LGD 4033 PCT

Smont said:
The gains in the studies are always far greater because a untrained individual will respond far batter to drugs and training then someone who is already carrying some muscle and or has used performance enhancing drugs. So the trained person is not going to get as good of results as the person in the study. There for more drug required then the study was done on.
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Totally agree, but I wasn’t aware they had the people in the studies train or be exposed to any sort of real stimulus like that. It has been at least a year since I’ve read them though so I could very well be wrong. My only real point here was logically I’d think LBM gains without exposure to training stimuli would only be amplified, not reduced, by exposure to them.
 
Smont said:
And I just realized we're beating down the door on a two-year-old thread lol
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Yeah lol this got brought back from the dead. And fair enough re moving on. Definitely not trying to argue about it ad nauseam. I was really just curious why a lot of guys on the board recommend a PCT even at higher doses if FSH and LH aren’t hit too hard (unless they are).
 
Smont said:
Put on 10lbs and looked much bigger in 6 weeks. I'm not a fan of sarms at all by the way. I prefer what I know works and long term sides. Sarms are 2 New but lgd at the right dose is fairly strong. Id love to see someone do 50mg a day. Ppl take that dose of dbol or anadrol all the time so y not with lgd? If someone was to say that dose is crazy there basically saying it's stronger and more toxic. It shouldn't be so y not. Price is the only reason I wouldn't make that experiment
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i had same results 6 weeks at 15 mg gained 11 lbs and fat fell off me...lethargic af tho i remember laying on the couch all weekends and literally not getting off it cept to go to bed felt so bad...
 
johnny412 said:
i had same results 6 weeks at 15 mg gained 11 lbs and fat fell off me...lethargic af tho i remember laying on the couch all weekends and literally not getting off it cept to go to bed felt so bad...
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If you ran it solo, it's probably because eventually your estrogen was low, low estrogen can be worse then high estro in some regards
 
johnny412 said:
i wonder if epistane pushes estrogen super low and thats why i cant take it?
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It's an Anti-Estrogen Steroid.
It will definitely lower your Estrogen.
A good "Test base" of something that aromatizes could certainly help you to feel better.
... But there's only one way to know for sure.
 
Renew1 said:
It's an Anti-Estrogen Steroid.
It will definitely lower your Estrogen.
A good "Test base" of something that aromatizes could certainly help you to feel better.
... But there's only one way to know for sure.
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suggestions for oral test base?
 
Renew1 said:
A lot of guys use Dermacrine, or 4-Andro.

What compounds have you used before?
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the only time i didnt get dog sick from epistane i was taking german pharma stanodrol with it. idk if they even still have stanodrol but gp went thru the bad change right after that lol
 
johnny412 said:
the only time i didnt get dog sick from epistane i was taking german pharma stanodrol with it. idk if they even still have stanodrol but gp went thru the bad change right after that lol
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This is a better version of Stanodrol.
It can help give you energy, but I'd still recommend running Dermacrine with it.
You need some Estrogen man.

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