L- Tryrosine for PCT

Coolkat

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Anybody ever use the amino acid L-Tyrosine to help combat the PCT depression?

I have used a 500mg capsule in the morning sometimes and my mood is lifted. I have read it has been used for some drug withdrawl symptoms of cocaine.

I am trying to avoid my emotional crash like the last PCT. Seemed to be the Clomid; too many mood swings. What does anyone think about a HCG, Nolva, and ? PCT???

Thanks
 
I'm sure it would help with mood some, worth a shot anyways. I have some but really havent been using it, may throw it in and see what happens. You probably dont want to use HCG to much during post cycle as it will keep your HPTA suppressed, but you could try it for the first couple weeks of post cycle, maybe 250-500IU eod for 2 weeks. I use it during all my cycles now, and it makes a big difference in coming into pct smoothly. It also seems to help my mood out also. When I was on tren this last cycle, I decided to skip a few HCG shots that way I could save more for the end, the weeks that I skipped shots I was in a terrible mood and really aggressive. But as soon as I started the HCG back up, my mood mellowed out somewhat and everything was much more stable. You might want to also try switching to nolva instead of clomid, I will never run clomid from all the side effects it has, Nolva is proven to be just as good if not better with less sides.
 
Coolkat said:
What does anyone think about a HCG, Nolva, and ? PCT???
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You shouldn't use hCG during PCT, you should run it with your cycle, since it suppresses LH.

Having said that, if you didn't run hCG with your cycle and you're suffering from testicular atrophy, running hCG post cycle is better than not running it, since you'll get your testicles back up and running faster that way. 500iu EOD for a couple weeks, while running Nolva at 40mg ED, is a reasonable thing to do in this case. Make sure to stop the hCG and then keep running the Nolva (preferrably for another three weeks, tapering 20/20/10); this will get your LH levels up and let you recover nicely.

If you can afford it, IGF-1 should make for a very friendly PCT in terms of anabolism, though I don't see any reason to believe that it will prevent a crash as such. I don't have any hard evidence of this, but I've seen anecdotal reports that IGF-1 will also help with testicular atrophy.

-kwantam
 
Don't run HCG past your cycle...or at least not "a few weeks past". Use it during and if you have to at the very end but dont run it past..your just delaying recovery. As for l-tyrosine, I use it ED so the whole PCT thing doesnt apply for me. But I would use it. L-tyro is a great supp period. Also potentiates other stims for pre-workout.
 
IMO

it's fine to use HCG post cycle, as long as it's before you start running clomid. HCG can be suppresive of LH function , so you dont' want to use it once you've begun PCT protocols.

As for L-Tyrosine , it has a really low rate of conversion to seratonin , and in my opinion is not a good choice as a depresssion med.

But it is rather good as a cortisol blocker, which your body will produce in the absense of androgens. So why not run anyway, not going to hurt.

as for depression, my personal choice would be for some 5-HTP and maybe some St John Wort. Cant go wrong there...

cheers

WOT
 
WOT said:
IMO

it's fine to use HCG post cycle, as long as it's before you start running clomid. HCG can be suppresive of LH function , so you dont' want to use it once you've begun PCT protocols.

As for L-Tyrosine , it has a really low rate of conversion to seratonin , and in my opinion is not a good choice as a depresssion med.

But it is rather good as a cortisol blocker, which your body will produce in the absense of androgens. So why not run anyway, not going to hurt.

as for depression, my personal choice would be for some 5-HTP and maybe some St John Wort. Cant go wrong there...

cheers

WOT
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Seratonin is not the only cause/culprit in depression. Many people with depression hate the effects of straight SSRI's, but function extraordinarily well on wellbutrin and other anti's that affect other pathways. NE, dopamine etc.
 
N-Acetyl-Tyrosine (NAT) is the acetylated derivative of the conditionally essential amino acid, L-tyrosine. Tyrosine can be made from the amino acid phenylalanine and is therefore not essential in the diet, provided there is sufficient phenylalanine to cover tyrosine needs.

L-Dihydroxyphenylalanine (L-DOPA), the hydroxylated product of tyrosine, is a precursor to the catecholamine neurotransmitters dopamine, norepinephrine and epinephrine. Tyrosine is also a precursor to pigments known as melanins. It has been known since the early 1930s that patients with phenylketonuria (PKU), who must adhere to a low phenylalanine diet, have have a tendency to have fair hair. Tyrosine used for the synthesis of melanins may originate from plasma tyrosine or from phenylalanine after hydroxylation with phenylalanine hydroxylase. Dopaminergic neurons may be more sensitive to tyrosine depletion than norepinephrinergic ones.

Tyrosine hydroxylase (TH) catalyzes first step in dopamine synthesis, the hydroxylation of L-tyrosine to form L-3,4-dihydroxyphenylalanine (L-DOPA). An amino acid decarboxylase removes carbon dioxide from L-DOPA to form dopamine. Thus, all dopaminergic neurons contain these two enzymes. Cells that synthesis norepinephrine and epinephrine also produce these enzymes; however, rather than releasing dopamine, it is rapidly converted into norepinephrine by dopamine-beta-carboxylase. Neurons that have all three enzymes are thus called norepinephrinergic (noradrenergic) neurons.

Tetrahydrobiopterin (BH4) is an essential cofactor for tyrosine hydroxylase (as well as the other aromatic amino acid hydroxylases) possibly with involvement from nitric oxide synthase. BH4 is derived from dietary folates or synthetic folic acid supplements. Impaired hydroxylation of tyrosine and tryptophan due to deficiency of BH4 reduces the formation of catecholamine and serotonin
 
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