Log Keto Diet+Stack- Alphamine+Compound20+Vanillean +ReduceXT

So the liquid torem I got is about to expire in August and I have 1 bottle of epi and a half a bottle of sd...ideas on a recomp?


Also have erase, and omega 3s but need cycle assist/organ shield yet. I bought this all w the intention of using after getting cut, problem is its all from Nov (except sd is from longer ago) so I want to use it before it expires. Thoughts on a split?

I have:
28 caps erase
90 caps 10mg epi
43 caps sd 10mg
L taurine
Omega 3s
Milk thistle
Red yeast rice

Was thinking
Sd: 2/day 3 weeks bridge to epi 4 per day until all 90 caps run out (23 days)+ support supps

Pct
Erase, torem, support supps

I will buy more of each supp if needed, thoughts?
 
Now thinking epi bridge to sd is better- lean out recomp more then add muscle after dropping to my goal bf%. Only thing left is I'm not sure if dosing epi 40mg for 3 weeks or 30 mg for 4 weeks would be an effective dosage to help cut? Never took epi before but have done SD a few times so I know the drill. Just not familiar with how epi will react to a higher dose shorter time or low dose longer time. What dosage would you do?
 
Ok new plan, doing pulse

week 1: Odd days 20 mg epi, even days 10mg sd

Week 2: odd days 30mg epi, even days 20mg sd

Week 3: odd days 40mg epi, even days 20mg sd

Week 4: same as week 3

Week 5 & 6: no sd, pulse 40 mg epi on odd days

Pct:
Torem
Erase Pro
Reduce xt

Support:
Milk thistle
Red yeast rice
Omega 3s
L taurine


I rarely drink n plan to do zero drinoing on cycle bc of the two methyl compounds. I will likely buy organ shield to be safe as well. What do you guys think for pct, does the above combo look good? Was debating tossing in DAA as well but torem works pretty damn well at bringing everything back.
 
Journey so far in pics

So here were the pics I have so far from the beginning:

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Hope attaching all these work...can't wait to see what the next 2 months hold!
 
Bought the following (thanks nutraplanet for the crazy deals!)

Modern BCAA
Cycle support
Elite XT protein 4.4lb
Sesamin
Reduce XT
DAA

I figure this plus my on hand supps and I should have plenty for a while :)
 
You have made some great progress so far! Excited to see you keep it going and how the pulse cycle works out
 
So everything is going great. .. weights are jumping and I feel like I keep slimming out. Also bought cycle support, modern bcaa, reduce xt, and sesamin to toss in (reduce xt in pct im thinking? Opinions here?) However I started to slowly up my carbs to about 40g per day (from 30). My rationale is sd is a carb monster and its a lot harder to add fat while taking it (from past experience). Do you guys think this 10g increase could slow my cutting progress? Also upped the pulse in week 2 to 20mg sd/30mg epi. Thanks for the advice in advance.
 
Reduce xt in pct - sure. Good addition.
Upping carbs from 30 to 40 grams while on cycle of sd and epi - there's no issue. That's still really low and you'll still be fine cutting.
 
jswain34 said:
Reduce xt in pct - sure. Good addition.
Upping carbs from 30 to 40 grams while on cycle of sd and epi - there's no issue. That's still really low and you'll still be fine cutting.
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Thanks, for the reassurance...I can't wait until I hit under 11-12% bf, then ill start to have one carb up meal per week...(cyclical keto).

I should also mention I hurt my back sleeping funny on the sofa so I haven't done cardio for about a week and have only lifted about 3 times in the past seven days. But now my back is all better so I'll be lifting 6-7 days per week and cardio 5 days per week.
 
Don't overdo it man. You need to allow for proper rest. On cycle you may be able to get away with doing that much but during pct and afterward id back off a little bit man. Recovery is just as important buddy.
 
jswain34 said:
Don't overdo it man. You need to allow for proper rest. On cycle you may be able to get away with doing that much but during pct and afterward id back off a little bit man. Recovery is just as important buddy.
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Ya the only reason I'm tweaking the routine is bc I'm on cycle, otherwise id never fully recover with 6-7 workouts a week.
 
Weighed in, no change but my muscles are bigger, strengtg went up and waist shrank a tad...think I need to up the cardio again as ive been slacking there...
 
Think I may be getting a little bit of a start of gyno in right nip, small tiny bump that is sore when squeezed lightly. It is not yet visible though. Any recommendations? Would rather not stop cycle...maybe try some erase until pct with torem in 3 weeks?

Thoughts on how to handle this?
 
Now I think I'm just paranoid. ... no swollen, no puffy and I had to look for a lump. Worst case I will just toss in 20mg torem ED until it subsides, if I do this ill probably have to buy more but its not a big deal to get more.
 
Waist measurement this morning at 35.5" :) about 7" lost so far, 3.5" to go until I should have a visible 6 pack...
 
Man your killin it. Keep it up boss. Don't lose that determination and get satisfied. That's my problem right now. I'm kinda at a plateau that I have to start making a few more sacrifices if I want to keep up the progress. Hopefully I figure it out lol. Keep it up tho man!
 
jswain34 said:
Man your killin it. Keep it up boss. Don't lose that determination and get satisfied. That's my problem right now. I'm kinda at a plateau that I have to start making a few more sacrifices if I want to keep up the progress. Hopefully I figure it out lol. Keep it up tho man!
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Thanks for the encouragement! I know what you mean with plateaus. ..the leaner you get the trickier it is to lose the last bit. I'm sure you have a great plan but let me know if you want any ideas on shaking things up and I'll throw a few suggestions out there.
 
exrugger said:
Thanks for the encouragement! I know what you mean with plateaus. ..the leaner you get the trickier it is to lose the last bit. I'm sure you have a great plan but let me know if you want any ideas on shaking things up and I'll throw a few suggestions out there.
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Cool man will do. Basically I just need to quit drinking so much craft beer with my buddies on the weekends lol. Other than that I do pretty damn well.
 
jswain34 said:
Cool man will do. Basically I just need to quit drinking so much craft beer with my buddies on the weekends lol. Other than that I do pretty damn well.
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Haha craft beer will do it everytime, fortunately I prefer the herb to the drink so its likely a lot better for me from a diet perspective lol.
 
Had an amazing workout, I feel like I'm starting to get some more definition in my chest and midsection. Even the gf commented that she could tell ive both lost fat and put on muscle in the last few weeks...excited to see what the next several weeks hold!
 
Getting really strong now, 365x3 on my last set of bench. My all time record is 375x4, I still have a few weeks left on this so lets see if i can beat that...my ultimate goal now is 400 for 3

Also weighed in at 220 but definitely a lot leaner so I'm picking up a lot of muscle...I'm gonna estimate about10-12lbs so far. I'll continue to keep everyone posted :)
 
Bench 385x3, I really want to hit 405 but I don't think it wipl happen bc I kust switched gyms and will need to get used to the new bench there first (before I was benching on the smith bc planet crapness doesn't like free weights. Also been maxing out most machines there so I found a better gym where I can keep growing and pushing myself.
 
Bench 385x3, I really want to hit 405 but I don't think it will happen bc I just switched gyms and will need to get used to the new bench there first (before I was benching on the smith machine bc planet crapness doesn't like free weights). Also been maxing out most machines there so I found a better gym where I can keep growing and pushing myself.

Anyhow, weights are through the roof, still getting leaner...everyone blatantly notices I'm a lot bigger and a lot leaner now and I get it a lot now 'dude your lookin swole/jacked/huge' feels great... I'm definitely keeping this momentum all the way through pct which starts in about a week.
 
Hit my bench goal of 405 yesterday for two, that's probably the last time I'll ever do that...the weight was just so heavy its hard for me to believe that much weight doesn't stress my bones amd tendons and is doing more harm than good. Thoughts?
 
Into pct for about a week now, taking erase pro/torem/daa/reduce xt plus bullnox for pre workout. Boys bounced back already and I feel like the sides from this cycle have been next to zero. Only thing I noticed was added agression throughout the day as far as negatives. This was a 7 week cycle pulsed eod (epi one day, sd the next).

I gained about 11-12 lbs from the cycle but lost 4 percent body fat, I'm around 13.4 percent bf now (caliper method). I will say this has been the best cutting/recomp type cycle I've ever done. Also I started to incorporate a cheat meal one day a week to help preserve some of this new muscle. So I'm officially switching to cyclical keto but I'm going to reserve the right to skip the cheat meal if I feel like it prevents me from overcoming a plateau.
 
Also, bullnox has a pretty solid testosterone boosting complex (trib, zma, yohimbe etc...) which is a plus for the pct :)
 
Trib doesn't boost test. How are you're experiences with torem?
 
jswain34 said:
Trib doesn't boost test. How are you're experiences with torem?
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First I time heard trib is bunk, torem is awesome...zero sides whatsoever...dosing 120 for 3 days, 90 for 4 days, 60 for week 2 and 3 and 30 mg until done (should be another week). Plus erase and reduce xt and daa. I feel like I've already bounced back...
 
Awesome. Sounds good man. Yah trib is simply a libido booster, so it still has its place in pct.
 
So not to knock DAA but it is not the supplement for me. Noticed zero improvement exercise wise after two weeks of use, just lots of irritation and mood swings. However, I do think it helped bring the boys back quicker so I recommend only using it for that during the first week of pct. As a muscle/strength booster I've seen better effects with simple creatine mono. To each his own...
 
Daa usually takes about 14 days to reach the saturation level needed to boost test if I'm not mistaking. Therefore: 1st week of pct would do little to nothing.
 
jswain34 said:
Daa usually takes about 14 days to reach the saturation level needed to boost test if I'm not mistaking. Therefore: 1st week of pct would do little to nothing.
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Thanks for the scientific knowledge, then for me DAA is simply not worth it. Rage tendency was worse than when I was on cycle...not worth it imo
 
Hi - some great info here thank you. I'm ketogenic newbie (barely a week in). Plus I dusted off my bottle of dexaprine this morning and popped half a pill. I'm also doing IF (18:6) .

Your honest opinon - is this combo nuts? Dangerous? Both?

I have no option other than SKD for now. I'm injured and can't exercise for 6 weeks - aim is to still lose fat but retain muscle.
 
missymoo said:
Hi - some great info here thank you. I'm ketogenic newbie (barely a week in). Plus I dusted off my bottle of dexaprine this morning and popped half a pill. I'm also doing IF (18:6) .

Your honest opinon - is this combo nuts? Dangerous? Both?

I have no option other than SKD for now. I'm injured and can't exercise for 6 weeks - aim is to still lose fat but retain muscle.
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Nah. good setup
 
For anyone still following; I just bought a house at the start of August so have been crazy busy w this. I'm at 220 lbs and I'd estimate 11.5 percent bf now. Got a lot bigger too and still staying strong w the diet and routine. Plan is to be 215-220 at 8 percent bf, also I'm 5'9".

Some cool stats:

Bench- 405x2
Deadlift- 405x3 - I know weak, just got back into it tho so this will jump a lot
Db curls-90x8 (each arm)

Going to start training legs again as well but have been apprehensive as I had knee surgery a few years back. I plan on sticking to leg press and lunges. Any good ecercises for someone who had acl+mcl surgery would be greatly appreciated as well.

I will try to post a pic in the next few days.
 
In regards to ur leg post. Split squats, step ups, deadlifts, good mornings, pull throughs, romanian deadlifts, hack squat, glute bridges.

Get some mobility work in and learn how to squat correctly and there should be little to no issues.

I didnt know you werent training legs at all on a cycle of SD and Epi...i really am not a fan of that but whatever do you i guess.
 
jswain34 said:
In regards to ur leg post. Split squats, step ups, deadlifts, good mornings, pull throughs, romanian deadlifts, hack squat, glute bridges.

Get some mobility work in and learn how to squat correctly and there should be little to no issues.

I didnt know you werent training legs at all on a cycle of SD and Epi...i really am not a fan of that but whatever do you i guess.
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Ya I tried squatting and legs for a lil while n it really hurt my knee so I stopped. I am deadlifting again though and feel like I'm starting to build it back up. The injury I had left me with several screws and a cadaver tendon where my acl used to be and I permanently lost 30 percent of my mcl, rugby injury. Dr said I will need to have a second surgery 15 years later so I still have ten years to make the muscles strong. I think I'm going to do lunges and leg press along with some leg curls to start and try to build them back to the powerlifting days :)
 
Leg pressed this past week, could hardly walk for days afterwards lol I'm looking forward to building them up.

My right shoulder is really bothering me tho so I'm taking it easy on bench and shoulder preds in the meantime.
 
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