LGD/Epi/FD2/MK677 Recomp Log

Brandaddy said:
Hey, I lost 70 lbs also. Lol. Well actually 77 to be exact. Ha. I've gained it all back though. Lost 77lbs in 6 months, then gained it back in 12.
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Crazy.. Gained 77 lbs in 1 year? How many cycles did you run? Just the one your running now or what?
 
Oh. Lol. I thought you said calories. Ha! Cycles, yeah, just the one I'm on now. I was already a decently lean 190 before I even got on it. So I gained a good 50lbs naturally
 
Brandaddy said:
Oh. Lol. I thought you said calories. Ha! Cycles, yeah, just the one I'm on now. I was already a decently lean 190 before I even got on it. So I gained a good 50lbs naturally
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That's insane bro... 50lbs of LBM in one year naturally! And your not a newbie...
 
mmorso said:
That's insane bro... 50lbs of LBM in one year naturally! And your not a newbie...
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Oh, I'm definitely pretty new. Lol. Just a mixture of genetics and work ethic. I don't usually tell people my experience level because it will arise a lot of questions I don't feel like answering. So if people assume I'm not a noob because my numbers, then so be it. Lol
 
Brandaddy said:
Oh, I'm definitely pretty new. Lol. Just a mixture of genetics and work ethic. I don't usually tell people my experience level because it will arise a lot of questions I don't feel like answering. So if people assume I'm not a noob because my numbers, then so be it. Lol
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Well bro you definitely have your sh1t dialed in from a diet and training perspective to be able to reach those goals!! I've figured out what I need to do to lose fat, but am finding that gaining quality mass is unbelievably challenging. I think I'm insulin resistant, cause any time I am eating moderate amount of carbs (~200 grams) I gain BF.. After this cycle I'm going to play around with diet and get my macros dialed in so I can find what works best for me...
 
mmorso said:
Well bro you definitely have your sh1t dialed in from a diet and training perspective to be able to reach those goals!! I've figured out what I need to do to lose fat, but am finding that gaining quality mass is unbelievably challenging. I think I'm insulin resistant, cause any time I am eating moderate amount of carbs (~200 grams) I gain BF.. After this cycle I'm going to play around with diet and get my macros dialed in so I can find what works best for me...
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GDA's and nutrient partitioners are an insulin resistant person's friend's.
 
Day 36. Rest day.

I got my dbol today.. I'm getting excited to try it and will work chest and arms tomorrow to see what it's about.
 
I thought it was good, let me know what you think of it. Honestly at 30mg's a day I gained almost 20lbs in 2 weeks. I looked a bit like a beached whale though. Lol
 
Brandaddy said:
I thought it was good, let me know what you think of it. Honestly at 30mg's a day I gained almost 20lbs in 2 weeks. I looked a bit like a beached whale though. Lol
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I don't know if I'll get those results bro. Im taking it every other day, preworkout only. I'm worried to actually cycle it cause The1 is a methyl and I don't wanna dose an AI. Im curious as to how it'll work pulsing it though...
 
I would've personally just waited until you could run it every day and get the full effects. I've never researched any real science behind diminishing returns, but it seems pretty dang real and it would suck if it messed up your chances to get that 20lbs in 2 weeks off a 30mg dose.
 
Brandaddy said:
I would've personally just waited until you could run it every day and get the full effects. I've never researched any real science behind diminishing returns, but it seems pretty dang real and it would suck if it messed up your chances to get that 20lbs in 2 weeks off a 30mg dose.
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Yeah I was gonna save it for a kicker to a test cycle down the road... But I'm super curious about this dbol "euphoria" I've read about and wanna see what's up with it. I'm gonna pulse a few caps then save the rest for the future.
 
Granted I used to do mdma, and cocaine everyday for months. Yet, the euphoria wasn't really anything special. Lol. Most notably I just wasn't lethargic all the time like most other orals seem to make you. I didn't have like an ecstasy like high or anything though.
 
Day 37. Weight 176. 1hr20mins AM lifting; 20min afternoon ab routine.

Chest & Arms

Flat DBP: 55x12, 55x12, 60x10, 60x10, 65x10

Incline DBP: 45x10, 45x10, 45x10

Landmines: 45x12, 45x12

Arms:

WG EZ Curl: 65x12, 65x12

Incline Alt DB Curls: 30x9, 27.5x12

Preachers: 75x10, 65x12

Hammers: 30x12, 30x12

Skullcrushers: 85x12, 65x15


I popped 20mgs of dbol an hour before hitting the gym.. Didn't notice much by way of strength, but it did seem that my arms got pumped much faster than they usually do..

My upper chest is unbelievably week and I need to start prioritizing incline movements. This is probably a main factor holding up my bench progression... My shoulder feels great at the moment so I'm gonna try and take advantage.
 
Day 38. Weight 174.6. 1hr10mins afternoon weights

Legs:

Squats: 135x10, 185x10, 225x8, 225x8, 225x8, 185x10, 185x10

Lying Leg Curls: 125x8, 125x6, 110x8, 100x10, 100x10, 85x14

Goblet Squats: 65x15, 65x15, 65x15

Leg Extensions: 125x10, 125x10, 110x10, 100x10, 100x10

Ham-Glute Raises: 3 sets of 4

Abs


Great leg session today!!! I snuck out of work at noon to hit the gym and was in a hurry so I really was able to get my heart rate up the entire workout, rushing between sets.

I'm happy with my hamstring progression; a few months ago curling 75lbs was taxing and now I'm repping 50lbs more.. My quad development is coming along too; I'm starting to get a pronounced double knee from pointing my toes out on leg extensions.

I'm gonna dose some dbol before back tomorrow and am going to max out on my deadlifts. I'm gonna try and break my 365 PR. I'm hoping to get 385...
 
Day 39. 177.6. 1.5hrs AM weights; 30min PM walk (later)


Back & Shoulders:

WG Pdwn: 95x12, 105x10, 105x10, 105x10, 105x10

VG Pdwn: 105x10, 105x10, 115x10

WG Seated Cable Row: 140x10, 140x10, 140x10

Deads: 135x8, 185x5, 225x3, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1, 385x1(PR), 315x4, 315x2, 275x5, 225x8

Seatbelts: 50x10, 50x10

BB Shrugs: 135x20, 185x20, 185x20

Rear BB Shrugs: 135x30, 135x20

DB Shrugs: 45x15, 50x15, 55x15, 60x15, 55x15, 50x15, 45x15

Face-pulls: 45x15, 45x15

DB Bent Lat Raise: 30x12, 30x12

DB Lateral Raise: 15x20, 15x20

Plate Raise: 25x10, 25x10


I'm pretty happy with the 385 dead... As I said earlier, one of my goals at the start of the cycle was to get my dead up to 405; I'm getting close and still have 2 and a half weeks left on cycle. I should be able to do it if I stay healthy.

My rash is still kicking and I've been advised from some BPS reps to DC use of Dermacrine. I guess your not suppose to run it as long as I've been running it.. Anyway, I don't think the Derm was the culprit since it started when I switched nicotine patch brands.. I think the combo of the Derm and the patch got my skin pissed off. I just switched back to the original patch brand cause I dropped my nic dose today. Hopefully I don't get the lethargy and depression again from not having a solid test base..
 
mmorso said:
Day 39. 177.6. 1.5hrs AM weights; 30min PM walk (later)


Back & Shoulders:

WG Pdwn: 95x12, 105x10, 105x10, 105x10, 105x10

VG Pdwn: 105x10, 105x10, 115x10

WG Seated Cable Row: 140x10, 140x10, 140x10

Deads: 135x8, 185x5, 225x3, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1, 385x1(PR), 315x4, 315x2, 275x5, 225x8

Seatbelts: 50x10, 50x10

BB Shrugs: 135x20, 185x20, 185x20

Rear BB Shrugs: 135x30, 135x20

DB Shrugs: 45x15, 50x15, 55x15, 60x15, 55x15, 50x15, 45x15

Face-pulls: 45x15, 45x15

DB Bent Lat Raise: 30x12, 30x12

DB Lateral Raise: 15x20, 15x20

Plate Raise: 25x10, 25x10


I'm pretty happy with the 385 dead... As I said earlier, one of my goals at the start of the cycle was to get my dead up to 405; I'm getting close and still have 2 and a half weeks left on cycle. I should be able to do it if I stay healthy.

My rash is still kicking and I've been advised from some BPS reps to DC use of Dermacrine. I guess your not suppose to run it as long as I've been running it.. Anyway, I don't think the Derm was the culprit since it started when I switched nicotine patch brands.. I think the combo of the Derm and the patch got my skin pissed off. I just switched back to the original patch brand cause I dropped my nic dose today. Hopefully I don't get the lethargy and depression again from not having a solid test base..
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Get some trest caps as a test base and why not start up with deadlifts if you're going for a PR or generally?
 
Brandinooooo said:
Switch to gum brotha. And maybe TD isn't for you?
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Yeah I got lozenges and nasal snuff too. I might have to cold turkey the **** if this rash doesn't go away though. Btw man, just put my order for green Malay in.. Looking forward to this sh1t.
 
mmorso said:
Yeah I got lozenges and nasal snuff too. I might have to cold turkey the **** if this rash doesn't go away though. Btw man, just put my order for green Malay in.. Looking forward to this sh1t.
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Hell yeah. Let me know what you think when you get it. If the 5g isn't enough, don't redose. Wait until the next day and try 7g. Redosing is, for the most part, pointless.
 
Lol. My nipples are itchin and sensitive... I think I'm gonna put the dbol in the stash and save it for a test cycle next summer. I don't wanna risk the e sides, especially since I only have Nolva on hand.
 
Yeah I know... I shoulda gotten some exem. I'll be good though with Nolva since I'm going to DC the dbol. If I get a lump I'll start dosing it and look into some options. I'm not worried..

Originally this cycle was gonna be very dry with just the LGD and Epi... I knew the risk of not having exem but threw the dice.
 
Day 41. Weight 177.2. 1.5hrs weights

Chest & Arms:

Incline DBP: 45x10, 50x10, 50x10, 50x8, 45x10

Incline BBP: 115x8, 115x8, 95x12, 95x12, 95x10

Flies: 40x10, 30x15, 30x15


Arms:

Incline Alt DB Curls: 25x15, 25x15

Cable Rope: 50x12, 50x12, 50x12

Preachers: 65x12, 45x15, 45x15 (+partials to failure)

RG EZ Curls: 45x12, 45x12

Skullcrushers: 85x10, 85x10, 65x12

Tri-Pdwns: 55x12, 55x12, 45x20

Kickbacks: 50x12, 55x12, 55x12


I ended up dosing dbol a few hrs before going to the gym and had one of the best workouts I've had in a long time... Great pump and focus.

So, I'll be out of The1 on Tuesday and won't be dosing dbol. I am tossing the idea around of running Dimethandrostenol at 40mgs for the last 3 wks of this cycle. I have a partial bottle on hand.. Considering that I won't be running another cycle till next summer, it's incredibly tempting...

What do y'all think? YoungBodyBuil, NewAgeMayan, Brandinooooo, Brandaddy..
 
I personally wouldn't.. it's your body though. If you think your liver can handle it, then go for it. Personally, if I had it and really wanted to take it but was already on other orals, I would just extend my cycle a little longer so that way I could take it, but not at the same time as other toxic compounds.
 
Brandaddy said:
I personally wouldn't.. it's your body though. If you think your liver can handle it, then go for it. Personally, if I had it and really wanted to take it but was already on other orals, I would just extend my cycle a little longer so that way I could take it, but not at the same time as other toxic compounds.
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I won't be taking any methylated orals with it.. It'll be dimeth, LGD, & super Epi
 
Well, if that's the case.. Honestly, f it. Might as well take it so that way you're not tempted to jump back on cycle early and can take a proper off time. If you're anything like me, you won't be able to sir there for 6 months and look at that every day without taking it. Might as well just get it over with. Lol
 
Brandaddy said:
Well, if that's the case.. Honestly, f it. Might as well take it so that way you're not tempted to jump back on cycle early and can take a proper off time. If you're anything like me, you won't be able to sir there for 6 months and look at that every day without taking it. Might as well just get it over with. Lol
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Lol. Honestly, that's my train of thought. Ha! Also, my "recomp" has gone to hell considering the voracious appetite I've got from the LGD and MK... I also might as well get the nutrient partitioning effects from the dimeth...

I got a new baby coming in March so I think my next cycle will be at the end of next summer... I'm might as well go big now to get it outta my system.
 
Day 42. Weight 179. 1hr afternoon lifting

Legs & Abs


Squats: 135x10, 185x10, 225x8, 245x6, 245x6, 225x8, 185x12

BB Lunges: 185x8, 135x10, 135x8

Lying Leg Curls: 125x9, 125x8, 110x10, 100x10, 100x10, 85x12

Leg Extensions: 125x12, 125x12, 110x12, 100x10, 75x12

BW Hip Thrusts: 1 set of 50

Abs


I never do BB Lunges and noticed how much my balance blows. Yeah I need to start doing exercises that improve balance..

Weight is going up.. I don't think I'm gaining all that much fat.. I've put 2 inches on my gut since the start of this cycle and am up 15 lbs.
 
mmorso said:
Day 42. Weight 179. 1hr afternoon lifting

Legs & Abs


Squats: 135x10, 185x10, 225x8, 245x6, 245x6, 225x8, 185x12

BB Lunges: 185x8, 135x10, 135x8

Lying Leg Curls: 125x9, 125x8, 110x10, 100x10, 100x10, 85x12

Leg Extensions: 125x12, 125x12, 110x12, 100x10, 75x12

BW Hip Thrusts: 1 set of 50

Abs


I never do BB Lunges and noticed how much my balance blows. Yeah I need to start doing exercises that improve balance..

Weight is going up.. I don't think I'm gaining all that much fat.. I've put 2 inches on my gut since the start of this cycle and am up 15 lbs.
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You could do 1 footed dumbell/kettle squats for balance.
 
mmorso said:
Yeah I need to start doing exercises that improve balance.
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If you are looking for a single exercises that will improve stability all the way around, try overhead squats. Before jumping into them, I recommend trying this "intro" first...
1 - Put an empty bar on your shoulders
2 - Squat to the floor
3 - Press the bar above your head while squatted
4 - Stand up while the bar is overhead
5 - Repeat
Try four sets of ten, you will def feel it!
 
mmorso said:
Joe12, how much weight did ya gain when you ran LGD? How much was muscle/ how much was fat?
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Too much! I began around 168, and hit 194 on a 6-week run. I gained it all over, but I gained way to much fat. I was hungry all the time, I ended up cutting about a month after the run. Im sitting around 187-190 now, and dont want to get any bigger.
 
Joe12 said:
Too much! I began around 168, and hit 194 on a 6-week run. I gained it all over, but I gained way to much fat. I was hungry all the time, I ended up cutting about a month after the run. Im sitting around 187-190 now, and dont want to get any bigger.
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Lol!!! I think that's what's happening to me.. I woke at 180.2 this morning. Started the cycle 6 wks ago at 164.4. I'm starving all the time. Ha.

Any BF I'm gaining is nothing that fasted cardio, yohimbine, and a 30 day keto diet can't solve though.
 
mmorso said:
Lol!!! I think that's what's happening to me.. I woke at 180.2 this morning. Started the cycle 6 wks ago at 164.4. I'm starving all the time. Ha.

Any BF I'm gaining is nothing that fasted cardio, yohimbine, and a 30 day keto diet can't solve though.
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True, I basically packed on the lbs (along with some fat), then cut. After the cut I looked better then when I began. Looking back, I wish I would have backed off on my calorie intake and been more content with a lean bulk. I dont know about you, but when I looked in the mirror when I was bulking I thought, dang im getting jacked, I should keep eating, lol. Tyranny of urgent I guess.
 
Joe12 said:
I dont know about you, but when I looked in the mirror when I was bulking I thought, dang im getting jacked, I should keep eating, lol. Tyranny of urgent I guess.
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Yeah bud!! That's what's going on.. And it's so much harder for me to gain muscle mass than to lose BF.. So F it. My kcals aren't too ridiculous though; 2,500-3.. I think I'm getting insulin resistant though. I've gotta get a GDA
 
Day 43. Weight 180.2. 1hr15mins fasted AM weights

Back & Shoulders


Deadlifts: 135x8, 185x5, 225x3, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1, 315x5, 315x2, 275x5

T-Bar Rows: 115x12, 135x12, 135x10, 180x8

Seatbelts: 50x10, 50x10, 50x10

BB Shrugs: 135x20, 185x20, 185x17, 135x30

Rear BB Shrugs: 135x20, 185x20, 185x15

DB Shrugs: 50x20, 55x20, 60x20

Face-pulls: 45x15, 45x15, 45x12

DB Bent Lat Raise: 30x12, 30x12

DB Lateral Raise: 15x20, 15x20, 15x20

Plate Raise: 25x10, 25x10


I'm feeling stronger every time I work my back... Seems to be when I can best gauge strength gains. I started Dimethandrostenol and will dose 30mgs for the next 3 weeks, unless I get signs of liver stress...
 
Day 44. Weight 178.8. Rest day.

Felt lethargic all day... running out of The1 and discontinuing Dermacrine are catching up to me. I ordered more Epi a week ago and it just shipped today, which is lame. I'm gonna up the Epi to 750mgs when I get it. I noticed that the hair shedding has increased since starting dime, which is weird cause it won't convert to DHT, from what I've read. Libido is up though, but I'm not one to complain about having a low libido... Lol. I think it's actually one of the luxuries of getting older.
 
mmorso said:
Day 44. Weight 178.8. Rest day.

Felt lethargic all day... running out of The1 and discontinuing Dermacrine are catching up to me. I ordered more Epi a week ago and it just shipped today, which is lame. I'm gonna up the Epi to 750mgs when I get it. I noticed that the hair shedding has increased since starting dime, which is weird cause it won't convert to DHT, from what I've read. Libido is up though, but I'm not one to complain about having a low libido... Lol. I think it's actually one of the luxuries of getting older.
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Maybe use a little dermacrine until the epi arrives.
 
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