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LGD-4033 and S23 log

Hyde said:
I just finished ~40 days at 15mg and don’t feel like it made a big difference (and definitely didn’t notice any sides). So I definitely wouldn’t recommend less than that and will be trying more like 25-30 if I try it again in the future.
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ive noticed it depens on the brand...i have done lgd 3 or 4 times and the only time it did anything it was ol brand
 
Hyde said:
I just finished ~40 days at 15mg and don’t feel like it made a big difference (and definitely didn’t notice any sides). So I definitely wouldn’t recommend less than that and will be trying more like 25-30 if I try it again in the future.
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Damn that sucks
 
Libido is elevated, had a couple of angry episodes but nothing like stronger AAS. I'm still not very lean so can't comment about looking like I'm on winny. Best thing about it for me is that I have increased my strength while cutting up and also held onto and maybe even added a little muscle mass. Also after hitting a muscle group it stays semi pumped for like 3-4 days. Other than that it "feels" mild. I think it is better than most SARMS for a cut. I haven't tried YK or S4 so I can't comment on those but osta was meh, LGD made me hungry as hell.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Libido is elevated, had a couple of angry episodes but nothing like stronger AAS. I'm still not very lean so can't comment about looking like I'm on winny. Best thing about it for me is that I have increased my strength while cutting up and also held onto and maybe even added a little muscle mass. Also after hitting a muscle group it stays semi pumped for like 3-4 days. Other than that it "feels" mild. I think it is better than most SARMS for a cut. I haven't tried YK or S4 so I can't comment on those but osta was meh, LGD made me hungry as hell.
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Lgd is making intermittent faster a little harder. That’s for sure.
 
Told ya lol. I don't have the willpower
 
Going well. Problem is my discipline kinda sucks and I find myself drinking a few beers 1-2x a week. Still am down a few % in BF though. Good combo for me.
 
You were right about the hunger on LGD. I can eat 1.5k-2k cals in a meal and be starving 3 hours later. But I'm also taking mk-677 so that probably doesn't help lol.
 
Yeah I'll probably stack it in my bulk cycle for sure because of the amount of food I can throw down while on it
 
RickyBlobby said:
Yeah I'll probably stack it in my bulk cycle for sure because of the amount of food I can throw down while on it
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I wish I was lean enough to do a true bulking cycle! All I have to do is take the reigns off and I can gain weight. I suppose if I wanted to get up to 250+ I would have to put in some real work, but there’s a big difference between gaining lbs on the scale vs quality muscle!
 
40mg of S23 is noticeably better than 20 or 30 by the way. No sides other than some minor cramping when flexing under no load
 
Hyde said:
So you’re telling me 15 was indeed too little and I should go right for 30 if I try it again?
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I say 40. 40 starts feeling like an actual AAS cycle. WAY better than 20. And noticeably better than 30, and this is 10 weeks in.
 
Cgkone said:
I bet its the MK677
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LDG have me a ravenous appetite. Next time I bulk I will definitely be including it at 30mg a day
 
My appetite is actually low on lgd right now. I felt an initial spike but the same thing happened on mk677 and then I quickly adjusted. S23 sounds promising. Your liver might be temporarily f*cked but who cares? It bounces back from a hard punch faster than Sugar Ray Robinson.
 
YoungThor said:
My appetite is actually low on lgd right now. I felt an initial spike but the same thing happened on mk677 and then I quickly adjusted. S23 sounds promising. Your liver might be temporarily f*cked but who cares? It bounces back from a hard punch faster than Sugar Ray Robinson.
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Liver "feels" fine. Like Mike Arnold said, SARMS are MUCH easier on the liver than methylated AAS. And as some of us know professional bodybuilders have taken high doses of methylated orald for the better part of a year, year after year. As far as I know no bodybuilder has died of liver failure.

In a nutshell, SARMS ddo give you elevated liver enzymes. But this can be equated to your heart beating faster under load. The enzymes are produced because your liver is working harder. Just because your heart rate is up does not mean damage is being done; same principal. And even if some liver cells are being sacrificed they regenerate at a rate faster than you can damage them, unless you are trying really hard, like eating 30 Vicodin a day with a fifth of vodka and 200mg of dbol.
 
Ghrp-6. I believe LGD has more mass building potential though
 
Dam that sounds insane matthersby. What kind of calorie intake are you going for? What’s the weight goal (start to finish)
 
Sam stack said:
I thought it was more similar to winstrol
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Cool. I know me and ricky blobby talked about this before and I think he said the same thing or he compared it to anavar. I can’t remember but it’s probably in this thread. But now that he increased the dose, that could change things and it might feel like a different compound so I figured I’d ask again.
 
YoungThor said:
Cool. I know me and ricky blobby talked about this before and I think he said the same thing or he compared it to anavar. I can’t remember but it’s probably in this thread. But now that he increased the dose, that could change things and it might feel like a different compound so I figured I’d ask again.
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That was more of a question. I was curious to what aas it felt like. I’m actually buying 2 bottles today
 
Yesterday was my last day on S23. ABout 11 weeks total. I finished at 40mg (2x 20mg, one first thing in the morning, the other pre workout) and that was my favorite dose; I did not go higher than 40, but in hindsight I should have tried 50 or 60 since 40mg was essentially side effect free for me. I feel good, no apparent signs of organ strain or anything.

I started at 192lbs and ended up at 195.8, look significantly leaner (dropped 3-4% bf probably )and appear to have significantly more muscle mass. I'm still far from shredded though, I think I started closer to 20%BF than 15% if I'm being honest. Average 500 calorie a day deficit and shot for 100 grams of carbs a day or less. I did have a cheat day or 2 a week

Overall it felt most like Tbol.... Not super dry like winstrol. MG for MG not quite as strong as Tbol, but close. I have access to AAS but basically wanted to try out S23 for myself, mainly to have first hand experience with a stronger SARM. I don't think I will run it again, as I believe I could have gotten a little better results with something like Tbol or Var, but for someone who wants to steer clear of steroids I believe S23 is a solid option.

For mass I would personally stack with LGD, probably a cumulative dose of 50 or 60 mg, but because of the hunger, I cannot recommend LGD as the best option during a cut; personally I don't have the willpower to stay hungry 24/7 and not over eat.

I want to keep this look going, so today I begin 50mg of anavar, and will be taking 15 grams a day of creatine beginning in about a week. I have enough var to last me until the fall, so will probably be on for a while. I'll probably start a new thread at some point to keep you guys up to speed on how that is going.
 
Sam stack said:
would you recommend starting on a lower dose?
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Yeah I would recommend starting at 20, assess sides and go up from there. But like I said 40 for me is side free.
 
Sam stack said:
That was more of a question. I was curious to what aas it felt like. I’m actually buying 2 bottles today
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It felt closest to a low dose of Mechabol/methylclostebol with less gains and sides (I only took 15mg though so that would be expected). I have never used Tbol but Mbol is very similar by all accounts, to mirror Ricky’s experience.
 
Good idea, will do
 
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