Laxogenin 5a-hydroxy (str3ngth)

akazo said:
I have never heard of this before, but being a bit of a supplement junkie, I want to try it out... hopefully NP will not run out in 5 minutes with the big sale coming up.

I do have a couple of questions.

1. Everyone says it dries fast. So no worries about applying 30 minutes pre workout in a very hot Florida garage where I sweat so much I have to change shirts during my workout?

2. The anabolic properties are compared to anavar... but anavar is a poor choice for bulking. Is this really effective for bulking or is it more suited for cutting?

Thanks!
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Hey brother I would be more than happy to answer these two questions you have.
First regarding the application transdermal are meant to be there for a slower absorption, as to the absorption rate the Dermastrength provides I was not part of that team so I am not sure about that part. What I have been doing is applying it after my evening shower while my pours are open and letting it set in over night. From there I work out early in the am Ill work out take a shower in the AM and continue my cycle. I have also been supplementing and additional 100mg of oral Strength around my applications to keep my levels up.
As to your plan I wouldn’t apply it then go sweat it out immediately, while it does dry quickly I believe you would force what has dried out of your skin if you dosed the transdermal in that nature.
On to the anabolic properties, The major thing I have noticed is the increase in strength. I seem to have more "POP" in my work outs I havent gone from deadlifting 400- 500 but I have gone from 450-475 in three weeks, some of these gains I can attribute to me not pushing my self to the max but I can say there is something extra there. On the topic of body composition I will say I have a leaner Dryer look to me again its nothing spectacular over night but the subtle changes are there. I look forward to the upcoming two months to see how these progressions continue to take place.
I hope this helped brother
 
McCrew530 said:
Hey brother I would be more than happy to answer these two questions you have. First regarding the application transdermal are meant to be there for a slower absorption, as to the absorption rate the Dermastrength provides I was not part of that team so I am not sure about that part. What I have been doing is applying it after my evening shower while my pours are open and letting it set in over night. From there I work out early in the am Ill work out take a shower in the AM and continue my cycle. I have also been supplementing and additional 100mg of oral Strength around my applications to keep my levels up. As to your plan I wouldn't apply it then go sweat it out immediately, while it does dry quickly I believe you would force what has dried out of your skin if you dosed the transdermal in that nature. On to the anabolic properties, The major thing I have noticed is the increase in strength. I seem to have more "POP" in my work outs I havent gone from deadlifting 400- 500 but I have gone from 450-475 in three weeks, some of these gains I can attribute to me not pushing my self to the max but I can say there is something extra there. On the topic of body composition I will say I have a leaner Dryer look to me again its nothing spectacular over night but the subtle changes are there. I look forward to the upcoming two months to see how these progressions continue to take place. I hope this helped brother
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Solid reply man! I'm using dermaSt3ngth, but I'm in pct so for me it's more about keeping gains, which I believe it's helping pretty well.
 
tommurph said:
Yep, yep, your right! I'm going to run this through to next cycle and keep those gains coming!
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Nice I think I am going to be staying light till winter, so I will be adding in their EP1C for a couple of months and maybe a light OSTA boost for 8 weeks
 
McCrew530 said:
Nice I think I am going to be staying light till winter, so I will be adding in their EP1C for a couple of months and maybe a light OSTA boost for 8 weeks
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Cool man, I stated Ep1c about a week ago, but nothing to report on that yet. I'll be running these until October 1st, then starting Stenadrol and Tr3st for a 6 week bulk run.
 
tommurph said:
Cool man, I stated Ep1c about a week ago, but nothing to report on that yet. I'll be running these until October 1st, then starting Stenadrol and Tr3st for a 6 week bulk run.
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Super sick, what dose are you running ep1c at?
 
McCrew530 said:
Hey brother I would be more than happy to answer these two questions you have.
First regarding the application transdermal are meant to be there for a slower absorption, as to the absorption rate the Dermastrength provides I was not part of that team so I am not sure about that part. What I have been doing is applying it after my evening shower while my pours are open and letting it set in over night. From there I work out early in the am Ill work out take a shower in the AM and continue my cycle. I have also been supplementing and additional 100mg of oral Strength around my applications to keep my levels up.
As to your plan I wouldn’t apply it then go sweat it out immediately, while it does dry quickly I believe you would force what has dried out of your skin if you dosed the transdermal in that nature.
On to the anabolic properties, The major thing I have noticed is the increase in strength. I seem to have more "POP" in my work outs I havent gone from deadlifting 400- 500 but I have gone from 450-475 in three weeks, some of these gains I can attribute to me not pushing my self to the max but I can say there is something extra there. On the topic of body composition I will say I have a leaner Dryer look to me again its nothing spectacular over night but the subtle changes are there. I look forward to the upcoming two months to see how these progressions continue to take place.
I hope this helped brother
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Thanks for the detailed response, I appreciate it. I saw where someone mentioned preworkout, but just spreading it out evenly is what the bottle said so I guess I will go that route.

I will grab some in the upcoming sale and then pair this with epi after I finish my ARA experiment.
 
akazo said:
Thanks for the detailed response, I appreciate it. I saw where someone mentioned preworkout, but just spreading it out evenly is what the bottle said so I guess I will go that route.

I will grab some in the upcoming sale and then pair this with epi after I finish my ARA experiment.
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Right on IMO its a very solid natural product. Feel free to hit me up with any other questions brother
 
What would give the better gains, a cycle of this or a Ostarine cycle?

I have done a OL Ostarine (+OL ep1c) cycle before 20mg/8weeks and gained 4-5lbs.
 
I just started my own stack with follidrone,testofreak, and anogenin. I was thinking 1 testofreak,1follidrone in the morning, then 1 of all 1hr pre workout. Sound like an ok idea? Any input would be great.
 
jayo84 said:
I just started my own stack with follidrone,testofreak, and anogenin. I was thinking 1 testofreak,1follidrone in the morning, then 1 of all 1hr pre workout. Sound like an ok idea? Any input would be great.
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I was also thinking, 1 testofreak in the morning, then 1 test,1anogenin, and 2 follidrone 1hr pre workout
 
jayo84 said:
I was also thinking, 1 testofreak in the morning, then 1 test,1anogenin, and 2 follidrone 1hr pre workout
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Should have just ran each thing on its own instead of introducing them all at the same time. Now you won't be able to tell which is effective and which is not, which is bad for the wallet in the future :P
 
kissdadookie said:
Should have just ran each thing on its own instead of introducing them all at the same time. Now you won't be able to tell which is effective and which is not, which is bad for the wallet in the future :P
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This does make sense! I just thought since they all work differently for different purposes, I would combine them for added effect...

In retrospect, maybe not the smartest, but I am that serious about getting to the next level lol.
 
jayo84 said:
This does make sense! I just thought since they all work differently for different purposes, I would combine them for added effect...

In retrospect, maybe not the smartest, but I am that serious about getting to the next level lol.
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It's not about making gains with the help of supplements, it's about if something is not doing anything, you should know about it so that you don't buy it again in the future. LoL.
 
Got ya. Well fortunately, I was running follidrone on its own and I was seeing some improvement with endurance, I of course thought, well lets make it even better with adding anogenin. In hopes of seeing more strength gains along side the endurance I was seeing from follidrone.
 
jayo84 said:
Got ya. Well fortunately, I was running follidrone on its own and I was seeing some improvement with endurance, I of course thought, well lets make it even better with adding anogenin. In hopes of seeing more strength gains along side the endurance I was seeing from follidrone.
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Well, at least you know the follidrone probably works, you just can't be sure if the laxogenin works :P

Personally, laxogenin to me feels like it at least has some adaptogenic qualities, at least in terms to normalizing my stimulant sensitivity. So it's at least doing something that is of benefit, not really sure if it's all that anabolic though.
 
kissdadookie said:
Well, at least you know the follidrone probably works, you just can't be sure if the laxogenin works :P

Personally, laxogenin to me feels like it at least has some adaptogenic qualities, at least in terms to normalizing my stimulant sensitivity. So it's at least doing something that is of benefit, not really sure if it's all that anabolic though.
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Good to know, I am unsure what to expect exactly. How did you take it?
 
kissdadookie said:
Well, at least you know the follidrone probably works, you just can't be sure if the laxogenin works :P

Personally, laxogenin to me feels like it at least has some adaptogenic qualities, at least in terms to normalizing my stimulant sensitivity. So it's at least doing something that is of benefit, not really sure if it's all that anabolic though.
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People should know Laxo is adaptogen and those claims such as anabolic/androgenic ratio similar Anavar and Tests showed that protein synthesis increased by over 200% are just Marketing claims. I bet Mixel will agree with me here and if you look close to all laxo product writeup its copy and paste info. Even info wrote by mixel they used. Thats shame
 
Danes said:
People should know Laxo is adaptogen and those claims such as anabolic/androgenic ratio similar Anavar and Tests showed that protein synthesis increased by over 200% are just Marketing claims. I bet Mixel will agree with me here and if you look close to all laxo product writeup its copy and paste info. Even info wrote by mixel they used. Thats shame
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Do some more reading, TD Strength as in Dermastrength has been giving users exceptional results
 
Danes said:
People should know Laxo is adaptogen and those claims such as anabolic/androgenic ratio similar Anavar and Tests showed that protein synthesis increased by over 200% are just Marketing claims. I bet Mixel will agree with me here and if you look close to all laxo product writeup its copy and paste info. Even info wrote by mixel they used. Thats shame
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I did see alot of copy paste, but I also read reviews from a few people that seemed legit. So i assume you're saying this could be a waste of money?? Is there anything natural that works? Natadrol maybe?
 
jayo84 said:
I did see alot of copy paste, but I also read reviews from a few people that seemed legit. So i assume this could be a waste of money?? Is there anything natural that works? Natadrol maybe?
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Phosphatidic acid.
Ara.

Non-steroidal: OL ostar1ne
 
Olympus Labs said:
Do some more reading, TD Strength as in Dermastrength has been giving users exceptional results
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I was actually looking into getting your product ep1c.
 
The Engineer said:
Phosphatidic acid.
Ara.

Non-steroidal: OL ostar1ne
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I have seen the term ara before. what is that? and do you stack the items you mentioned? or try individually?
 
Olympus Labs said:
Contaygious is stacking almost everything, EP1C, Dermastrength, Ostar1ne, PA, ARA, etc.
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dang, ok. Well olympus I may have to give your products a try. Love the background music btw :)

Edit: I will purchase OSTAR1NE if it ever shows up on amazon!
 
jayo84 said:
dang, ok. Well olympus I may have to give your products a try. Love the background music btw :)

Edit: I will purchase OSTAR1NE if it ever shows up on amazon!
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Cool, you won't be disappointed with any of the natural options we do offer, we also have elim1nate which you could look in to as well.
 
Olympus Labs said:
Cool, you won't be disappointed with any of the natural options we do offer, we also have elim1nate which you could look in to as well.
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I will look into running, Elim1nate,Ep1c, and OSTAR1NE for my next cycle then.

Any idea if OSTAR1NE will be on amazon?
 
Olympus Labs said:
Do some more reading, TD Strength as in Dermastrength has been giving users exceptional results
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Sir, i am not bashing Laxogenin :)
I have good experience with laxo, ecdysteroids from uzbekistan and it works! It has anabolic effect and many health benefits too .

i am just saying there are some false info about Laxo
 
jayo84 said:
I will look into running, Elim1nate,Ep1c, and OSTAR1NE for my next cycle then.

Any idea if OSTAR1NE will be on amazon?
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Transform is better than eliminate.

Do ostarine alone or with epic, not with an estro blocker. You want the estrogen from the ostarine.
 
jayo84 said:
Got ya. Well fortunately, I was running follidrone on its own and I was seeing some improvement with endurance, I of course thought, well lets make it even better with adding anogenin. In hopes of seeing more strength gains along side the endurance I was seeing from follidrone.
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Anogenin is a great product and ask Danes about dosing it.

kissdadookie said:
50 mg's first thing in the morning preworkout.50 mg's with my evening before bed protein shake (40-50 grams).
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This is a good dosing protocol.

Danes said:
People should know Laxo is adaptogen and those claims such as anabolic/androgenic ratio similar Anavar and Tests showed that protein synthesis increased by over 200% are just Marketing claims. I bet Mixel will agree with me here and if you look close to all laxo product writeup its copy and paste info. Even info wrote by mixel they used. Thats shame
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The Engineer said:
Phosphatidic acid. Ara.Non-steroidal: OL ostar1ne
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Ara is Xfactor or XGels.
 
Currently looking at x-factor. May just buy it! Looks like great reviews.
 
koi1214 said:
NutraPlanet has a 10% sale right now
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Thanks for all the great info. looks like I can get x-gels a little less expensive. I am probably going to try it. You seem very knowledgeable on this stuff. Should I run my follidron,anogenin, testofreak stack out? Or switch ara in somewhere? Thanks again!
 
Ostarine is not natty btw. It's a steroid that is technically not a steroid. Experimental drug actually is the best way to describe it currently ;)
 
kissdadookie said:
Ostarine is not natty btw. It's a steroid that is technically not a steroid. Experimental drug actually is the best way to describe it currently ;)
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It's a non-steroidal steroid.

Phew... Say that ten times fast and tell me you don't get a headache.
 
jayo84 said:
Thanks for all the great info. looks like I can get x-gels a little less expensive. I am probably going to try it. You seem very knowledgeable on this stuff. Should I run my follidron,anogenin, testofreak stack out? Or switch ara in somewhere? Thanks again!
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You myswell finish it out.In regards to Xgels,You dose it preworkout only at 1-1.5 grams..Maybe a SNS rep can help T-Bone mw1 Jiigzz

BTW testofreak sux:biglaugh:
 
jayo84 said:
Thanks for all the great info. looks like I can get x-gels a little less expensive. I am probably going to try it. You seem very knowledgeable on this stuff. Should I run my follidron,anogenin, testofreak stack out? Or switch ara in somewhere? Thanks again!
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Buy Fearn Soy Lecithin or Optima Soy Lecithin (2 tablespoons prior workout gives u 1.2g Phosphatidic acid. To make it easier for you this is conclution from a study done on Phosphatidic acid "Supplementation with soy-derived PA can improve responses in skeletal muscle hypertrophy, lean body mass, and maximal strength."

Run Soy lecithin with ArA and you will love it.
 
Danes said:
Buy Fearn Soy Lecithin or Optima Soy Lecithin (2 tablespoons prior workout gives u 1.2g Phosphatidic acid. To make it easier for you this is conclution from a study done on Phosphatidic acid "Supplementation with soy-derived PA can improve responses in skeletal muscle hypertrophy, lean body mass, and maximal strength."

Run Soy lecithin with ArA and you will love it.
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Going to run this in pct with anabeta. Beautiful.
 
The Engineer said:
Going to run this in pct with anabeta. Beautiful.
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It sounds damn beautifull!

I really enjoy HMB FA . I do have severe sleep apnea and DOMS and recovery can be horrible. while on HMB FA , i really dont feel any.DOMS. i can train muscles more often and even then no DOMS.

I believe many people dont understand how HMB FA works.

i mean if you work out 3 times at week and eating like a animal then it would be waste of money. If you train much,cutting etc it will be beneficial as Anti Catabolic ingredient
 
jayo84 said:
I will look into running, Elim1nate,Ep1c, and OSTAR1NE for my next cycle then.

Any idea if OSTAR1NE will be on amazon?
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Just buy it at Orbit they I believe that they are still doing a 25% off sales with the code OLYMPUS25
 
Danes said:
Buy Fearn Soy Lecithin or Optima Soy Lecithin (2 tablespoons prior workout gives u 1.2g Phosphatidic acid. To make it easier for you this is conclution from a study done on Phosphatidic acid "Supplementation with soy-derived PA can improve responses in skeletal muscle hypertrophy, lean body mass, and maximal strength."

Run Soy lecithin with ArA and you will love it.
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I am certainly interested in trying this. I see Lecithin cheap, does that matter?
 
jayo84 said:
Thanks for all the great info. looks like I can get x-gels a little less expensive. I am probably going to try it. You seem very knowledgeable on this stuff. Should I run my follidron,anogenin, testofreak stack out? Or switch ara in somewhere? Thanks again!
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If you have the other stuff on hand, use that first then add in Xgels to a new stack, or run it solo. 1-1.5g (4-6 gel caps) pre workout, workout days only. :D PM me if you need help with anything
 
Jiigzz said:
If you have the other stuff on hand, use that first then add in Xgels to a new stack, or run it solo. 1-1.5g (4-6 gel caps) pre workout, workout days only. :D PM me if you need help with anything
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Excellent. Will do!
 
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