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Day 31
Going out to buy some Hawthorne for my BP. It's getting high, I can feel it. Almost passed out after lifting for an hour today, got dizzy and just didn't feel awesome. Also same yesterday when i was mowing the lawn. I had to stop, come in for 5 then continue. That's a first... Granted today I drank d-stunner pwo but that big test shot in combination raised the BP too high. Even now I can feel my heart pounding. I was embarrassed because the foreplay BJ from the wife this afternoon didn't really do much to get me hard. I just hang my head and wait for all the sht in my body to balance out. When perfect, I'm a porn star. When not like today, I'm whiskey dk. Or tren dk more like it.

Im fkn lame

(This is what a log should be. Truth.)
 
threeFs said:
Day 31
Going out to buy some Hawthorne for my BP. It's getting high, I can feel it. Almost passed out after lifting for an hour today, got dizzy and just didn't feel awesome. Also same yesterday when i was mowing the lawn. I had to stop, come in for 5 then continue. That's a first... Granted today I drank d-stunner pwo but that big test shot in combination raised the BP too high. Even now I can feel my heart pounding. I was embarrassed because the foreplay BJ from the wife this afternoon didn't really do much to get me hard. I just hang my head and wait for all the sht in my body to balance out. When perfect, I'm a porn star. When not like today, I'm whiskey dk. Or tren dk more like it.

Im fkn lame

(This is what a log should be. Truth.)
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True that!! Lol. You not taking cycle assist?
 
D stunner is not my friend. Makes me feel horrible. Nice progress pics tho man you've really come down in bf a fair bit.
 
Gotta get that BP under control you should have started Hawthornberries with the cycle. It takes a bit to work its magic.
 
vassille said:
Gotta get that BP under control you should have started Hawthornberries with the cycle. It takes a bit to work its magic.
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Just bought Hawthorne tincture. Still got limp noodle. Probably too much exemestane so hopefully I will even out soon. I'm so fragile!
 
Day 32
No training today, gotta do some work for my parents.
Hit the Hawthorne, another 200mg test, and the rest of the tren in that vial, about...oh, 70mg. No AI obviously so hopefully blood will begin flowing downtown again.

Not much else to report. Hope y'all are enjoying this journey along with me. Thanks for riding. Still have another 10ml of tren to go
 
threeFs said:
Just bought Hawthorne tincture. Still got limp noodle. Probably too much exemestane so hopefully I will even out soon. I'm so fragile!
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haha dont fell apart on me now:)
The on thing with aromasin is active up to 7 days which will give you some ups and downs. It's very easy to over medicate on this stuff since you think that is not working and ppl tend to take more of it every day.
 
Subbed.. Man your scaring me i hope i dont get tren d*ck.. I jus got me dime thats just wants to go at it constantly. I have trouble keeping up with her now
 
vassille said:
haha dont fell apart on me now:)
The on thing with aromasin is active up to 7 days which will give you some ups and downs. It's very easy to over medicate on this stuff since you think that is not working and ppl tend to take more of it every day.
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Yes, pretty much nailed it as you always do!
 
machorox123 said:
Subbed.. Man your scaring me i hope i dont get tren d*ck.. I jus got me dime thats just wants to go at it constantly. I have trouble keeping up with her now
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Yeah man, it's super lame. I couldn't even whack off to porn, I tried and eventually just hung my head and went to bed. It's weird, you're thinking 'you're so hot but why doesn't this work?'
 
vassille said:
haha dont fell apart on me now:)
The on thing with aromasin is active up to 7 days which will give you some ups and downs. It's very easy to over medicate on this stuff since you think that is not working and ppl tend to take more of it every day.
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Exemstane only has an active life of 27hours. Hence the reason itshould be dosed ED. its quite strange, its in your system for awhile but is only active for just over a day. If I was on my computer if link up a study for you to look at but I'm on vacation.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Exemstane only has an active life of 27hours. Hence the reason itshould be dosed ED. its quite strange, its in your system for awhile but is only active for just over a day. If I was on my computer if link up a study for you to look at but I'm on vacation.
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Yeah, that's what I thought as well. I was hitting it hard at about 20-35 for like 5 days, stopping like 2 days ago. Man it sux because when it's dialed in right I'm dirk diggler. When it's off either way up or down, I'm Johnny excuse maker...
 
Lukef2000 said:
Exemstane only has an active life of 27hours. Hence the reason itshould be dosed ED. its quite strange, its in your system for awhile but is only active for just over a day. If I was on my computer if link up a study for you to look at but I'm on vacation.
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yeah I heard this before but I always had a time table of 5-7 days for aromasin. I agree with you though is strange the way it behaves.
 
vassille said:
yeah I heard this before but I always had a time table of 5-7 days for aromasin. I agree with you though is strange the way it behaves.
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From memory and I may be off as its been awhile since i read it but I think that the half life and active life are different so while its active life is only 27 hours I think the half life is actually quite a bit longer. Strange drug for sure
 
threeFs said:
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LOL just back off for a bit then maybe take half the dosage every other day or E3D of aromasin.
I find that if I get way out of wack with aromasin I take adex instead. Easier to control
Also, cut down the injection dosage and pin more often. That tends to stabilize androgen levels and less conversion to estrogen.
 
vassille said:
LOL just back off for a bit then maybe take half the dosage every other day or E3D of aromasin.
I find that if I get way out of wack with aromasin I take adex instead. Easier to control
Also, cut down the injection dosage and pin more often. That tends to stabilize androgen levels and less conversion to estrogen.
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I've been tren ED and test 2x/wk. No exemestane in 3 days now and I'm beginning to normalize a bit. Super sweaty in bed and starting to get some blood flow back down there.
It seems like the problem I had was the fine balance between test and exemestane. The tren at 60 seems like my sweet spot at tbis test dosage. I forgot how powerful exemestane is and that it takes about 3 days to take full effect and about 4 to diminish if I overdo it.

My plan is exemestane 12.5 e 2-3 days. I will start at e3d and increase if I need it.
 
threeFs said:
I've been tren ED and test 2x/wk. No exemestane in 3 days now and I'm beginning to normalize a bit. Super sweaty in bed and starting to get some blood flow back down there.
It seems like the problem I had was the fine balance between test and exemestane. The tren at 60 seems like my sweet spot at tbis test dosage. I forgot how powerful exemestane is and that it takes about 3 days to take full effect and about 4 to diminish if I overdo it.

My plan is exemestane 12.5 e 2-3 days. I will start at e3d and increase if I need it.
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Good plan!
If you do tren ED then try test ED too.
 
threeFs said:
Even though it's test cyp? Right?
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Yeap hormon levels will be more consistent and you will be able to control estrogen much easier. Just keep track of everything and pinpoint the sweet spot then follow the aromasin schedule as you mentioned in the earlier post.
 
vassille said:
Yeap hormon levels will be more consistent and you will be able to control estrogen much easier. Just keep track of everything and pinpoint the sweet spot then follow the aromasin schedule as you mentioned in the earlier post.
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Thanks man, I'm glad you're here
 
Day 33
plumbing fixed! About darn time! Too bad we have to wait until the kids nap to do it

I tied my squat PR at 425x2. Lots of other squats, 315x8 was new.
I think I'm going to take a break from the clen for a few days. It just makes me shaky and irritable and high BP. Actually I had to take my ear buds out on the heavy squats because it was just too much darn pressure.
Just carbed up and feeling good
 
threeFs said:
Day 31Going out to buy some Hawthorne for my BP. It's getting high, I can feel it. Almost passed out after lifting for an hour today, got dizzy and just didn't feel awesome. Also same yesterday when i was mowing the lawn. I had to stop, come in for 5 then continue. That's a first... Granted today I drank d-stunner pwo but that big test shot in combination raised the BP too high. Even now I can feel my heart pounding. I was embarrassed because the foreplay BJ from the wife this afternoon didn't really do much to get me hard. I just hang my head and wait for all the sht in my body to balance out. When perfect, I'm a porn star. When not like today, I'm whiskey dk. Or tren dk more like it.Im fkn lame(This is what a log should be. Truth.)
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My question is why would you use pwo drink while on cycle isn't that something better suited for pct? A lot of pwo drinks are loaded with stimulants. I'm starting my first cycle ever soon (epistane) and avoiding anything that will raise blood pressure coffee and all caffeine related products and trying not to get angry at work or school.
 
absurd said:
My question is why would you use pwo drink while on cycle isn't that something better suited for pct? A lot of pwo drinks are loaded with stimulants. I'm starting my first cycle ever soon (epistane) and avoiding anything that will raise blood pressure coffee and all caffeine related products and trying not to get angry at work or school.
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1 no pct because I'm on trt
2 I'm a pwo junkie, unstoppable when geeked out on that stuff, but 7/10 when 'sober'
 
My wife is so cool. She said if anyone should be embarrassed it's her since her antidepressants kill off her sex drive. She understands how trt manipulates hormones and all that, and just give her the nod when the dik gets back to normal.

I don't know exactly what I did to myself. I was reading how tren can do this to guys, not right away, but over time even if dosage remains the same. I ordered some boner maker juice yesterday just to have, just in case. Although no tren yesterday and none today and I did have a morning salute. It wasn't throbbing rock hard almost painful like they were at the beginning of this cycle, but good enough to tell me the break from tren is a good call.

I think I'm just going to take another day or two off tren and see how it affects my sex drive and sex organ. But I will definitely be continuing the tren and the log after this "reset"
 
threeFs said:
1 no pct because I'm on trt
2 I'm a pwo junkie, unstoppable when geeked out on that stuff, but 7/10 when 'sober'
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Now I have read this before.
If someone were to do a 3 week sd kicker and 500mg a week test for those 3 plus 3 more weeks (6 weeks), and be on TRT at 100mg every other week,
Would there still be no SERM required? Maybe just an AI? It seems like a huge step down on test levels going from 500 a week to 100 every other.
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Now I have read this before.
If someone were to do a 3 week sd kicker and 500mg a week test for those 3 plus 3 more weeks (6 weeks), and be on TRT at 100mg every other week,
Would there still be no SERM required? Maybe just an AI? It seems like a huge step down on test levels going from 500 a week to 100 every other.
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Well it would be more like 100/wk for trt. I'm at 120. But it's not necessarily a huge step down, more of a huge step up when you start a cycle
 
threeFs said:
Well it would be more like 100/wk for trt. I'm at 120. But it's not necessarily a huge step down, more of a huge step up when you start a cycle
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Well, I was referring to myself and future plans, as I am currently on 100 every 2 weeks for trt. After the cycle rebound is what I would be most concerned with. Seems like that low trt dosage may not be enough to combat the rebound
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Well, I was referring to myself and future plans, as I am currently on 100 every 2 weeks for trt. After the cycle rebound is what I would be most concerned with. Seems like that low trt dosage may not be enough to combat the rebound
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So like ease back down slower? Like taper?
 
Day 36
50mg masteron/50mg test/50mg tren
Back in business. I kind of fell off with eating and drinking over the weekend so my goal is no cheats until Friday.
Today's pin will be everyday. Exemestane eod at 12.5. I kind of got careless with my doses and wrecker my pecker. But G2G now, libido high and blood flowing fine. Boner maker should arrive today and I might see how that works. Why not? I forget sometimes that I'm 35 and not 25.
This tren is less full than I thought so looks like about 2 weeks left on that. But I have a big jug of masteron and tons of test so I might keep running that.

Veins all over my forearms are here to stay (at least while on). Sleep has been weird, I sometimes feel like I'm not sleeping even though I am? Good thing I'm off all summer. Not sure I could run tren when I have to go to work. I'd probably be super grumpy. Strength is almost funny to me. Squatting 425, maxing out the rack DB chest press with 130's, dips again, pull ups with no swing, hanging leg raises... just goes to show that strength is not correlated with bodyfat. Even though my goal is less bodyfat it's cool watching my PR's go up. Whatever

I want to get bloods this week. I'm thinking:
Test
E2
Prolactin
Anything else???
 
New PR walking lunges 300x 6 (3 steps each leg)
I haven't done them in awhile because my low back has been so tight. But I've been stretching alot and I had a dream about hitting 300 today. I also did 135, 225, 275, 285 then 300.

Funny how the dumb soccer moms didn't move out of my GD way. Zero gym etiquette but I'm sure they cry when someone doesn't wipe off their machines

Damn it feels good to be a gangster
 
threeFs said:
New PR walking lunges 300x 6 (3 steps each leg)
I haven't done them in awhile because my low back has been so tight. But I've been stretching alot and I had a dream about hitting 300 today. I also did 135, 225, 275, 285 then 300.

Funny how the dumb soccer moms didn't move out of my GD way. Zero gym etiquette but I'm sure they cry when someone doesn't wipe off their machines

Damn it feels good to be a gangster
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Hahaha right on! That's sick weight I am struggling with lunges on the smith machine with 45's.
 
thyrod said:
Hahaha right on! That's sick weight I am struggling with lunges on the smith machine with 45's.
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The smith machine takes out your natural body position. I wouldn't use it for legs. Plus it increases shear forces on your spine and knees. Just walk with a bar in your back and be like me
 
Do you do them in the squat rack? I can't even balance, sadly enough. I can't so the walking custom gym is to tight with not much walking tool for lunges.
 
threeFs said:
Day 36
50mg masteron/50mg test/50mg tren
Back in business. I kind of fell off with eating and drinking over the weekend so my goal is no cheats until Friday.
Today's pin will be everyday. Exemestane eod at 12.5. I kind of got careless with my doses and wrecker my pecker. But G2G now, libido high and blood flowing fine. Boner maker should arrive today and I might see how that works. Why not? I forget sometimes that I'm 35 and not 25.
This tren is less full than I thought so looks like about 2 weeks left on that. But I have a big jug of masteron and tons of test so I might keep running that.

Veins all over my forearms are here to stay (at least while on). Sleep has been weird, I sometimes feel like I'm not sleeping even though I am? Good thing I'm off all summer. Not sure I could run tren when I have to go to work. I'd probably be super grumpy. Strength is almost funny to me. Squatting 425, maxing out the rack DB chest press with 130's, dips again, pull ups with no swing, hanging leg raises... just goes to show that strength is not correlated with bodyfat. Even though my goal is less bodyfat it's cool watching my PR's go up. Whatever

I want to get bloods this week. I'm thinking:
Test
E2
Prolactin
Anything else???
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Lipids? I think these are important to check.
 
threeFs said:
Day 36
50mg masteron/50mg test/50mg tren
Back in business. I kind of fell off with eating and drinking over the weekend so my goal is no cheats until Friday.
Today's pin will be everyday. Exemestane eod at 12.5. I kind of got careless with my doses and wrecker my pecker. But G2G now, libido high and blood flowing fine. Boner maker should arrive today and I might see how that works. Why not? I forget sometimes that I'm 35 and not 25.
This tren is less full than I thought so looks like about 2 weeks left on that. But I have a big jug of masteron and tons of test so I might keep running that.

Veins all over my forearms are here to stay (at least while on). Sleep has been weird, I sometimes feel like I'm not sleeping even though I am? Good thing I'm off all summer. Not sure I could run tren when I have to go to work. I'd probably be super grumpy. Strength is almost funny to me. Squatting 425, maxing out the rack DB chest press with 130's, dips again, pull ups with no swing, hanging leg raises... just goes to show that strength is not correlated with bodyfat. Even though my goal is less bodyfat it's cool watching my PR's go up. Whatever

I want to get bloods this week. I'm thinking:
Test
E2
Prolactin
Anything else???
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Cholesterol
 
OK so high cholesterol?? I eat real low Carb so how else to fix it?

Btw cialis works, performed great. I was nervous
 
threeFs said:
OK so high cholesterol?? I eat real low Carb so how else to fix it?

Btw cialis works, performed great. I was nervous
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Good deal!!
I have read that increasing healthy fats such as epa/dha found in fish oil will help your lipid profile. There are also some other supps that people have suggested but I can't remember. Definitely monitor the lipids though, because you are on a pretty heavy cycle
 
drewsicle3210 said:
Good deal!!
I have read that increasing healthy fats such as epa/dha found in fish oil will help your lipid profile. There are also some other supps that people have suggested but I can't remember. Definitely monitor the lipids though, because you are on a pretty heavy cycle
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Thanks. Looks like red yeast rice will be on my list for tomorrow. Can't hurt.
 
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