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LGD/Epi/FD2/MK677 Recomp Log

Just counted.. 19 pills so 6 days. I'm gonna up it tomorrow and dose dermacrine if I run out before it gets here... At least I'll give my skin a lil breather
 
Day 45. Weight 178.8. 1.5hrs AM weights

Chest & Arms

Flat DBP: 55x12, 65x10, 65x10, 55x10

Incline DBP: 50x10, 50x10, 50x10, 55x8

Landmines: 35x15, 55x12, 55x12

Incline Flies: 35x12, 25x15, 25x15

Decline Push-ups: 4 sets of 15

Arms:

Incline Alt Curls: 30x10, 30x10

Cable Rope Curls: 50x10, 50x10

Preachers: 85x6, 65x12, 65x12

Hammers: 30x12, 30x12

Skullcrushers: 85x10, 85x10, 65x15

Kickbacks: 50x12, 65x10

Tri Pdwns: 55x12, 45x15, 45x15


MK677 is definitely helping my shoulder!! Normally I can't do incline flies without substantial discomfort; today it felt much better and I noticed that I have a little more flexibility in the joint. Also, last couple of days I've been waking up on my right side, which is weird cause I haven't sleep on my right shoulder in years.
 
Day 46. Weight 179.8. 30min AM walk; 1hr20min afternoon weights.


Legs & Abs:

Squats: 135x8, 185x5, 225x3, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1(partial), 315x3, 275x6, 225x10

Lying Leg Curls: 125x8, 125x6, 100x10, 100x10, 100x10, 85x12, 75x12

Leg Extensions: 145x10, 145x10, 125x12, 125x10, 100x10

Ham-Glute Raises: 4 sets of 4

Hip Thrusts: 185x12, BWx100

Ab routine


I'm getting out of cardio shape for sure.. Noticed it on my morning walk. I'm considering adding GW to my PCT, though am somewhat afraid of the compound with all the conflicting studies. Anyone have any experience with GW during PCT?
 
I've used GW generally, I didn't care for it in general. I saw practically nothing from it but try it out and see for yourself. It definitely increased my cardiovascular endurance but not worth the low blood sugar.
 
CJNator said:
I've used GW generally, I didn't care for it in general. I saw practically nothing from it but try it out and see for yourself. It definitely increased my cardiovascular endurance but not worth the low blood sugar.
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From what I've read, people either love it or think it's a waste of money. It seems like it would help HDL bounce back faster but I'm concerned about the liver scarring... Especially after running methyls.
 
mmorso said:
From what I've read, people either love it or think it's a waste of money. It seems like it would help HDL bounce back faster but I'm concerned about the liver scarring... Especially after running methyls.
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I did get some minor blood work and it did lower cholesterol levels all around. I honestly don't think it would be as hepatotoxic as any AAS, PH or SARM but maybe take TUDCA(probably spelt it wrong) along side it.
 
Day 47. Weight 178.4. 1hr45mins AM weights; 30min PM walk (later)

Back & Shoulders:


WG Pdwns: 95x12, 95x12, 105x10, 105x10, 85x12, 65x20

VG Pdwns: 105x10, 115x10, 115x10, 85x15

Seated Rows: 110x12, 140x10, 140x10, 160x12, 160x12

Deads: 135x8, 185x5, 225x3, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1, 315x4, 275x8

Tire Flip: 3 sets of 5

T-Bar Rows: 90x12, 135x10, 135x10

Seatbelts: 55x10, 55x10, 55x10

BB Shrugs: 135x30, 225x12, 225x12, 225x12, 135x15

Rear BB Shrugs: 135x20, 135x20

Face-pulls: 45x15, 45x15, 45x12

DB BO Lateral Raise: 30x12, 30x12, 30x12

DB Lateral Raise: 15x20, 15x20

EZ Front Raise: 35x10, 35x10, 35x10


Feeling good!! Idk if the dimeth is kicking in a little or what, but I woke up ready to hit the gym and had great motivation/energy...
 
jmaplewood said:
Damn man that's a lot of work! BTW what are seat belts?
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I've heard them only called "seatbelts," but am sure there is another name for the exercise.

You take a dumbbell in each hand and sit on the end of a bench. Start with the dumbbell on your lap and lower it beneath your ass, clicking them together... Then raise the dumbbell up above your lap, clicking them together..

The movement resembles clicking a seatbelt.. It can be described as a seated upright row with dumbbells, I guess..
 
Hey man I looked back a few pages and didn't see anything. You tried flat bench press(bar) lately to check for progression from using dumbbells?
 
Rndmher said:
Hey man I looked back a few pages and didn't see anything. You tried flat bench press(bar) lately to check for progression from using dumbbells?
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No I haven't yet. I might max out in Sunday to see what's going on..

My chest feels much fuller though
 
You really don't want to "max out" very often. I got stuck in the rut of doing that forever when I first benched 315. I thought it was so cool to bench 315 that all I did for probably a month was just pyramid up to 315 and hit it for a single. The problem is, I lterally made no gains that whole month. It was also at the same time I tried deadlifting 405. For probably a whole month I went into the gym and just did some light sets pyramiding up to 405 for a single. Literally made no gains at all. Finally I went back to doing reps, and at the end of that month I got my 5 rep max up to 295 on bench, and when I maxed out on deadlift I pulled 435.

Basically what I'm saying is, stick to doing reps, that's where you get the results for not only size but also strength. I got stuck in the rut of trying to hit a certain number and continually tried to hit it and basically wasted a whole month of training and got no results.
 
Well it depends it's been like three weeks. Like how many reps your doing but I would imagine working sets

Just to give you idea I do 5x5 on bench right now twice a week and go up about 5-10 lb a week. Just Everytime I bench I add 2.5lb each side. If I fail I try again next bench day and if I fail then I take it off until I get better with the lighter weight. BUT that's only happened once in my several years of lifting
 
Brandaddy said:
You really don't want to "max out" very often. I got stuck in the rut of doing that forever when I first benched 315. I thought it was so cool to bench 315 that all I did for probably a month was just pyramid up to 315 and hit it for a single. The problem is, I lterally made no gains that whole month. It was also at the same time I tried deadlifting 405. For probably a whole month I went into the gym and just did some light sets pyramiding up to 405 for a single. Literally made no gains at all. Finally I went back to doing reps, and at the end of that month I got my 5 rep max up to 295 on bench, and when I maxed out on deadlift I pulled 435.

Basically what I'm saying is, stick to doing reps, that's where you get the results for not only size but also strength. I got stuck in the rut of trying to hit a certain number and continually tried to hit it and basically wasted a whole month of training and got no results.
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Lol that's what I've been doing with deads: pyramiding up to my 1RM and then trying to hit reps on the way back down. I kinda use the pyramid as a warm up cause hitting 315 for 3-5 reps is easier after hitting 365 for 1... Only thing is that I'm beat after hitting my 1RM.. I might pyramid a lil below my 1RM and start hitting reps.
 
Rndmher said:
...stick to 8-10 reps and then switch about every 8 weeks to 5 sets of 5.
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Hey man I was rereading my log to see where my bench was at and came across this comment that you made a month ago...

When talking about switching sets and rep schemes every 8 wks, what would that look like insofar as weight is concerned? When doing 5x5, are you hitting failure at 5 reps and isn't that still a low rep range for hypertrophy? Just trying to learn bro...
 
mmorso said:
Lol that's what I've been doing with deads: pyramiding up to my 1RM and then trying to hit reps on the way back down. I kinda use the pyramid as a warm up cause hitting 315 for 3-5 reps is easier after hitting 365 for 1... Only thing is that I'm beat after hitting my 1RM.. I might pyramid a lil below my 1RM and start hitting reps.
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Yeah, it might not feel like much physically at only 385lbs. It's your cns that will hold you back though. Whether you're going for strength or size, maxing out is never optimal. Check out one of the many logs from powrrlifters on this forum. When they're prepping for a 600lbs squat, they'll rarely even do an actually competition style squat of 500+lbs. Most of their work will be in the 450 - 500lbs range. If they go above 500lbs, they'll probably be using bands.

Just trying to give you some advice to help you hit those big numbers. Lol. I know the frustration of wanting to hit a certain number when you're really close to it. Best thing to do though is just keep putting in quality reps, before you know it you'll be repping out the weight that you used to wish was your 1rm.
 
Day 48. Weight 179.6. 1hr10mins afternoon lifting

Chest & Arms:

Flat BBP: 135x8, 185x5(PR), 225x1(PR), 235x1(assisted), 205x3(PR), 185x6, 185x4, 185x3, 155x8

Flies: 40x12, 40x12, 40x12, 40x12

Arms:

Preachers: 75x10, 75x10, 65x12

Cable Rope: 50x12, 50x12

Hammers: 27.5x12, 27.5x12

Incline Alt Curls: 30x10, 25x12

Skullcrushers: 85x12, 85x12, 65x15

Tri Pdwns: 55x12, 45x12, 45x12

Kickbacks: 50x12, 60x12


Hell yeah!!! Finally broke my 6 month PR on bench. I've gotten 225 with a spot before, but today it was a nice clean rep. I felt like I could have done 2 reps but wanted to add more weight. I needed a spot to get the bar off my chest at 235.

My previous weight range for sets of 5 was 155; today 185 for 5 felt very comfortable. I'm crazy surprised by getting a 30lb increase on bench in 3 weeks!!! That's insane. So thanks Rndmher, Brandaddy, & Brandinooooo for all the suggestions..

I'm sticking with dumbbell presses for a while... I actually felt less of a pec workout today than I've been getting in the last few weeks. My triceps are burning though...

I'm gonna lower my Epi dose back to 500mg: my hair is shedding way too much it's obnoxious! I did start the Laxogenin today and will continue it through pct.
 
mmorso said:
Honestly, I've been holding off till the ban is in effect... I'll end up loving the sht and buying a year supply. Btw, does opiate use effect muscle protein synthesis?
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I'm not sure but at the least, it will slow it down. I can check real quick.

Edit: I do know they reduce test levels. Kratom didn't for me though.
 
Brandinooooo said:
I'm not sure but at the least, it will slow it down. I can check real quick.

Edit: I do know they reduce test levels.
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By the end of this cycle I'll be bald, impotent, have liver damage & high cholesterol, have gained all the fat I lost during this summers cut, and will be strung out on Kratom....

I will have, however, marginally improved my bench and that will make it all worth while.
 
mmorso said:
By the end of this cycle I'll be bald, impotent, have liver damage & high cholesterol, have gained all the fat I lost during this summers cut, and will be strung out on Kratom....

I will have, however, marginally improved my bench and that will make it all worth while.
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Lmao.
 
Brandinooooo said:
Lmao.
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Yeah so I took around 5g of green Malay around 20mins ago and can feel it kicking in slightly. I mixed it with water and drank it.. Not as nasty as I thought it'd be...if I take more right now, you think it would be a waste? And how long does the buzz last? Same as all opiates?
 
mmorso said:
Yeah so I took around 5g of green Malay around 20mins ago and can feel it kicking in slightly. I mixed it with water and drank it.. Not as nasty as I thought it'd be...if I take more right now, you think it would be a waste? And how long does the buzz last? Same as all opiates?
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A few hours. if you can already feel it, don't take any more so you can get a feel for it.
 
Brandinooooo said:
A few hours. if you can already feel it, don't take any more so you can get a feel for it.
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Yeah. Kratom is legit. I'm buying more tomorrow.

Now the problem is that I wanna to drink some beers. I can't wait to be off cycle so I can have the occasional drink. I was dry all summer cause i was on a cut.
 
mmorso said:
Yeah. Kratom is legit. I'm buying more tomorrow.

Now the problem is that I wanna to drink some beers. I can't wait to be off cycle so I can have the occasional drink. I was dry all summer cause i was on a cut.
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Lol. Kratom + alcohol for me is me nodded off on the couch.
 
Brandaddy said:
Yeah, it might not feel like much physically at only 385lbs. It's your cns that will hold you back though. Whether you're going for strength or size, maxing out is never optimal. Check out one of the many logs from powrrlifters on this forum. When they're prepping for a 600lbs squat, they'll rarely even do an actually competition style squat of 500+lbs. Most of their work will be in the 450 - 500lbs range. If they go above 500lbs, they'll probably be using bands.

Just trying to give you some advice to help you hit those big numbers. Lol. I know the frustration of wanting to hit a certain number when you're really close to it. Best thing to do though is just keep putting in quality reps, before you know it you'll be repping out the weight that you used to wish was your 1rm.
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Hey bro, in your test log I've noticed that you work in percentages of your 1RM.. I've seen you write that you did something like 3x8 at 75%... Sometimes you hit 80%, etc.

I'm assuming that different percentages of the 1RM are more suited for strength, or endurance, or size gains... What % of my 1RM should I be working in for reps to get more strength?
 
You want a varying range. A very simple answer why is,

If all you do is 4x4 at 85%, say your triceps start holding you back, it's because at that low of reps, they don't get stimulated enough to grow along such a powerful fast twitch muscle like your chest. Therefore mixing it up and working in an 8 rep range, you get a chance for your triceps to do some catch up, which will actually transfer over to helping increase your 1rm. Now one might think, "Well why wouldn't I just do a bunch of skull crushers, or French presses if my triceps need to get stronger?". Well, it's simple. Your cns gets used to a certain movement pattern, so although you can do cable pulldowns with the whole stack for 20 reps doesn't mean you'll be able to lay down on the bench and put up 405. Simply put, if you want to get good at running, you don't walk, you run. It's the same thing with bench. If you want to get good at bench, you bench. That's why you'll see a lot of powerlifters if they need to strengthen their chest, they might do pause reps, or reverse bands. If they need to strengthen their triceps they might do board presses or floor presses. Basically what they're doing is strengthening their triceps, but with a motion that will directly transfer over into the lift you're doing it for. Personally I get good enough results from just changing heavy/medium/light days. As soon as that doesn't cut it, I very well may switch things up.
 
It's funny because I started with, "a very simple answer is" then I continued with a detailed 50 page report. Lol
 
mmorso said:
I appreciate it brother... The CNS is a b1tch.. Lol.
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Yes, i would love to just sit in the gym all day if I could, but unfortunately you'd do more bad than good. That's why we do roids though. Lol. Helps you be able to spend that extra time on the gym.
 
Brandaddy said:
Yes, i would love to just sit in the gym all day if I could, but unfortunately you'd do more bad than good. That's why we do roids though. Lol. Helps you be able to spend that extra time on the gym.
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Honestly, I was maxing out like that on my deads cause I thought being on gear would allow me to.
 
Day 49. Rest day.


Work is about to get busy with rounding up cattle and then doing a long ass 2 day cattle drive. I'm resting up today and am gonna also take tomorrow off. I think I'm gonna back off on working legs this week... Hopefully I can get into the gym a couple times to hit back and chest.
 
mmorso said:
Day 49. Rest day.


Work is about to get busy with rounding up cattle and then doing a long ass 2 day cattle drive. I'm resting up today and am gonna also take tomorrow off. I think I'm gonna back off on working legs this week... Hopefully I can get into the gym a couple times to hit back and chest.
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May be one of the most manly comments I've ever read
 
mmorso said:
Day 49. Rest day.


Work is about to get busy with rounding up cattle and then doing a long ass 2 day cattle drive. I'm resting up today and am gonna also take tomorrow off. I think I'm gonna back off on working legs this week... Hopefully I can get into the gym a couple times to hit back and chest.
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Just press the calfs. Lol and then try not to get stampled by the bulls.
 
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