea to do another 6 week cycle. Those are some methyls you're running. 12 weeks seems long time for that. 6 weeks of the first cycle, with 4 or so PCT, meaning you got to ATLEAST wait 10 weeks after PCT before running that other cycle.

Side note I ran 100mg TD T3t and EPI, i got sooooo shredded it was great. I think i dropped about 8%bf, down to around 6% overall.
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Did you run an ai with that stack bro? I’m running exactly that at the moment, aim to be fair is a lean bulk but despite having a good handle on diet (exactly the same as I did on a 1/4/epiandro run that did shred me up) and loads of cardio the water rentention makes any fat loss hard to see..... I’m not complaining as the strength is awesome and I feel amazing on it - really really enjoying it, just interested to see if others ripped up on cycle (and if an ai played a role) or when the water came off in pct??
 
Thanks for all the input! I thought it would be a bad idea but figured this could be of use for someone down the road with the same question!
 
Whisky said:
Did you run an ai with that stack bro? I’m running exactly that at the moment, aim to be fair is a lean bulk but despite having a good handle on diet (exactly the same as I did on a 1/4/epiandro run that did shred me up) and loads of cardio the water rentention makes any fat loss hard to see..... I’m not complaining as the strength is awesome and I feel amazing on it - really really enjoying it, just interested to see if others ripped up on cycle (and if an ai played a role) or when the water came off in pct??
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Choppedjunior said:
My advice is bad idea to do another 6 week cycle. Those are some methyls you're running. 12 weeks seems long time for that. 6 weeks of the first cycle, with 4 or so PCT, meaning you got to ATLEAST wait 10 weeks after PCT before running that other cycle.

Side note I ran 100mg TD T3t and EPI, i got sooooo shredded it was great. I think i dropped about 8%bf, down to around 6% overall.
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Also interested about the AI and how much you used. I've read trest has quite a bit of water retention.

Also were you cutting bulking or recomping on your stack?
 
SouthPawSD said:
Also interested about the AI and how much you used. I've read trest has quite a bit of water retention.

Also were you cutting bulking or recomping on your stack?
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Trest might have the worst water retention of all. You'll most likely be fine with 12.5 mg aromasin and you of course shouldn't use an absurd dosage of trest or any other aas for several reasons.
 
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