Lean bulking featuring Iron Flex Diabolix
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mattys4
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thanks brother some good stuff in here well diabolix is some good stuff
lukehayd
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It's definitely been treating you good!
mattys4
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it really has im leaning out significantly now just dipped under 240 so ill need to add some calories but im much leaner and much more comfortable then a few weeks ago at 250
still dosing 75 have maybe 10 days left or so cals about 4100-4700 so ill need to go up maybe 4400-5000 to either stabilize weight and continue leaning or start the gaining process again
McCrew530
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Anything crazy happening on the home stretch of the cycle
mattys4
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ya im getting leaner and bigger im back up close to 250 and significantly leaner then when i started. looking back would have started at 75 and little less calories. ill have a full update later today going to go crush back with my near superhuman strength lol.
lukehayd
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Back up around 250! How's the back feeling?
Lol at the superhuman strength! Might see about adding that onto the label..........
mattys4
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Back up around 250! How's the back feeling?
Lol at the superhuman strength! Might see about adding that onto the label..........
backs great once i dieted down then added weight slowly have to be carefull with this stuff its very strong weight comes very fast if thats your goal. Again i need to point out this is nowhere near my first cycle or newbie gains. This product worked very well leaning or building. Lower doses i feel were great for building with a ton of calories. Higher dose less calories more leaning less building but size gain is still there.
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mattys4
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250 brother 250 even yesterday morning
Goliath1
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Nice Brotha, Nice...
McCrew530
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Eh who's counting? Lol what's ten lbs between friends
mattys4
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that 10 pounds is going to make a major difference come show time next season. I want to go all out cut for next month do a photo shoot then grow again 2 more months before starting prep. Ill have to check your line up. What i could run in vicious cut and keep mass ususally its about 100mgs epistane and 100 hexadrone 60-80dmz have used this stack i think last 3 hard cuts.
mattys4
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i dont like the oral version of either of those they are completely different then the inj version. I wonder how TD versiion will react trest ace is probably my favorite compound so id definitly be interested in TD trest
mattys4
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blood work today so we will see how this effects things im guess all levels very close to normal. I felt very healthy the whole time i can usually tell when a product is harsh and having negative health impacts. All the effects ive had have been temporary and easily corrected or correct themselves upon stoppage. Im very convinced and have been flr a long time that side effects and negative health risks are greatly exxagerated on orals . i prove tjis over and kver with BW and might be coincidence but the only people i knoe that experience and negative effects are those who hang around in forums its like you only get sides if you expect them lol
McCrew530
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The mind can mess with the body a lot! I'm really interested to see how the blood work comes back. Just about everyone has said that they feel great with Diabolix but now we get to see what the real numbers are.
lukehayd
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I'm rather curious as well!
jmyers
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Awesome bro. you've told me that exactly in the past and I do believe as well that most of the stuff that is regurgitated is just bro science from individuals reading stuff on the threads
mattys4
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Everithing is great started prep for 2015 season sitting nice and lean at 245 with very good bloods and BP ans HR
LDubs
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That's awesome! Glad to hear it!
So you enjoyed the diabolix? What other aas/ds that youve used would you compare diabolix to in terms of weight and strength gains?
mattys4
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I dont know man like an adrol dbol combo but not as strong maybe tbol dbol is a better comparison. Its not toxic at all its all positives just like tbol and dbol. And you can bulk or cut on it very easy
LDubs
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Cool. Thanks for sharing your experience with it.
Power-Lift
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matty, can you generalize about the blood work, like:
"Liver enzymes slightly raised, Lipids slightly raised", etc? Were things close to normal for you as far as bloods go?
"Liver enzymes slightly raised, Lipids slightly raised", etc? Were things close to normal for you as far as bloods go?
mattys4
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Ya man they were pretty much fine. They actually were off more from me being out of shape then from horomones. Liver slightly elevated (tested right after training session so thats normal) main ones were high blood pressure and resting heart rate along with **** cholesterol. Remember i had put on 40 pounds in just a few months so after the test i started cardio just 10 minutes stairs a day plus 30 minutess or so walking my dog its a chiwawa so low intensity and cleaned up my diet i also upped my test dose and added desoxy test ace plus anapolan (pharm grade anadrol) got bloods a month later and everything was perfect HR down 15bpm BP 100/68 liver and cholesterol fine so what this tells me is lack of cardio and poor diet have more effect on overall health then horomones. I always thought this but now have some type of evidence to back it. Now im on tresolone ace tren ace mast prop test sust and will be adding 1mg methyltren (injectable) this week ill get bloods again just to further prove my point especialy if they come back ok on methyl tren
McCrew530
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60-90mg seem to be the average dose.
Power-Lift
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mattys4
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I dont know man what cycle? I dont "cycle" i started my first cycle over 2 years ago man im still on it and just get bloods after shows and before starting prep. i dont rememver dkses i started with recomended dose then added as needed to get desired results.
Its funny how different people on forums are then people in real life like if you learned about steroids on forums vs real life. Forums make everything seem so complicated and dangerous. Guys load up on supports and pct for lil 4 week cycles and inreal life not many people even use supports or know what they are or wpuld bother with 4 week cycles. They just run gear until they dont want to anymore then stop. Supports are pharm grade only (exem tamox etc) no one uses research chems. Sides too seems like if you are part of a foruk you get alot of sides and if not you really dont like if your on forums you expect sides so you make some up. Idk its just funny to me the differences not talking about you specifically just a general statement
Yolked
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Yeah and guys act like because the read it on a forum they know what's up. When really don't know didly squat... some 20 something punk thinking he knows more than a guy with 20 years experience training and conditioning with and without PED'S. Props bro..
mattys4
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Right thats excatly the issue, people online hear something rather they read something would be more accurate then they repeat what they hear it then gets read and repeated by someone else and so on and so on. This info is usually bad. Biggest one of my pet peeves is people using RCs instead of pharm grade. Aother is "have pct in hand before starting your cycle" sh!t i started this cycle over two years ago maybe i had pct in hand but i doubt it. I do believe you should have exemestane, letro and nolva on hand for during your cycle if needed. I see guys taking 25mgs exemstane everday for a 45,mg 4 week epi cycle.... theres so much wrong there. 45 is too low 4 weeks is too short and you dont need AI with epi. Take AI when you start getting estro sides. Another one is your first cycle should be halo or epi where the fahk did that come from. Ypur first cycle should be test deca and maybe dbol all made for human use. My firdt cycle was superdrol and trenevar half way through i started test, trenbolone and masteron and dropped superdrol ive tried SD 3x all during this same "cycle" its great i get very strong but uts toxic as ****. Blood work tells alot get lots of bloods stay safe and have fun. Those are what people should be focusing on steroids i say steroids that includes phs its the same thing arent big bad scarey things forums make them out to be. I highly sugest trying to get on gh15 if your into horomones and youll learn the truth there. The next best would be probably geard up FB page also closed page i think competitors only but maybe if your jacked or in great shape even without stage pics tbeyll let you in. You can however listen to geared up podcasts and theres so much info on there its amazing. Ok rant over i apologive i coach for a living some of you know that i have alot of clients on here i dont sponsor this forum but i sponsor many others but i get the worst questions from people who get all their info from forums someinfo is good yes but research and most importantly hands on experience should be a requirement before beinf allowed to give bbing advice. The problem again is the 170 pound 6 foot guy behind thw keyboard giving advixe on a subject they have no business advising people about. I know i was one of those people. Now couple years 80+ pounds 11 shows 3x national and training countless people for shows i feel i earned a spot to give advice on certain subjects. Im not a powerlifter id like to be i lift heavy relevant to me and train like one but my numbers wouldnt get me anywhere on stage so i definitly shouldnt give powerlifting advice. Guyd like AB with huge numbers and multiple meets they should give advice on PLing. If youve never touched a steroid you should not be telling people how to run a cycle. If youve never competed or have never been low singles BF% you shouldnt be giving body comp advice if youve never been on stage your not a bber and shouldnt give bbing advice. Thats totally my opinion and by the length of this post you guys must know i have very little to do today and am bored. I guess to sum things up if your not experienced just sit back and learn instead of giving uneducated advice. I love helping people i do it full time im on the clock paying myself right now but i feel ive paid my dues and put the time and work and research in to be able to give semi good advice. Just my opinion on a slow work day. Theres some great guys om here you should listen too amd that i learn from even some of my clients i feel they know more then me about alot of things ok im really stopping now maybe some oher leople would care to chime in
Volvo140G
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I wonder if he's lonely up on that pedestal
McCrew530
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kinda being a d1ck there bro. Matty has been here a while and has accomplished a lot. No need to be condescending.
Volvo140G
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Twas a bit of a humble brag on his part, but I'm just ribbing him a bit. Sarcasm gets lost on the internet sometimes.
McCrew530
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I hear yea man tone is hard to decipher online
Cheers
Volvo140G
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I haven't heard a bad thing about it from logs/reviews ive read.
Seems versatile and by all accounts mild, which personally I appreciate.
Stoked for an upcoming run. I'm not gonna log but I'll share an extensive review somewhere for anyone who's trying to learn more about the compound.
Seems versatile and by all accounts mild, which personally I appreciate.
Stoked for an upcoming run. I'm not gonna log but I'll share an extensive review somewhere for anyone who's trying to learn more about the compound.
Toren
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I'm on day 3 of Diabolix right now. I am stacking it with another compound as well, but in a staggered set-up. I want to see what happpens within the first two weeks, while running it solo.
Diabolix - 1/2/3/4/5 (weeks) (Starting @ 45mg and bumping up as i see fit)
Pmag or Halo - 0/0/3/4/5/6/7/8 (weeks) (75-100 mg range)
It's doubtful that I will log it but I will do a full review at the end so more people have feedback on the compound. Despite the fact I am only three days in @ 45mg, I have a feeling that the compound is mild as well. Time will tell the truth, though.
Diabolix - 1/2/3/4/5 (weeks) (Starting @ 45mg and bumping up as i see fit)
Pmag or Halo - 0/0/3/4/5/6/7/8 (weeks) (75-100 mg range)
It's doubtful that I will log it but I will do a full review at the end so more people have feedback on the compound. Despite the fact I am only three days in @ 45mg, I have a feeling that the compound is mild as well. Time will tell the truth, though.
mattys4
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Mild on sides and toxicity pretty strong though. I had decent progress in either direction gain or leaning/recomp but obviously i adjusted my diet towards each goal
mattys4
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No not lonely at all. There are quite a few who understand what im saying your obviously not one of them
Toren
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Sounds like I should enjoy my run then. I need to re-read your log as I have only had time to skim through it. Thanks for the feedback!