Lethargy

From my personal experience with Osta, I found I felt fine on 15 and 20 mg ED but once I upped it to 25 for the final couple weeks, that is when the lethargy hit me. So maybe running on the lower end of dosage might help avoid that side.

Like I've said before and has been said since Ostarine was first available as a "supplement" there is no need to go over 20 mg. Anything over 20mg doesn't increase the results and just results in more potential for side effects.
 
This is a good question. While Ostarine shouldn't be generally used by women (see my post above about the "exceptions") men are a special case.
While impregnation by the man, Ostarine should be used actually or should be used more than three months ago. You will find also the statement in the studies (especially in the older one, in the newer ones only women where testsubjects (and yes, they are not "allowed" getting pregnant during the studies. I will paste here some quotes)), that men have to - at least for three months after the last Ostarine application - prevent during sexual activities.

Why?

As you know, fire and water or electricity and water doesn't fit well together. And a teratogenic substance combined with sperms (liked to a pregnancy) also doesn't fit that well. Sperm in men is going to refresh itself (by sexual activities or masturbation). The researchers selected a time period, in which 99.99% of all the possibly damaged sperm were renewed (talking in statistical language there is never a 100% possibility, nor a 0% by the way).

The feminine testsubjects had to fulfill following condition:


In another study about Ostarine, also men were accepted as testsubjects. The condition - to take part at the studies - were:


And as a reminder: for eight years now the studies about Ostarine were ongoig. And nothing changed concerning the Bicalutamide-story. If Ostarine as a Bicalutamide-derivative were not that dangerous, the conditions (for getting accepted as testsubject) must have changed.

But it has not.

As a personal advice: as a men, don't impregnate a woman while on Ostarine or less than 12 weeks after the cycle. There are other non-Bicalutamide-substances who don't act like the Bicalutamide (LGD-4033, RAD-140). The risk is still there, but a bit less dramatic than in women. Women have to prevent herselves 6 months after the Ostarine application, the researchers recommend.
Despite on these fact, I personally would wait for further studies, which cover the topic "pregnancy". Lower dosed LGD in this case would be IMHO the best option. It's not pure anabolic but also have some androgenic effect.

You can't have your cake and eat it too ;)

Thank you. Valuable info! More people need to fully understand this.

Just a little update on the potential LGD lethargy from my side. I am now two weeks into a bulk cycle using 10mg LGD solo. Feeling no lethargy at all, full of energy, thus I attribute this summer's lethargy to the low carb diet and also having large amount of cortisol crushing 11-oxo (700 - 1.000 mg / day) in my stack.

Thank you. Good to know. I plan on taking LGD next year. Are you using any cycle support?

From my personal experience with Osta, I found I felt fine on 15 and 20 mg ED but once I upped it to 25 for the final couple weeks, that is when the lethargy hit me. So maybe running on the lower end of dosage might help avoid that side.

Yea, thats what others are saying. Plus from reading others log, I don't think there is much benefits to go as high as 25.
 
Looks like he's saying he doesn't want another child because the little bundle of joy he has now keeps him busy enough haha

this basically, though idk if busy is the word since i am not the primary custodial parent. it's just a lot of stress to have the course of another human being's life in your hands. i think this one will grow to be a great, strong, and successful man and that's enough for me when it comes to kids. i used to want a platoon of children when i was younger, changed when i got older.
 
Like I've said before and has been said since Ostarine was first available as a "supplement" there is no need to go over 20 mg. Anything over 20mg doesn't increase the results and just results in more potential for side effects.

Same goes for lgd above 8mg?
 
I'm liking it at 8mg, though I haven't tried 12mg, 8 is definitely where it's at

Thanks, plan on starting at 4 this November and going up to 8 after a couple weeks. Honestly wasn't going to venture in the 12 range but wanted to see what others had to say.
 
Thanks, plan on starting at 4 this November and going up to 8 after a couple weeks. Honestly wasn't going to venture in the 12 range but wanted to see what others had to say.

Heck, 4 might be sufficient
 
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