Lgd+ dermacrine= low libido

[fordmandiesel]

Any and all assistance would be great boys, have ran lgd before without many issues, low libido kicked in around week 4 but was ok, came back after pct, this time around I decided to try lgd+dermacrine combo thinking libido would be great and turns out it’s the opposite and I’m only finishing week 1, is this even possible? I’m wondering if I should switch to straight test at this point if I’m shut down already

 

[Brain5ick]

How much of everything are you running?

 

[Renew1]

Any and all assistance would be great boys, have ran lgd before without many issues, low libido kicked in around week 4 but was ok, came back after pct, this time around I decided to try lgd+dermacrine combo thinking libido would be great and turns out it’s the opposite and I’m only finishing week 1, is this even possible? I’m wondering if I should switch to straight test at this point if I’m shut down already

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/306101-pct-not-lgd.html#post6093115

You said in the other thread that you weren't sure that the previous run of LGD was legit, but you're comparing this one to that one and scratching your head.

You really shouldn't be that shut down already from 1 week of LGD (with Dermacrine).

My guess is that you were more shut down from the previous cycle than you realized, and when you started this one, it just completed the shutdown.

Did you run a PCT?
You definitely didn't have enough time to run the Pct and have any time off in between.

There's a reason we recommend PCT and time off protocols.
They aren't magic, but they're the best we've got.

 

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This should fix your libido problem for sure! Reps

 

[YoungThor]

Add a small amount of yk11. That skyrocketed my libido. It might make you a bit moody and aggressive too though.

 

[Jinsun]

I thought that even small amounts of lgd shut you down quickly?

 

[Borashi]

small dose of rad 140 at 5-6mg might help with libido as well as serve as a test base. When I ran my sarm cycle, my libido was strong 5-6 weeks, then normal last 2 weeks of cycle.

 

[Borashi]

LGD does suppress, if its legit. That is why you have to design your cycle protocol accordingly with that in mind.

 

[fordmandiesel]

How much of everything are you running?

10mg lgd, 3pumps derm, weigh 175 fairly lean

 

[fordmandiesel]

Yea, I’m not even sure if i can really say it was low libido by week 4 previously could have been stress, wasn’t anything to complain about really, pct was pretty short but felt 100% libido felt like I was 18 again after a few days into pct so I did a 5 week, 20/20/10/5 nolva/mtest should have done longer off I know, going on vacation in 3 weeks my original plan was to run the first cycle for 12 weeks if it went well so my timing is all fkd up now from that first iffy run

 

[fordmandiesel]

This should fix your libido problem for sure! Reps

Not sure if that was a joke? Came over in jiberish

 

[Brain5ick]

I think 5 pumps of dermacrine instead of 3 would make you feel better.

 

[Renew1]

Well, at any rate.... Make sure that you do a proper PCT with a SERM this time AND take time off after the cycle, if you don't want to kill your body's natural ability to produce TEST.

 

[user567]

LGD will not do this at the end of week 1. Suppression usually kicks in around week 4. Libido can be affected by many things. Not just amabolics and sarms

 

[fordmandiesel]

If anyone’s still following I ended up ditching the lgd after my last post, continued dermacrine, added sustain alpha, feeling like a million bucks actually leaned out a little bit, feeling full and vascular, might finish up the dermacrine and continue sustain alpha and get blood work, not sure if I should pct with a serm or not, I keep reading mixed things on dermacrind

 

[Renew1]

If anyone’s still following I ended up ditching the lgd after my last post, continued dermacrine, added sustain alpha, feeling like a million bucks actually leaned out a little bit, feeling full and vascular, might finish up the dermacrine and continue sustain alpha and get blood work, not sure if I should pct with a serm or not, I keep reading mixed things on dermacrind

Dermacrine won't require a SERM PCT.

If your hormones were ok when you stopped the LGD this time, you shouldn't need a SERM.

But if I were you, I might consider an OTC type PCT product when you stop the Dermacrine and Sustain Alpha.

 

[Old Witch]

I'm not a fan of DHEA itself, dermacrine is DHEA mainly. It's basically instant estrogen. I like to add it into dry cycles to get a bit of water weight on, 200-300mg for a month or so but absolutely need a strong AI dose so it's not so estrogenic. I made that mistake recently, forgot I needed the AI and just took the DHEA. Whoops.

Anyway that's not the best thing. Ideally you'd have test or another steroid strong enough to perform like test. Trest, epiandrosterone, androsterone, DHT, something like that.

 

[Old Witch]

Dermacrine won't require a SERM PCT.

If your hormones were ok when you stopped the LGD this time, you shouldn't need a SERM.

But if I were you, I might consider an OTC type PCT product when you stop the Dermacrine and Sustain Alpha.

Absolutely, maybe just a little of the ol CEL M Test or something with NMDA in it.

 

[fordmandiesel]

OTC pct sounds like a plan, I havent felt any estro sideffects everything feels very normal but vascular and lifts have been up so I never thought about adding anything extra, thanks for the input!

 

[fordmandiesel]

I'm not a fan of DHEA itself, dermacrine is DHEA mainly. It's basically instant estrogen. I like to add it into dry cycles to get a bit of water weight on, 200-300mg for a month or so but absolutely need a strong AI dose so it's not so estrogenic. I made that mistake recently, forgot I needed the AI and just took the DHEA. Whoops.

Anyway that's not the best thing. Ideally you'd have test or another steroid strong enough to perform like test. Trest, epiandrosterone, androsterone, DHT, something like that.

Never heard of it refered to as I instant estrogen, I’m usually pretty sensitive and get estrogen sideffects from a lot of products im surprised I haven’t noticed anything at all and it’s been some time this is my 7th week on it no ai needed but have it on hand of course, Maybe I’ll add in some dim and finish off the week then go to an otc pct and see what happens, hopefully my joints and strength stays up, has been pretty sweet past few weeks I must say It’s more then I expected

 

[Borashi]

Honestly Dermacrine and a different dhea cream I got made my shoulder breakout with acne, so I've stopped using, I'm taking epiandro as my test base. 15 mgs of YK11 will act as an a.i. and taking 5-10 pwo really helps with Aggression. Love the feeling of yk11. Rad140 at low dose will boost libido as well.

 

[Borashi]

If your strength is up, then the LGD is working. I'm on week 5 and my strength has been explosive. I'm adding in Superdrol for 3 weeks, starting tomorrow. I want them size gains.

 

[Old Witch]

If your strength is up, then the LGD is working. I'm on week 5 and my strength has been explosive. I'm adding in Superdrol for 3 weeks, starting tomorrow. I want them size gains.

That superdrol is gonna come on like a monster so just hold on tight. You gon have fun.

I get some sides from dhea as well. At a high dose it can turn something dry like DMZ or superdrol msten etc into dianabol-like wetness. Which is really great if you hate dbol but want that mass gain that only can come with the extra estrogenic water retention (you puff up), but really sh1t for any other purpose IMO. Unless you’re female.

I’d like to see a high dose androsterone/epiandro combination TD product (or a combo pack of pills and gel) out there for guys to use instead. There’s stuff that works in the meantime though.