The problem is kratom is highly addictive and causes withdrawals when you try to stop, so "natural" dosent mean much.
Now don't get me wrong I'm not bashing kratom, it's a great option for some ppl, but the user must beware
Yea a lot of natural stuff can create serious issues, if not understood and respected. Many seem to get fooled by something being natural and think that it can't be bad/difficult to handle, or as bad/difficult as synthetic drugs, but that's not allways the case. Like Phenibut; It's basically gaba with an added phenyl ring to help it cross the BBB (IIRC), but it can get very addictive and induce some pretty bad withdrawal symptoms.
And like Smont said, I'm not bashing anything either, nor am I against people utilizing these things, not at all. Having struggled with sleep issues for years, I really like having Phenibut as a back up for occasional use. I also have a script for Benzos, which I try to use only on rare occasions and I treat them the same as Phenibut.
And I don't know what thread this was