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Liver Pain

gocubbies73

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Liver Pain - Please Help!!

Hey guys,

I have been taking pheraplex for a little over two weeks now, and have drank twice while on cycle. The first time I drank was after 7 days on cycle, I had about 8 beers. The second time I drank was this past weekend, when I had about 12 beers and 1/4 of a fifth. I did a few beer bongs as well. Sunday when I woke up I felt fine, but I knew I should not have drank and that my liver might be hurting, so I didnt dose until sunday night around midnight. I woke up around 7 a.m. and my abdominal area had a dull pain. It wasn't like I was going to throw up, it was a different type of pain. I managed to get back to sleep, and woke up around noon again. The abdominal pain was gone, I felt much better. I decided to take another phera this afternoon around 1 pm, and I have had pain around my rib cage area. I cant tell if its more in the center, or to the right, but its definitely not on the left side of my body. I have done a little research, and it sounds alot like my liver could be swollen up or something. I was wondering if you guys had any advice for me on what I should do at this point. Obviously I will not be drinking the rest of the cycle. The pain isnt really that bad, just more discomfort than anything else. I just really want to avoid any long term damage to my liver and was hoping you guys could give me some advice. Right now I am taking two doses of cycle support per day, and also taking SAMe 800mg/day.

I know this was extremely stupid of me to do, but at this point I don't need to be told how dumb it was. I am looking for some solid advice.

Thanks guys
 
gocubbies73 said:
thanks? really appreciate your help
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My bad bro! :cheers:

I've drank while on methyl cycles before. M1T, M1T + ____ (insert other methyl) :frustrate: . I used to be quite the binge drinker too. M1T is considered bar none the harshest of the legal (or once legal) methyls. I've never felt my liver hurting or anything. I've seen enzyme #'s really high (AST, ALT, LDH) and HDL really low, but never experienced liver pain.

There are many reasons for abdominal discomfort. The whole "liver pain" thing could very well be in your head. Could be legit too. You really need to try to figure out what the origin of your pain/discomfort is. If it doesn't go away, and you really think it is your liver, stop with the cycle immediately and see a doctor. Your long term health is much, MUCH more important than this cycle here and now.
 
supersoldier said:
My bad bro! :cheers:

I've drank while on methyl cycles before. M1T, M1T + ____ (insert other methyl) :frustrate: . I used to be quite the binge drinker too. M1T is considered bar none the harshest of the legal (or once legal) methyls. I've never felt my liver hurting or anything. I've seen enzyme #'s really high (AST, ALT, LDH) and HDL really low, but never experienced liver pain.

There are many reasons for abdominal discomfort. The whole "liver pain" thing could very well be in your head. Could be legit too. You really need to try to figure out what the origin of your pain/discomfort is. If it doesn't go away, and you really think it is your liver, stop with the cycle immediately and see a doctor. Your long term health is much, MUCH more important than this cycle here and now.
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Well, if I did stop the cycle, nolva is liver toxic as well.....kind of leaves me in a tough situation. I hope it is all in my head, and considering my liver didnt hurt the day after all the drinking, it very well could be
 
Are you experiencing any other symptoms (yellowing of the eyes, yellowing of the skin, discolored stool, fever, tenderness to the touch of any part of your abdomen, etc)?
 
yeahright said:
Are you experiencing any other symptoms (yellowing of the eyes, yellowing of the skin, discolored stool, fever, tenderness to the touch of any part of your abdomen, etc)?
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i dont think i have a fever, i havent taken my temperature. i feel a little hot, and have been really tired and feel worn out today. i still managed to make it to the gym, and had a damn good chest workout....
 
i drank a lot on a m1t cycle before when i wasn't 21 yet either, but didn't have any visible liver sides, although i am sure the values were probably disgusting. :rant: if you are really concerned, my guess would be the best thing to do is try to pay up and get bloodwork done. My guess is your mind will start playing tricks on you and your sides will be exaggerated in your head the more you read about them. I'm not gonna sit here and criticize you because I have done the same thing before, but I really wouldn't recommend drinking on a methyl, especially not heavily. If you wanna do it, I would go the non-methyl or injectable route. Sounds like you are prob in college, if you wanna run a methyl I would say save it for the time of year where you are less likely to drink...unless you are in high school, then you are opening up a whole nother can of worms here
 
A swollen liver is easily palpated.
Stick your fingers up under your ribs on the right side, but more to the side. See if you feel a mass. Or you may experience a sharp pain that will take your breath away.
 
warnerve said:
i drank a lot on a m1t cycle before when i wasn't 21 yet either, but didn't have any visible liver sides, although i am sure the values were probably disgusting. :rant: if you are really concerned, my guess would be the best thing to do is try to pay up and get bloodwork done. My guess is your mind will start playing tricks on you and your sides will be exaggerated in your head the more you read about them. I'm not gonna sit here and criticize you because I have done the same thing before, but I really wouldn't recommend drinking on a methyl, especially not heavily. If you wanna do it, I would go the non-methyl or injectable route. Sounds like you are prob in college, if you wanna run a methyl I would say save it for the time of year where you are less likely to drink...unless you are in high school, then you are opening up a whole nother can of worms here
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yes, I am a college student. thanks for the encouragement.....i hope it is all in my head. if these symptoms are still around in the next 2-3 days I will take it from there i guess.
 
grantr said:
I don't understand why you can't just not drink? Drinking is so over rated and especially the health risks it imposes on you while on cycle...If you can't give up drinking then I wouldn't suggest cycling, thats just plain disrespect for yourself
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everyone has a right to there own opinion. personally, i enjoy drinking very much. you are correct though, while on cycle this is clearly not a good idea. i wish i wouldnt have done it, but i did.....
 
ya, like i said, i have def been there too. gotta be careful and i wouldn't recommend it, but at the same time from what i have seen liver damage is more of a gradual thing than two nights of drinking. if the sides persist, go to the doctor. even if nothing happens, the risk/stress of wanting to drink with a methyl bugs me a lot, it's really best to either look into a less liver toxic alternative or an alternative to alcohol if you are so inclined
 
I'd make sure you keep drinking to excess. Just remember - if you drive, try to only kill yourself and not anybody else.

In the words of Arnold, "A champion physique isn't built on pizza and beer".

Why would you be on steroids when you are wrecking your body with alcohol?
 
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