King + Kong Stack

okay but as for On Cycle & PCT it should look something like this and just Keep the PHs Simple?

On Cycle:
(may not need) ANTIESTROL by Platinum Nutra (Run for 4wks) & Breakthrough Labs Defense & TUCDA

PCT:
Nolvadex & Breakthrough Labs Balance

After PCT:
Grizzly (MK-677) & Shred (GW) by Kodiak Labs & Breakthrough Labs Limits
 
King is garbage man. It’s not properly dosed and it’s insanely expensive, in addition to just being a stupid combination of PHs.

Just grab some m1a and a proper test base (preferably pinning actual test) and run a real cycle. Your gains will be better. Your body will feel better. And you will just have a much better experience. More does not equal better
 
He has a point regarding the addition of test, I Havnt took KING with out Test. My results may not be the same as other people will have. I keep a detailed log of each workout and without a doubt each lift has increased.
 
Chasingtails said:
King is garbage man. It’s not properly dosed and it’s insanely expensive, in addition to just being a stupid combination of PHs.

Just grab some m1a and a proper test base (preferably pinning actual test) and run a real cycle. Your gains will be better. Your body will feel better. And you will just have a much better experience. More does not equal better
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But basic On Cycle and PCT will consist of this correct?

On Cycle:
(Run for 4wks) & Breakthrough Labs Defense & TUCDA

PCT:
Nolvadex & Breakthrough Labs Balance

After PCT:
Grizzly (MK-677) & Shred (GW) by Kodiak Labs & Breakthrough Labs Limits
 
Laxarcher13 said:
He has a point regarding the addition of test, I Havnt took KING with out Test. My results may not be the same as other people will have. I keep a detailed log of each workout and without a doubt each lift has increased.
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What was in your King? I'm actually confusing myself now because the Medfit RX website has this for King:

KING 60 Tabs (5 pro-hormone compound)
Max LMG 50mg,
DMZ 30mg,
Methyl 1 Alpha 20mg,
Methyldiazirinol 20mg,
MSTEN 6mg

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Then they have another one that is different. I'm guessing this is the old one? Or the new one?
 
I bought mine about 5 weeks ago, the ingredient profile matches what you wrote. If im remember this right, they have recently reformulated KING. For a while it wasn’t even available
 
Laxarcher13 said:
I have to disagree with you. I’ve seen the tests showing what’s in each pill, they hold value to each ingredient.
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This isn’t what I was referring to, but recently we had a forum member post that he had knowledge that what was on the label didn’t necessarily match what was in the bottle.

What I was talking about was assuming that it contains what’s advertised. So you’re taking 2 tabs a day...that’s 20mg trest, 60mg dmz, and 40mg m1a (among other things). I loved dmz at 60, but a lot of people’s bp can’t handle it. Throw in m1a, which is almost undoubtedly the strongest methylated ph currently available legally (and also one with the most sides as a general matter), and the one hour of the day that you’ve got some oral trest pumping is not enough to keep your body feeling Alright

TLDR: the product isn’t properly balanced. One would need to add additional ingredients to have a successful cycle. This is precisely why it’s often advised not to buy these multiple-compound products
 
Op - you need to listen to the advice you’ve had. The stack is ridiculous and you honestly need to spend ALOT more time researching and learning about this stuff or your just gonna mess yourself up.

No one is trying to pi55 on your chips here, genuinely everyone is just trying to help you avoid screwing yourself up.

Take some time, choose a stack with a couple of compounds, get a proper pct in place, get a proper ai on hand (doesn’t matter how much your missus says she loves you, that girls running for the hills when you grow a third titty) and use the ridiculous amount of info on this site to plan a proper, safe cycle from which you can make and keep some gains.
 
Mikelopez said:
So can these 2 be stacked with proper support and pct?
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Sure, but only if you could drink from a firehose without drowning.

It's almost like having a pizza, with mini pizzas as toppings and those toppings have mini pizzas as toppings with those toppings have mini pizzas with toppings. Do you think any of us would survive the apocalypse should anyone actually make said pizza? My god. Think!
 
I don't want to encourage the OP to do this, but the masochist inside me is screaming, do it.
The reasonable adult who cares about his health is whispering, please don't..seriously don't.
 
Medfit rx kin I plan to run medfit rx king which is Max LMG 50mg, DMZ 30mg, Methyl 1 Alpha 20mg, Methyldiazirinol 20mg, MSTEN 6mg twice a day for 4 weeks with on cycle support and tucda followed be 4 weeks Nolva 40/40/20/20 How’s that look though plan wise no kong
 
Mikelopez said:
Medfit rx kin I plan to run medfit rx king which is Max LMG 50mg, DMZ 30mg, Methyl 1 Alpha 20mg, Methyldiazirinol 20mg, MSTEN 6mg twice a day for 4 weeks with on cycle support and tucda followed be 4 weeks Nolva 40/40/20/20 How’s that look though plan wise no kong
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Looks like you're suicidal.

Really bro.....that's why people just want to tell you guys....."f*** it, Run it!!!!"

You've gotten good advice from people who've used steroids for a long time (and are still alive to tell about it). The rest is up to you.
 
Bruv, listen to these cats. They have no skin in this game. The only reason people would tell you not to use this is cause they're looking out for you. Ive put insane things into my body and I would not touch this with a ten foot pole
 
Renew1 said:
Looks like you're suicidal.

Really bro.....that's why people just want to tell you guys....."f*** it, Run it!!!!"

You've gotten good advice from people who've used steroids for a long time (and are still alive to tell about it). The rest is up to you.
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looks like I’m prob gonna return it lol
 
Renew1 said:
Knock yourself out. Literally. LOL.
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Ok I’ve ran oral trest at 150mg Daily with rad 140 as my last cycle. I plan running it again the trest at 100mg daily 4 weeks with Olympus Labs oral Tr3n. I’ve heard up to 90 mg of tren. I I have both but have yet to run tr3n
 
Mikelopez said:
Ok I’ve ran oral trest at 150mg Daily with rad 140 as my last cycle. I plan running it again the trest at 100mg daily 4 weeks with Olympus Labs oral Tr3n. I’ve heard up to 90 mg of tren. I I have both but have yet to run tr3n
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The others have you covered on that car wreck of a concoction your wisely returning.....

On the trest try to get TD (assuming you don’t want to pin), TD much better than oral (although oral pwo can be a nice addition to TD trest as well).
 
Whisky said:
The others have you covered on that car wreck of a concoction your wisely returning.....

On the trest try to get TD (assuming you don’t want to pin), TD much better than oral (although oral pwo can be a nice addition to TD trest as well).
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yea last time I used TD and oral trest. Loved it tbh. I have a bottle of Tr3st and Tr3n. Was thinking running 4 weeks together. Wish I could get TD though as well lol
 
Whisky said:
The others have you covered on that car wreck of a concoction your wisely returning.....

On the trest try to get TD (assuming you don’t want to pin), TD much better than oral (although oral pwo can be a nice addition to TD trest as well).
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U think 100mg trest a day with 90mg tren for 4 weeks will suffice? I only have enough really for 4-6 weeks so pct would be nolva at 20/20/10/10 with a test booster
 
Mikelopez said:
U think 100mg trest a day with 90mg tren for 4 weeks will suffice? I only have enough really for 4-6 weeks so pct would be nolva at 20/20/10/10 with a test booster
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I’ve not run tren so couldn’t say but I’m using 100 td trest with 50 epistane right now and it’s doing a wonderful job..... my best guess is yes but it’s a guess bro
 
Mikelopez said:
Medfit rx kin I plan to run medfit rx king which is Max LMG 50mg, DMZ 30mg, Methyl 1 Alpha 20mg, Methyldiazirinol 20mg, MSTEN 6mg twice a day for 4 weeks with on cycle support and tucda followed be 4 weeks Nolva 40/40/20/20 How’s that look though plan wise no kong
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Whoa that's a ton of drugs
 
Mikelopez said:
Ok I’ve ran oral trest at 150mg Daily with rad 140 as my last cycle. I plan running it again the trest at 100mg daily 4 weeks with Olympus Labs oral Tr3n. I’ve heard up to 90 mg of tren. I I have both but have yet to run tr3n
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What did u get from trest 150 mg and RAD?
 
Just buy ONE compound and run it. DMZ alone or Msten alone (both can be found online with a little searching)...Maybe throw in some dermacrine or 4andro for lethargy...that's all you need. Youll have AMAZING results.
For cycle support, buy CEL's Cycle Assist and get a bottle or two of TUDCA.
Done.

Then for PCT run Nolva and add a test booster if you want...all the crap you got listed is just unnecessary junk gunking up you liver.
 
I ran MSten & 4-Andro last summer and LOVED IT!!! Really good recomp action, and leaned out while gaining detail. I did DMZ/Andro and it was good, more of a bulker but I got much more sides from the DMZ. Maybe I’ll stack them this summer
 
medinacirilo said:
I ran MSten & 4-Andro last summer and LOVED IT!!! Really good recomp action, and leaned out while gaining detail. I did DMZ/Andro and it was good, more of a bulker but I got much more sides from the DMZ. Maybe I’ll stack them this summer
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Did you run the DMZ with 4andro or 1andro? And what kinds of sides did you get from DMZ?
As far as i can remember from my first dmz run, i was surprised that I didn't get many sides...seems like it treated me well mentally and physically. My memory is trashed though haha. I do def remember that it gave me insane strength gains! Lifts went up for sure, and like a douche I was showing off arm wrestling one night about mid cycle and beat one of my friends that was twice my size. But of course later on about a month after PCT, we whipped me as usual. Really amazing what tweaking your hormones does overall!
Also, what dose did you run the DMZ at? Im thinking i will go with 16mg for the first week then bump to 32 for the remaining 3 weeks...depending on sides if they hit me bad or not...
 
Kratom267 said:
Did you run the DMZ with 4andro or 1andro? And what kinds of sides did you get from DMZ?
As far as i can remember from my first dmz run, i was surprised that I didn't get many sides...seems like it treated me well mentally and physically. My memory is trashed though haha. I do def remember that it gave me insane strength gains! Lifts went up for sure, and like a douche I was showing off arm wrestling one night about mid cycle and beat one of my friends that was twice my size. But of course later on about a month after PCT, we whipped me as usual. Really amazing what tweaking your hormones does overall!
Also, what dose did you run the DMZ at? Im thinking i will go with 16mg for the first week then bump to 32 for the remaining 3 weeks...depending on sides if they hit me bad or not...
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I ran it with 4-Andro transdermal oil. It’s been a while but I know I went higher then 32mg, total of 6 weeks. I got SEVERE back spasms and leg cramps. I wouldn’t even call them cramps, my legs would just lock up painfully! No issues mentally, or with libido. I did get a lot more strength in the gym, and carried an insane pump all day after. I’d do it again!
 
Fella in another thread went from zero to hero on this stuff. I say run it if you're willing to throw caution to the wind. But use strong support and make sure to dissolve under the tongue DO NOT SWALLOW!!!
 
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