LGD Testosteron

Kevnev

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I read in several posts that when you take lgd , your testosterone level drops .
Is it true that you also should therefore take testosterone ?
I mean what is the use of lgd if you have no desire to go to the gym .
 
Kevnev said:
I read in several posts that when you take lgd , your testosterone level drops .
Is it true that you also should therefore take testosterone ?
I mean what is the use of lgd if you have no desire to go to the gym .
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Your natural testosterone production will get suppressed, but that's why you do a full PCT with A SERM to kickstart your body's production again post cycle.
Regards having testosterone whilst on cycle, that's why it's recommended to take a Test Base. Test Bases will convert into testosterone via conversion and act as testosterone, which helps with things like lethargy, libido, motivation etc.
Or you could just take straight testosterone, it's up to you.
 
InItForGainz said:
Your natural testosterone production will get suppressed, but that's why you do a full PCT with A SERM to kickstart your body's production again post cycle.
Regards having testosterone whilst on cycle, that's why it's recommended to take a Test Base. Test Bases will convert into testosterone via conversion and act as testosterone, which helps with things like lethargy, libido, motivation etc.
Or you could just take straight testosterone, it's up to you.
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Thanks for the answer. For my pct i have ordered clomid + super pct from olym. Lab.
However, I did not know that I additionally need a Test base on cycle.
What do you recommend? Maybe Andro 4?
Am i right , that I need now additionally nolva for the pct, because of the test base?
 
Kevnev said:
Thanks for the answer. For my pct i have ordered clomid + super pct from olym. Lab.
However, I did not know that I additionally need a Test base on cycle.
What do you recommend? Maybe Andro 4?
Am i right , that I need now additionally nolva for the pct, because of the test base?
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Although Test Bases are used for the same purposes (prevention of lethargy etc), they all have additional pros and cons. Which Test Base you use depends on your goals. I'll outline the top three for you though...
DHEA
(BPS Dermacrine, Olympus Labs Sup3r-DHEA)
Standard Test Base, will help with mood, lethargy, libido and joints. However, it wont substantially increase gains in either muscle gain or fat loss. This is a good beginner Test Base as sides will be minimal.

4-Andro
(Olympus Labs Sup3r-4, HardRock Mandro The Giant)
This is the wet Test base, will help with mood, lethargy, libido, joints, Alpha Male Feeling and is great for adding size. However, it does have a slight conversion to estrogen as well as it does testosterone. This could cause sides such as water retention, bloat, gyno etc. If you choose this as your Test Base you'll need a pharma grade AI just incase sides show up. Aromasin/Exemestane would be a good choice for pharma grade AI.

Epi-Andro (DHT Base)
This is a dry Test Base, will help with mood, lethargy, libido, cutting/shredding body fat and water, Alpha Male Feeling and aggression and power in the gym. However, this does have the tendancy to be hard on your joints as it has anti-estrogenic proporties which could dry out your joints. If you choose this as your Test Base you'll want some serious joint support supps. Animal Flex and high doses of Omega 3 oils are good choices.
 
Puh I never thought that there are so many things that have to be observed
So thank you verry much.

I can only get 4 andro or epi. So it will be 4-andro. Can I take it 8 weeks at 300mg , or rather six weeks ?

I have correctly understood that I should take the AI only by sides, right? And then till the end of the cycle.
Is the product PES Erase Pro recommended as an AI ? And should i also take TUDCA ?

EDIT:
I just read that Tamoxifen has the same effect as aromasin. And Tamoxifen i have already.
I also read in a post from you that you recommend Olym Labs - AR1MACARE .
Should i use it the whole cycle over or are the last 4 weeks enough?
 
Kevnev said:
Puh I never thought that there are so many things that have to be observed
So thank you verry much.

I can only get 4 andro or epi. So it will be 4-andro. Can I take it 8 weeks at 300mg , or rather six weeks ?

I have correctly understood that I should take the AI only by sides, right? And then till the end of the cycle.
Is the product PES Erase Pro recommended as an AI ? And should i also take TUDCA ?

EDIT:
I just read that Tamoxifen has the same effect as aromasin. And Tamoxifen i have already.
I also read in a post from you that you recommend Olym Labs - AR1MACARE .
Should i use it the whole cycle over or are the last 4 weeks enough?
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Go 8 weeks. And run your Ar1macare the entire cycle.
 
Kevnev said:
Puh I never thought that there are so many things that have to be observed
So thank you verry much.

I can only get 4 andro or epi. So it will be 4-andro. Can I take it 8 weeks at 300mg , or rather six weeks ?

I have correctly understood that I should take the AI only by sides, right? And then till the end of the cycle.
Is the product PES Erase Pro recommended as an AI ? And should i also take TUDCA ?

EDIT:
I just read that Tamoxifen has the same effect as aromasin. And Tamoxifen i have already.
I also read in a post from you that you recommend Olym Labs - AR1MACARE .
Should i use it the whole cycle over or are the last 4 weeks enough?
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Go the full 8 weeks to really reap the benefits from your cycle. I'd do
LGD
4/8/8/8/8/8/8/8
4-Andro
200/300/300/300/300/300/300/300
Ar1macare Pro
8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8

You should only use your pharma grade AI in emergencies, high estrogen is bad but very low estrogen is just as bad for you...And you gains. If you do start to get sides (sensitive nipples, abnormal water retention, bloat etc) then impliment the AI. Aromasin at 6.25ED should suffice for 4-Andro sides if they should arise.

Nolva isn't an AI, it's a SERM, and although it can act as an estrogen and ward off gyno it shouldn't take the place of a real AI.
 
I would take Dermacrine by BPS over 4 andro, you don't have to worry about estro sides or water retention and I think it does a better job of keeping my libido up and lethargy away.
 
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