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LGD-4033 experiences/results

GaryG said:
Southern SARMs
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Ive always gotten better results buying RC chems. Infact, my last run of Ostarine was from a well known supp brand instead of my usual uk rc supplier. Gave me nothing. Completely useless.

Don't know much about SS other than Im on my 3rd bottle of Raloxifene and its definitely legit
 
No, I keep getting told that an AI is really not necessary for a sensible dose of LGD. The rebound from suppression from it happens quickly and naturally. That's one of the selling points of SARMs. Oral dosing, minimal side effects, no need for support and PCT.

For the lack of results and need for PCT, I can see why a lot of AAS users are poopooing SARMs and recommending people just hop on Test.
 
Ehhh lack of pct is not true , the very minimal effect on LH and FSH from sarms allows for a much quicker recovery but a pct for a suppressive compound is allways gonna be needed imo to get yourself back to homeostasis as quickly as possible . Will you recover without pct from sarms yeah but that's up to the user . I'm trying to keep as much of my gains if not all of them from my run , I'm on day 30 and almost up 10 pounds .
 
GaryG said:
Starting to have serious doubts. My surge in appetite and strength could easily have been placebo. I'm nearly at the end of week two when it's really supposed to be kicking in beyond placebo and glycogen + water loading. My lifts started to reverse last night, just like they always do at these levels. I mean I am exactly just 2-5% off my best all time lifts...right where you'd expect me to be five years along and a few months out from 40. I thought LGD had "reset" the clock for me and put me back to the point where I'd be making linear gains. What seems to have happened so far is that I got excited, ate more, and put more effort into my training. But now reality is setting in.

I will probably finish this bottle since I paid for it. But I'm starting to think that this might all have been hype. I keep reading that people got "good" results with LGD-4033, but there is precious little info on actual increases in lifts, which to me are the only real metric that matters, especially for an experienced lifter with decent numbers.

And then there's the complication about the quality from various sources. Half the discussion on SARMs is whether or not the various retail suppliers are actually putting enough of the chemicals in their product...or any chemicals at all. And on various sites it is verboten to discuss sources. So we are getting excited about things that will at best work less well than existing AAS but without even knowing if we're even getting the actual stuff.

I think the next thing I'm going to look into is test.
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Thanks for the detailed update. I don't trust RC products for anything, whether it be SARMs, ancillaries, or peptides. All it took for me was one blown pct and I'll never use another RC for anything. Yes, plenty of good experiences. I mean anything labeled for "research" and "not for human consumption" is an instant alibi to under-dose or flat out sell bunk garbage.
 
Dma378 said:
Thanks for the detailed update. I don't trust RC products for anything, whether it be SARMs, ancillaries, or peptides. All it took for me was one blown pct and I'll never use another RC for anything. Yes, plenty of good experiences. I mean anything labeled for "research" and "not for human consumption" is an instant alibi to under-dose or flat out sell bunk garbage.
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I'm not sure I understand. So where SHOULD one get these things?
 
GaryG said:
Starting to have serious doubts. My surge in appetite and strength could easily have been placebo. I'm nearly at the end of week two when it's really supposed to be kicking in beyond placebo and glycogen + water loading. My lifts started to reverse last night, just like they always do at these levels. I mean I am exactly just 2-5% off my best all time lifts...right where you'd expect me to be five years along and a few months out from 40. I thought LGD had "reset" the clock for me and put me back to the point where I'd be making linear gains. What seems to have happened so far is that I got excited, ate more, and put more effort into my training. But now reality is setting in.

I will probably finish this bottle since I paid for it. But I'm starting to think that this might all have been hype. I keep reading that people got "good" results with LGD-4033, but there is precious little info on actual increases in lifts, which to me are the only real metric that matters, especially for an experienced lifter with decent numbers.

And then there's the complication about the quality from various sources. Half the discussion on SARMs is whether or not the various retail suppliers are actually putting enough of the chemicals in their product...or any chemicals at all. And on various sites it is verboten to discuss sources. So we are getting excited about things that will at best work less well than existing AAS but without even knowing if we're even getting the actual stuff.

I think the next thing I'm going to look into is test.
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Which one are you on?
 
You can check out Olympus labs UK they just came out with a sarms line and some cool others all are third party tested for purity so you're getting quality
 
I didn't put the name in my initial let-down review because I never know when I'll get in trouble for being honest and trying to let the market do its job by weeding out bad actors.
 
I feel fine giving my honest opinion here , don't be afraid to say if you think a company is crap or is great , regardless I'm allways gonna give my opinion
 
Joedoubledose said:
I feel fine giving my honest opinion here , don't be afraid to say if you think a company is crap or is great , regardless I'm allways gonna give my opinion
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I'm just so used to seeing warnings at different sites like "DO NOT DISCUSS SOURCES". I don't see how that helps consumers at all.
 
GaryG said:
I'm just so used to seeing warnings at different sites like "DO NOT DISCUSS SOURCES". I don't see how that helps consumers at all.
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This is mostly on illegal items, AAS/ph's, etc.

But also be weary of bashing board sponsors. SS is not one, so no worries.
 
I have seen too much negative on SS to bet on them. Olympus UK and a one RC company only I trust. Celtic too if they had it. Other than that way to much BS and crap out there.
 
T-Bone said:
No such thing as "trusted" companies.
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So I should save my money for food instead of experimenting on getting scammed?

Not bitter. Just want an opinion. If anything, I'll wait till my next meet which will be untested and populated with some big names that I know can put me on to more traditional and reliable stuff.
 
GaryG said:
So I should save my money for food instead of experimenting on getting scammed?

Not bitter. Just want an opinion. If anything, I'll wait till my next meet which will be untested and populated with some big names that I know can put me on to more traditional and reliable stuff.
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Well, it's your choice. I think the only real way to tell if something works is to try it for yourself and be honest with yourself. Other peoples opinions on "trusted" companies can't help, especially on a sponsored forum. Maybe this is drastic but a good way would be to purchase the product, use it, stay completely clear of any forums or reviews on the product. Then when you are finally finished with the product you can come back to the forums and post your thoughts. The thing with placebo effect is that most people don't understand it. If you ask on the forums what to expect from a product, then you are going to be looking for those effects....Reading other peoples reviews are going to effect what you think you feel from the product. I'm saying it's almost the same as when a jury can't watch the news or go on the internet because what they see and read will effect their opinion on the case.
 
:arms: bravo...well said. The only way to find out is jump in. Everyone responds differently. And T-bone is right on the money when he says "be honest with yourself" love it and can't wait to do my run of LGD/GW
 
Weathermark said:
:arms: bravo...well said. The only way to find out is jump in. Everyone responds differently. And T-bone is right on the money when he says "be honest with yourself" love it and can't wait to do my run of LGD/GW
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I honestly think this sums it up:

SARMs are only useful to males who are running them on top of real AAS. Then there seems to be a multiplier effect. But on their own SARMs aren't going to do much...

...Unless a natty female uses them. In that case they may help a bit while keeping masculizing side effects to a minimum.

I won't be spending any more money on SARMs, at least not unless I can get my hands on test.
 
Yeah you gotta go out into the world and use trial and error , and I agree that when u go looking for info it's because you want to find what your looking for , if your looking into AAS obviously you wanna see the positive effects and not all the dumb ads about steroid abuse and all that propaganda
 
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I can say this about Hardcore Peptides: I have their Exemestane, although I haven't used it - but their order processing and shipping is top notch. The prices are good and I hope the product is OK too!
 
Well, I just wanted to be as strong as possible in a given weight class. I'm not sure if I had any business looking anywhere else except testosterone injections. I see a lot of vague "great results" reported. I only care about being stronger, particularly in the squat, bench, deadlift, snatch, clean, and jerk. Without having to put on massive amounts of fat to keep improving.

Maybe PPARs could at least help me cut some of that stubborn fat so I'm the same strength in a lower weight class.
 
I might have spoken too soon... :)

A few factors contributed to my lifts going down right about when I thought they'd be going up at the two-week mark. But I went to the gym yesterday after having rested a lot more and addressed some debilitating inflammation in my thighs with DMSO and Absorbine.

I was able to do six sets of doubles with 225 on the bench. I suck at bench (I'm built to deadlift) and have always had trouble getting above 225 for any length of time. In fact, last month I couldn't even bench 225 at all. So while a total of 12 reps with it divided by six sets doesn't seem like much, it is a minor miracle for me. This is about as strong as I've ever been on bench. My best paused bench in raw meets several years ago was 242 lbs. Based on yesterday's performance 225 feels like a 4 or 5-rep max. I was able to touch and go with 240 last week and this week I'm confident I could do 245. My very best touch and go was 255 or 260 (can't remember which and don't feel like finding the log) about three years ago. So I am indeed still moving (rocketing) toward breaking my all time highs on my worst compound lift.

And there's also the fact that I did my biggest ever front squat last week (285 @ 178) without even practicing the lift for three years.

And this is totally subjective...but I think my traps and delts are starting to get a hint of that something-exogenous-has-been-exciting-my-androgen-receptors look.

I'm guessing my source properly dosed my LGD 4033. But they have sucked at getting back to me and I'm going to go with a more highly recommended source (thanks DMA) and run LGD 4033 for another month or two.

I squatted okay after benching, but I'll have a better measure of progress there when I squat without benching first. Next session is bench only (I can bench three times per week and squat twice and make progress), then the session after that is squat only. I'll report back again after that.
 
GaryG said:
I might have spoken too soon... :)

A few factors contributed to my lifts going down right about when I thought they'd be going up at the two-week mark. But I went to the gym yesterday after having rested a lot more and addressed some debilitating inflammation in my thighs with DMSO and Absorbine.

I was able to do six sets of doubles with 225 on the bench. I suck at bench (I'm built to deadlift) and have always had trouble getting above 225 for any length of time. In fact, last month I couldn't even bench 225 at all. So while a total of 12 reps with it divided by six sets doesn't seem like much, it is a minor miracle for me. This is about as strong as I've ever been on bench. My best paused bench in raw meets several years ago was 242 lbs. Based on yesterday's performance 225 feels like a 4 or 5-rep max. I was able to touch and go with 240 last week and this week I'm confident I could do 245. My very best touch and go was 255 or 260 (can't remember which and don't feel like finding the log) about three years ago. So I am indeed still moving (rocketing) toward breaking my all time highs on my worst compound lift.

And there's also the fact that I did my biggest ever front squat last week (285 @ 178) without even practicing the lift for three years.

And this is totally subjective...but I think my traps and delts are starting to get a hint of that something-exogenous-has-been-exciting-my-androgen-receptors look.

I'm guessing my source properly dosed my LGD 4033. But they have sucked at getting back to me and I'm going to go with a more highly recommended source (thanks DMA) and run LGD 4033 for another month or two.

I squatted okay after benching, but I'll have a better measure of progress there when I squat without benching first. Next session is bench only (I can bench three times per week and squat twice and make progress), then the session after that is squat only. I'll report back again after that.
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Good to hear man. Keep us posted. Makes me look forward to my LGD run.
 
i loved LGD....5 weeks at 10mg ED and i gained 2kg of lean mass,pumped all day,increase lifting weight,quick recover!.Only side was lethargy during last week.
 
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