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Does anyone have any experience with LGD-4033 over 10mg? If so I’d love to hear about it. Been using it for 4 weeks, and see moderate results and was wondering if I could up the dose. Thank you in advance
 
Havent used it yet am waiting for delivery of my mine...5mg capsules and going to stack it MK677. Have Rad 140 but not sure if it'll supress the hell out of me. Was going to start the Lgd at 5mg then up to 10mg. Hows the suppression been and any sides noted??
 
The higher you go the more suppressed/lethargic you will be. You will need 4-andro for a test base if you are doing orals. Lgd is more suppressive than rad. Mk-677 will add to your lethargy but not through suppression and should fade so start half dose on that to get used to it. Lgd will make you lethargic at week 3-4 so having some 4-andro on hand would be best. Epi andro doesn't do enough. Some guys pin test.
 
Some guys do more than 10mg of lgd easily so you could bump it up and see how you feel. I personally wouldn't if I didnt have a test base on hand to get me through the lethargy.
 
LSALT said:
The higher you go the more suppressed/lethargic you will be. You will need 4-andro for a test base if you are doing orals. Lgd is more suppressive than rad. Mk-677 will add to your lethargy but not through suppression and should fade so start half dose on that to get used to it. Lgd will make you lethargic at week 3-4 so having some 4-andro on hand would be best. Epi andro doesn't do enough. Some guys pin test.
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Well i have Androtest which is a 1 step conversion to 4-AD (allegedly) and Dermacrine. From what i have heard Dermacrine is a better bet than 4-Andro??
 
Androtest ingredient profile definitely does not stack up to what you suggested. :) neither does dermacrine. Neither does androhard or epi andro. To fight the lethargy you will most likely experience 4 andro converts to actual testosterone. Will all those other compounds give an added benefit? Sure. Will you wish you weren't so brain fogged and had more drive to get life done. Yup. Just trying to help you with what's ideal.
 
Dermacrine doesnt do ****. Used it my last two oral cycles and still felt horrible. Barely made it 4 weeks both times.
 
LSALT said:
Androtest ingredient profile definitely does not stack up to what you suggested. :) neither does dermacrine. Neither does androhard or epi andro. To fight the lethargy you will most likely experience 4 andro converts to actual testosterone. Will all those other compounds give an added benefit? Sure. Will you wish you weren't so brain fogged and had more drive to get life done. Yup. Just trying to help you with what's ideal.
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I thought 4-AD is the same thing as 4-andro but stronger because it's only 1 step conversion vs 4-andros 2 step
 
I ran lgd at 40mg, I honestly think It did nothing more gain wise than when I ran it at 30mg which Imo is already high enough. I started to get ph like sides tho (nothing crazy) harder time to sleep well, I would wake up more often, and lgd + rad at that dose definitely fucked my lipids more than some strong compounds. Liver Values were around 2-4 times higher than normal if I recall correctly
 
jim2509 said:
Well i have Androtest which is a 1 step conversion to 4-AD (allegedly) and Dermacrine. From what i have heard Dermacrine is a better bet than 4-Andro??
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Also when we talk conversions we usually say how many steps it takes to get to the desired result. So 4-andro is two steps from test. We are not trying to make 4-ad. Androtest looks like every other otc natural test booster to me. Same ingredients that give you a libido boost but don't do much else.
 
I would put the androtest in your pct. It can aid there a little.
 
I wouldn't tell anyone to buy it for that though but since you have it add it there.
 
LSALT said:
Also when we talk conversions we usually say how many steps it takes to get to the desired result. So 4-andro is two steps from test. We are not trying to make 4-ad. Androtest looks like every other otc natural test booster to me. Same ingredients that give you a libido boost but don't do much else.
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Dude he's talking about fusion supplements 4-AD
 
LSALT said:
Also when we talk conversions we usually say how many steps it takes to get to the desired result. So 4-andro is two steps from test. We are not trying to make 4-ad. Androtest looks like every other otc natural test booster to me. Same ingredients that give you a libido boost but don't do much else.
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Er i dont know what Androtest your looking at but the one i have is Cyclo-4-ADiol a 1 step conversion to 4-AD NOT a 2 step 4 Andro product.
 
jim2509 said:
Er i dont know what Androtest your looking at but the one i have is Cyclo-4-ADiol a 1 step conversion to 4-AD NOT a 2 step 4 Andro product.
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That should turn into test then....
 
jim2509 said:
Er i dont know what Androtest your looking at but the one i have is Cyclo-4-ADiol a 1 step conversion to 4-AD NOT a 2 step 4 Andro product.
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Definitely keep that out of pct hahaha
 
jim2509 said:
Yeah should do....so maybe run that instead of the Dermacrine alongside the lgd? Strange as i heard good things about Dermacrine.
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What I've found is that everyone pushing dermicrine has not used or more likely cant find a legit test oral. Run your test product when you start getting lethargic if you are being a minimalist. Or from the start if you are going no longer than 8 wks.
 
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LSALT said:
Also when we talk conversions we usually say how many steps it takes to get to the desired result. So 4-andro is two steps from test. We are not trying to make 4-ad. Androtest looks like every other otc natural test booster to me. Same ingredients that give you a libido boost but don't do much else.
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Androtest is 4-androstenediol, i e. 1 step conversion.
 
You can run them all if you want but I would space them at least 1 we apart incase you get sides, you will know which product to blame.
 
LSALT said:
What I've found is that everyone pushing dermicrine has not used or more likely cant find a legit test oral. Run your test product when you start getting lethargic if you are being a minimalist. Or from the start if you are going no longer than 8 wks.
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Yeah i wont be going over 8 weeks with the lgd or over 10mg but will be running the MK677 for longer. Will probably go down the minimalist approach i reckon...depends although i have a couple of bottles of 4 - andro spare as well kicking around.
 
LSALT said:
You can run them all if you want but I would space them at least 1 we apart incase you get sides, you will know which product to blame.
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Thats a very good idea thanks...ill run the MK677 1st so i can measure blood glucose then introduce the lgd after 7 days.
 
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