LGI MSTEN/EPI Cycle

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Done a bunch of cycles before (SD, Pplex, tren, epi, few bridges). Looking for lean gains on this slow bulk. Going to use this dosing layout unless you guys think it's a bad set-up or Msten solo would actually be better:

Msten: 20/30/30/30/30
Epi: 0/ 0/ 0/40 /45/45/45/45

8 weeks total, overlapping in the 4th and/or 5th week depending how it feels. Will be using TUDCA and AI Cycle support and for PCT Clomid + Alphamax XT.

Look alright? Any suggestions?
 
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Not a big fan of stacking methyls, but that’s your choice, and your cycle supports are pretty solid. Everything looks good though, although after 8 weeks you might experience some lethargy, so a test base might be worth considering.
 
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What does clomid. Msten in my experience from blood tests is a hard shutdown.
 
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Not a big fan of stacking methyls, but that’s your choice, and your cycle supports are pretty solid. Everything looks good though, although after 8 weeks you might experience some lethargy, so a test base might be worth considering.
Thanks. You think a solo Msten cycle might be better? It’s been 2/3 years since my last cycle but there were some thoughts that running the bridge helped retain/dry up any gains. Not sure if that’s still the case
 
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What does clomid. Msten in my experience from blood tests is a hard shutdown.
Sorry man confused with that first sentence (maybe a typo). Is clomid not the right choice? I feel like I always recovered quicker with clomid than nolva
 
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Sorry man confused with that first sentence (maybe a typo). Is clomid not the right choice? I feel like I always recovered quicker with clomid than nolva
I think he meant to ask what dosage of clomid
 
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Sorry man confused with that first sentence (maybe a typo). Is clomid not the right choice? I feel like I always recovered quicker with clomid than nolva
He meant what dose?
 
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Thanks. You think a solo Msten cycle might be better? It’s been 2/3 years since my last cycle but there were some thoughts that running the bridge helped retain/dry up any gains. Not sure if that’s still the case
Solo msten would probably be enough since you haven’t ran anything in such a good amount of time, but the decision is yours to make
 
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I think he meant to ask what dosage of clomid
Stupid me, thanks guys. Usually run the clomid 50/50/25/25 with the first day or two at 100mg. Let me know if that looks solid.

I’ll usually add in the natural T booster in week 2
 
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Stupid me, thanks guys. Usually run the clomid 50/50/25/25 with the first day or two at 100mg. Let me know if that looks solid.

I’ll usually add in the natural T booster in week 2
50/50/25/25 is perfect
 
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You guys the best as always. I’ll plan for a msten only cycle as you’re right it’s been a while since my last cycle. 6 weeks on msten at around 30 sound solid?
 
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You guys the best as always. I’ll plan for a msten only cycle as you’re right it’s been a while since my last cycle. 6 weeks on msten at around 30 sound solid?
Yup, sounds good man
 
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Last questions about support supps

1) Is dosing 1000mg daily of CEL TUDCA too much? I'd split it up 500mg morning and 500mg night
2) Should I dose the TUDCA away from CEL cycle assist and MSTEN? I kind of recall reading dosing the liver protectant like TUDCA negates some of the effect when dosing at the same time? Ok to dose MSTEN and cycle assist together?

Thanks!
 
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Stupid me, thanks guys. Usually run the clomid 50/50/25/25 with the first day or two at 100mg. Let me know if that looks solid.

I’ll usually add in the natural T booster in week 2
I'd add in an AI there have been a lot of cases of rebound gyno on epi
 
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I'd add in an AI there have been a lot of cases of rebound gyno on epi
Thanks man, decided to switch to 6ish weeks of msten solo based on recommendations above. Appreciate it tho
 

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