Seems like it stimulates some and helps sleep with others? Is there a consensus?
Wow, exactly this. 1st night was best night for years. Then I had my 2nd and 3rd night being restless and stopped it, couldnt afford to have a restless night at a 4-5hours sleepI've recently started ksm-66, from reading on the forum I decided to have split dose 300mg in the AM & another 300mg before bed.
The 1st night was my best night sleep in a long time, then the second night I was restless for half the night! It has since settled and just over a week in and sleep in good!
Me too man. I posted on another thread that it was helping my sleep. And it did, for like the first 2-3 nights. But now I've been very restless. I take it with dinner, around 8:30 p.m., and get to bed around 10-10:30 p.m.Wow, exactly this. 1st night was best night for years. Then I had my 2nd and 3rd night being restless and stopped it, couldnt afford to have a restless night at a 4-5hours sleep
Seems like a pattern here, so no coincidence. Like Angrypolak says maybe exact timing is the key. I do remember the 1st time to be 10min before bed or at least very close to it, but cant' remember the exact time at the other nights. I guess we have to play with time and see what happens. Sadly I have rut out of it and I didn't intent to stock up again. Now I am considering it..Me too man. I posted on another thread that it was helping my sleep. And it did, for like the first 2-3 nights. But now I've been very restless. I take it with dinner, around 8:30 p.m., and get to bed around 10-10:30 p.m.
Yeah man, I know the feeling. Somebody stole my gym bag yesterday and all I dreamed of last night was me going in this morning and asking people if they had seen it. I felt horrible when I awoke. I still didn't get the dang thing back in my dream or reality either. KSM seemed to do this to me (not this time, as I have none atm) frequently when taken too early. Sensoril treated me pretty well iirc though.My sleep was pretty bad on KSM. My dreams were more vivid but it wasn't really a good thing - I almost felt like I was dreaming the whole time I was asleep and actually woke up exhausted from that. I think it made me sleep much lighter than usual and I felt like I didn't get a lot of slow wave sleep which is imperative for recovery.
Despite KSM being used in everything nowadays.... I do feel that Sensoril has more profound affects than KSM as it seems much more potent. I can take KSM and not notice anything while Sensoril definitely gives me an unmistakable relaxed feeling and makes it easier to sleep as well.I've read that it is energizing and that Sensoril is more sleep inducing/relaxing. I've never used Sensoril...But I've wondered is KSM may be better in the morning and Sensoril at night.
I can second that through my own anecdotes.Individual response varies by the person on how/if KSM-66 affects their sleep.
M-Test contains 695 mg. per daily dose and I divide my dosage first thing in the morning and then around 8 to 10 hours later and it doesn't affect my sleep. On days where I forgot my morning dose and take the full dose later I've noticed that I get kind of a second wind and wind up being awake later than I usually am but it doesn't affect my quality of sleep, it just makes me stay up later as in not feeling like I want to go to sleep.
As far as KSM-66 vs. Sensoril, this is something I've studied and experimented with a lot over the last year and I have to say that my personal experience supports what the clinical data on them seems to support as well and that's that KSM-66 is better for test boosting and athletic performance whereas Sensoril is better for stress and relaxation.
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