log for AX's Hyperdrol + MassFX(alpha version)
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Irish480
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Wow I love the log but you're obviously a pride nuthugger lol... Pride did a lame ass 40 minute intercession at their last event as they normally do in Japan - Dont sway the facts just because you like their organization better. That being said I love watching both because I love Hughes and I love Phil Baroni. I'm constantly ordering the two.
Support the sport!
BtW I train BJJ too, who is your coach?
Support the sport!
BtW I train BJJ too, who is your coach?
ersatz
Well-known member
Not sure how one can sway the facts per se. I was merely recounting my experiences having attended both events and my overall opinions of the experiences. It's true that I do favor pride for a number of reasons. I even favor their boradcasts as they usually air the entire card whereas the UFC has never done so.
But just because I favor Pride doesn't mena I have to condemn the UFc or other promotions like KOTC, WEC, WFA, IFL, Cage Rage, etc. I always found it humorous that you had to align yourself with either UFC or Pride and that there was this mutual exclusion. When it comes down to it all that matters is enterataining fights and it doesn't matter where they take place.
Like you I'll watch and support any organization that puts on entertaining match-ups.
I watched the Real Deal broadcast yesterday and intermission was boring for the televised audience. Pride is normally on tape delay so the intermission is not an issue. If they continue to have live broadcasts then this is something they need to work on.
I've trained at numerous places especially in the past few years.
I'll have to say that Brennan is my coach even though I haven't trained under him for a few years. He was my second instructor and I trained with him for over 3 years so he is most influential in my training.
But just because I favor Pride doesn't mena I have to condemn the UFc or other promotions like KOTC, WEC, WFA, IFL, Cage Rage, etc. I always found it humorous that you had to align yourself with either UFC or Pride and that there was this mutual exclusion. When it comes down to it all that matters is enterataining fights and it doesn't matter where they take place.
Like you I'll watch and support any organization that puts on entertaining match-ups.
I watched the Real Deal broadcast yesterday and intermission was boring for the televised audience. Pride is normally on tape delay so the intermission is not an issue. If they continue to have live broadcasts then this is something they need to work on.
I've trained at numerous places especially in the past few years.
I'll have to say that Brennan is my coach even though I haven't trained under him for a few years. He was my second instructor and I trained with him for over 3 years so he is most influential in my training.
ersatz
Well-known member
Day 29
Thursday's workout
Workout: 1-2 rep max
Flat bench press
5 x 205 | 1 x 265 | 1x 305 | 1 x 305
Incline Bench Press
2x 205 | 1 x 225
Seated Rows
5 x 200 | 2 x 250 | 1 x 280 | failed x 300
Deadlifts
5 x 265 | 1 x 305 | 1 x 315 | failed x 345
Squats
5 x 265 | 2 x 305| 1 x 365
Calf Raises
5 x 305 | 2 x 345 | 2 x 345 | 2 x 345
Overhead barbell press
5 x 100 | 2 x 150 | failed x 175
Barbell curls
5 x 80 | 1 x 120 | 1x 140
Cable tricep pushdowns
5 x 100 | 2 x 150 | 1 x 160 | 1 x 180
Tried increasing the weights with varying success. Aggression and libido have definitely waned in the past few days. Aggression and intensity from MassFX would have helped with the workout. Stim-X also provided a nice energy boost when taken on a semi empty stomach that would also have been beneficial.
Thursday's workout
Workout: 1-2 rep max
Flat bench press
5 x 205 | 1 x 265 | 1x 305 | 1 x 305
Incline Bench Press
2x 205 | 1 x 225
Seated Rows
5 x 200 | 2 x 250 | 1 x 280 | failed x 300
Deadlifts
5 x 265 | 1 x 305 | 1 x 315 | failed x 345
Squats
5 x 265 | 2 x 305| 1 x 365
Calf Raises
5 x 305 | 2 x 345 | 2 x 345 | 2 x 345
Overhead barbell press
5 x 100 | 2 x 150 | failed x 175
Barbell curls
5 x 80 | 1 x 120 | 1x 140
Cable tricep pushdowns
5 x 100 | 2 x 150 | 1 x 160 | 1 x 180
Tried increasing the weights with varying success. Aggression and libido have definitely waned in the past few days. Aggression and intensity from MassFX would have helped with the workout. Stim-X also provided a nice energy boost when taken on a semi empty stomach that would also have been beneficial.
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ersatz
Well-known member
Final Review
End weight 178.2
Change +5.2lbs
Bodyfat 7.3% I don't like measuring to the tenths degree of precision for various reasons. So there wasn't much if any change in bodyfat.
Strength- Gains were moderate, +10lbs on deadlift and +20lbs on squats. Was also able to knock out more reps on the circuit based training.
Cardiovascular - No change in endurance levels. Amount of time taken to reach a desired heart rate was consistent throughout which can be rare when trying to bulk. Blood pressure was also consistent within a -/+5% margin.
Aggression and libido increased while on the stack and peaked around the 20 day mark and seemed to level off thereafter. Upon cessation of MassFX libido and aggression tapered off so it's reasonable to associate those effects to said product. Skin was also a bit more oily. These 'sides' seem to indicate an androgenic effect though I can say if it's intrinsic or not. Use of an AI maybe be necessary hence the recommendation to stack alongside Hyperdrol.
Other sides were minimal at best, not much of a muscle pump like you would get from a NO product. No affect on sleep patterns, nor any increase in joint soreness, cramping, lethargy, appetite or water retention. Aside from increases in aggression, libido and oily skin sides were relatively free.
Now for what you really want to know, how does it compare to other non hormonal anabolic type products. I've used a number of ecdy products including Anagen, and Activate+RXT, trib, PowerFULL and Symmetry X to name a few. This stack actually produced discernable gains in weight. I've used the other products for 6 weeks at a time with a 2-3lb increase in weight(lbm) but it's hard to attribute it to natural progression or the product. For me this stack has been the most effective at increasing lbm. The effects of the stack also manifest themselves within a week whereas most products take around 2 weeks to kick in. I was a bit surprised I could feel the stack by the end of the first week. The rapid gain in lbm was also unexpected and perhaps the result of increased glycogen storage. This will probably dissipate overtime as I thought my weight would have been higher than it was. It's been a few days off of HD and over a week off of MassFX and I feel like weight might be decreasing a bit. I'll see if the trend persists and report such in a further post. Certain circumstances arose that while I don't feel impacted my results may have nonetheless. Still a 5lb increase isn't too shabby. I'll likely run this product again in the future but for at least 6 weeks if not 8. 4 weeks just doesn't seem like an adequate enough period to derive the full benefits from products of this nature at least in my experience.
End weight 178.2
Change +5.2lbs
Bodyfat 7.3% I don't like measuring to the tenths degree of precision for various reasons. So there wasn't much if any change in bodyfat.
Strength- Gains were moderate, +10lbs on deadlift and +20lbs on squats. Was also able to knock out more reps on the circuit based training.
Cardiovascular - No change in endurance levels. Amount of time taken to reach a desired heart rate was consistent throughout which can be rare when trying to bulk. Blood pressure was also consistent within a -/+5% margin.
Aggression and libido increased while on the stack and peaked around the 20 day mark and seemed to level off thereafter. Upon cessation of MassFX libido and aggression tapered off so it's reasonable to associate those effects to said product. Skin was also a bit more oily. These 'sides' seem to indicate an androgenic effect though I can say if it's intrinsic or not. Use of an AI maybe be necessary hence the recommendation to stack alongside Hyperdrol.
Other sides were minimal at best, not much of a muscle pump like you would get from a NO product. No affect on sleep patterns, nor any increase in joint soreness, cramping, lethargy, appetite or water retention. Aside from increases in aggression, libido and oily skin sides were relatively free.
Now for what you really want to know, how does it compare to other non hormonal anabolic type products. I've used a number of ecdy products including Anagen, and Activate+RXT, trib, PowerFULL and Symmetry X to name a few. This stack actually produced discernable gains in weight. I've used the other products for 6 weeks at a time with a 2-3lb increase in weight(lbm) but it's hard to attribute it to natural progression or the product. For me this stack has been the most effective at increasing lbm. The effects of the stack also manifest themselves within a week whereas most products take around 2 weeks to kick in. I was a bit surprised I could feel the stack by the end of the first week. The rapid gain in lbm was also unexpected and perhaps the result of increased glycogen storage. This will probably dissipate overtime as I thought my weight would have been higher than it was. It's been a few days off of HD and over a week off of MassFX and I feel like weight might be decreasing a bit. I'll see if the trend persists and report such in a further post. Certain circumstances arose that while I don't feel impacted my results may have nonetheless. Still a 5lb increase isn't too shabby. I'll likely run this product again in the future but for at least 6 weeks if not 8. 4 weeks just doesn't seem like an adequate enough period to derive the full benefits from products of this nature at least in my experience.
ersatz
Well-known member
Did someone say blood test results?
Post bloodwork:
WBC: 8.3 (4.5-11.0)
RBC: 6.0 (4.2-5.8)
Glucose: 83 (70-105)
BUN: 14 (7-18)
ALT: 23 (10-60)
AST: 17 (10-43)
Cholesterol: 140.2 (0.0-200.0)
Triglycerides: 56 (35-160)
HDL: 69.0 (29.0-85.0)
LDL: 71.2 (65-131.0)
TSH .89 low?
T4 8.35 (5-12)
T3 181 (40-180)
LH 5.3 (0.8-7.6)
SHGB 44 (7-50)
Total Test 737 (300-1200)
% free Test 1.6 (1.1-2.8)
Estradiol-17b 18 (5-53)
I wasn't able to get bloodwork done immediately pre cycle so I can only compare to results from 8 months ago and beyond.
Total T is suauly around 550 and %free T <1.0. SHBG has always been high as well as thyroid hormones. Estradiol has been in the low 20s and LDL is usually 57-63. Everything else is within 5% of previous tests.
Post bloodwork:
WBC: 8.3 (4.5-11.0)
RBC: 6.0 (4.2-5.8)
Glucose: 83 (70-105)
BUN: 14 (7-18)
ALT: 23 (10-60)
AST: 17 (10-43)
Cholesterol: 140.2 (0.0-200.0)
Triglycerides: 56 (35-160)
HDL: 69.0 (29.0-85.0)
LDL: 71.2 (65-131.0)
TSH .89 low?
T4 8.35 (5-12)
T3 181 (40-180)
LH 5.3 (0.8-7.6)
SHGB 44 (7-50)
Total Test 737 (300-1200)
% free Test 1.6 (1.1-2.8)
Estradiol-17b 18 (5-53)
I wasn't able to get bloodwork done immediately pre cycle so I can only compare to results from 8 months ago and beyond.
Total T is suauly around 550 and %free T <1.0. SHBG has always been high as well as thyroid hormones. Estradiol has been in the low 20s and LDL is usually 57-63. Everything else is within 5% of previous tests.
maddenizor
Member
Is test levels supposed to be that high, i am 21 and dont have levels that high. Or was it the supplements?
westieguy89
New member
erstatz any hint of gyno while on ths stack?