Life after High Volume?

eddieSt.james

eddieSt.james

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I've been a fan of this pwo for over a year. I think I've run my course with it, though. Any reccos, guys? I'd rather go no stim unless there's something out there that doesn't give me a crazy crash. Thoughts?
 
I definitely was sad when i ran out of HV lol. Non-stim for me is just bulk products from places like SNS, iForce, or SAN. I use a lot of agmatine, KNO3, beta alanine, and citrulline/malate. Simple and effective.
 
You can try that, but I've only noticed that plateau effect really coming from stim products. Has it been quite a while since this happened because sometimes I have off days or weeks?
 
Yeah it's been a month or so. Seems like it just makes me tired now. Weird I know. Maybe something else is going on. Either way, I feel like I want to switch it up.
 
eddieSt.james said:
Yeah it's been a month or so. Seems like it just makes me tired now. Weird I know. Maybe something else is going on. Either way, I feel like I want to switch it up.
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You can develop tolerance to nitrates, but the arginine component is supposed to help mitigate that. Beyond that, nothing in HV should really attenuate over time -- some of the ingredients actually have cumulative effects.

Feeling tired makes it sound like you're going a little hypotensive. Anything else lowering your blood pressure a bit? I know if I take a bunch of nitrates without a BP-raising stim, I end up tanking hard (measured at 89/55 one time!) and even get dizzy/dim-visioned.
 
I also stopped getting the pumps from it and found that I respond best to glycerol. Two or 3 servings of GlycerGrow2 bring the most ridiculous and dense pump without fail every time.
 
You could try stacking noxygen, citrulline, and 4d pump. I love that stack.
 
eddieSt.james said:
I've been a fan of this pwo for over a year. I think I've run my course with it, though. Any reccos, guys? I'd rather go no stim unless there's something out there that doesn't give me a crazy crash. Thoughts?
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eddieSt.james said:
I didn't mean to say I've run out of it. I feel like I don't get the effect I used to. Do I just need a break from it?
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How long have you been running High Volume and/or Nitrates?
 
Nyrin said:
You can develop tolerance to nitrates, but the arginine component is supposed to help mitigate that. Beyond that, nothing in HV should really attenuate over time -- some of the ingredients actually have cumulative effects.

Feeling tired makes it sound like you're going a little hypotensive. Anything else lowering your blood pressure a bit? I know if I take a bunch of nitrates without a BP-raising stim, I end up tanking hard (measured at 89/55 one time!) and even get dizzy/dim-visioned.
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is there any solid data on Nitrate tolerance?

We haven't found solid data.

Please send if you have.

thanks
 
Gotta try this.... been using a build your own pwo and I'm missing a one/two scoop and go premix.
 
eddieSt.james said:
Just over a year, I'd say. Got into it when it belonged to Athletix.
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There weren't any nitrates contained under Athletix, but if you've been running it since PEScience took it over, you're well overdue from a nitrate break.
 
Can i assume that the product high volume leads to a blood pressure reduction and therefore also is a good cycle support? How much BP reduction could be expected? No problems with the Combo of citrulline and agmatine as read in examine.com?
 
uubiduu said:
Can i assume that the product high volume leads to a blood pressure reduction and therefore also is a good cycle support? How much BP reduction could be expected? No problems with the Combo of citrulline and agmatine as read in examine.com?
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I wouldn't recommend it as cycle suport, but yes it would lower your BP. It is hard to quantify the amount of reduction, and yes, examine is not a good source for everything. There is nothing wrong with combining citruilline and agmatine.
 
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