Lets Tear This **** UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gspark05]

4th prohormone cycle

weight - 195 (im an ecto ... im at 5k - 5.5k cals per day)
train - 6x week (push pull legs ... legs may get skipped sometimes ... im going to hell)
Started at 110 4 years ago and got to 175 natty and then smoked too much pot and went down then came back up
Goal - Not fit through the door



Cycle -

Beast v2 - 8/12/16/16/0/0/0/0
Epi - 0/0/0/0/45/45/60/60
xosterone - 2 pumps per day throughout cycle
Dermacrine - 4 pumps per day throughout

I am not a noob. I have my cycle supports covered and clomid amongst others for pct

Am I going to die from this or will be on the train to f'in gainsville?

I'll log if ppl want

 

[stann123]

Bad cycle.. that's low dosing for msten and by the time the epi kicks in youll be starting pct

 

[gspark05]

I've worked with the original beast. First time looking into v2. Other loss seem to recommend that dose. What would you recommend? I want epi at the end to harden gains of you will

 

[Peppers]

Me no like this either lol

I'm assuming it's already bought though huh

 

[stann123]

I've worked with the original beast. First time looking into v2. Other loss seem to recommend that dose. What would you recommend? I want epi at the end to harden gains of you will

Did you already buy these? Also what were your other cycles?

 

[gspark05]

I've got enough v2 to up the dose pretty high.

Prev cycles
Beast
Beast again
Beast epi bridge

 

[gspark05]

Beast to epi was awesome. Wanted to recreate that. What do you guys recommend for the msten dose?

 

[stann123]

Beast to epi was awesome. Wanted to recreate that. What do you guys recommend for the msten dose?

Usually ran between 20-40mg. Why not run something else like dmz?

 

[gspark05]

I wanted to try v2. No real reason

 

[gspark05]

Besides msten is insanely androgenic and doesn't arromitize

 

[Peppers]

Edit

Good luck lol

Your mind is set

 

[Sr_505]

I'd run the epi longer than 4 weeks

 

[gspark05]

Appreciate all the advice guys.

Given this is an eight week cycle I figured I'd stop epi at 4. Think I should go longer? I may just feel it out.

Dmz sounds interesting. I'll save the dmz for next year.

I'll up the msten. 30/30/40/40-50

 

[Olympus Labs]

personally 20mg of msten for me is the sweet spot and I weigh 235lbs.

I would run EPI 30/45/45/45/45/45 and not run the msten insanely high especially since you have no tudca listed in that set up.

 

[gspark05]

I didn't list my supports. I have tudca. Do you recommend the following

Msten 20/20/20/20/0/0/0/0/0
Epi 0/0/30/45/45/45/45/45/45

 

[Olympus Labs]

I'd recommend this:

msten: 20/20/20/20
epi: 30/45/45/45/45/45

and just end it at 6 weeks.

 

[stann123]

I don't see the point in stacking them tbh

 

[Olympus Labs]

I don't see the point in stacking them tbh

same.

 

[Mystere3]

I would structure it like this:

Msten 20/20/20/20
Epi 0/0/30/30/45/45/60/60

Use 1g/day of tudca with this cycle.

You also would benefit from a test base.

 

[gspark05]

I hate pinning. I'm a puss. I've got dermacrine and xosterone

 

[gspark05]

I don't see why to stack them.

same.

What's the reasoning here?

 

[jbryand101b]

What's xosterone

 

[Peppers]

Edit:

11 oxo I think lol