Killn' The Cube: My powerlifting venture begins

Duramaxhd said:
What's the quote "no one has ever failed a lift cause there core/trunk was too strong
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I get the message that the quote is trying to convey, but it doesn't make sense to me logically.

Is it possible to fail a lift because any muscle group is too strong? You never fail a bench because your triceps are too strong, or a squat because your hamstrings are too strong. Hell, you never fail a OHP because your calves are too strong.

Wouldn't a better way of putting that be: "You never fail a lift because any muscle group is too strong?"

Sorry, I'm sitting here at work thinking too much.
 
I think what they are saying it is possible to have an over developed muscle interfere with a movement but an over developed trunk will almost never interfere
 
Duramaxhd said:
I think what they are saying it is possible to have an over developed muscle interfere with a movement but an over developed trunk will almost never interfere
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I guess what I'm not understanding is how an over-developed muscle, in general, would interfere with a movement.

If you're a quad dominant squatter and you miss a squat because your hamstrings are weak, that doesn't mean you missed the movement because of over-developed quads. I would say under-developed hamstrings would be the cause.

This is kind of along the kinds of the video you posted yesterday of Mike saying that you should anchor onto your strengths, and only when you're advanced and your weakness supersedes your strength, should you really hammer your weaknesses.

Am I missing something or totally over-thinking per usual?
 
I get what your saying I think he was stating that as a beginner /intermediate lifter u should not sacrifice training your strengths to train a weakness but u should train them just not as a main focus. as an advanced lifter your quads could be tapped to their potential so u could spend some time strictly training hamstrings with no consequences to quads..

That's the way I took it but I'm no expert
 
Duramaxhd said:
I get what your saying I think he was stating that as a beginner /intermediate lifter u should not sacrifice training your strengths to train a weakness but u should train them just not as a main focus. as an advanced lifter your quads could be tapped to their potential so u could spend some time strictly training hamstrings with no consequences to quads.. That's the way I took it but I'm no expert
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Same thing I took away from it as well.
 
Duramaxhd said:
What's the quote "no one has ever failed a lift cause there core/trunk was too strong
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I always word this differently: Your trunk and back are never strong enough. That can be argued too, but you'd have to reach a little harder to argue it.
 
CincyKiller45 said:
This is kind of along the kinds of the video you posted yesterday of Mike saying that you should anchor onto your strengths, and only when you're advanced and your weakness supersedes your strength, should you really hammer your weaknesses. Am I missing something or totally over-thinking per usual?
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I missed this video. Who is it?

And yes you think a lot more than needed here...not saying you are wrong though lol. Reminds me of saying "you only get to make one first impression." Think about that. It's trying to say make a good first impression which is great. But when you analyze it deeper does that expression matter? It is mathematically true, but with the large amount of variants that can lead up to one meeting between two parties does the very first impression hold the largest importance in the grand scheme of things?

Yea I hit you with some philosophical stuff here lol
 
rob112 said:
I missed this video. Who is it? And yes you think a lot more than needed here...not saying you are wrong though lol. Reminds me of saying "you only get to make one first impression." Think about that. It's trying to say make a good first impression which is great. But when you analyze it deeper does that expression matter? It is mathematically true, but with the large amount of variants that can lead up to one meeting between two parties does the very first impression hold the largest importance in the grand scheme of things? Yea I hit you with some philosophical stuff here lol
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Hmm. I would say the importance of a first impression is situational-based.

If I'm at a bar and I see a girl I want to take home, the first impression will determine if there's any subsequent impressions.

However, if I'm moving to college and I'm meeting someone that has already been slotted to be my roommate for the next year, the first impression wouldn't hold as much weight because we are going to be interacting for the next year regardless.
 
CincyKiller45 said:
Hmm. I would say the importance of a first impression is situational-based. If I'm at a bar and I see a girl I want to take home, the first impression will determine if there's any subsequent impressions. However, if I'm moving to college and I'm meeting someone that has already been slotted to be my roommate for the next year, the first impression wouldn't hold as much weight because we are going to be interacting for the next year regardless.
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See that cincy!? You're a thinker ma man haha

Just don't marry that girl you take home from a bar after a good first impression lol
 
Had a pretty alright time at the Arnold. First thing I did when I got there was hunt down Mark Bell. I wanted Knee sleeves and hammy bands but they were all out. Couldn't find the SBD booth either.

But, I was front row of the cage to see Kendal military press 500 and Hawthorne deadlift 600x3. Not bad, I don't regret going nuts to butts for 4 hours.
 
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Post workout:

-5 egg omelette with low fat cheese and red peppers and hot salsa on top

-flap jacked protein pancakes w/ high protein natural peanut butter and sugar free syrup

-protein shake w/ 1 scoop snickerdoodle protein, 1 cup oats, and 1 table spoon of coconut oil

Nothing fancy, but if I keep eating chicken 4x a day I'm going to throw up.
 
I get sick of the chicken too I try to mix it up with tuna, ham, and lean ground beef really want to find one of my buddy's willing to part with some deer meat

Edit :Mrs buttersworth light syrup is awsome only 20 calories per serving and u can't tell a difference
 
I'm pretty impressed that Stan doesn't eat chicken for some reason, lol. I def love red meat though.

This is what happens when I don't track closely enough:

Fat- 168
Carbs- 178
Protein- 338

Total calories- 3500
 
CincyKiller45 said:
I'm pretty impressed that Stan doesn't eat chicken for some reason, lol. I def love red meat though.

This is what happens when I don't track closely enough:

Fat- 168
Carbs- 178
Protein- 338

Total calories- 3500
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That happened to me when I started tracking in December. Fat 150 protein 160 carbs dangerously low lol.
 
herderdude said:
That happened to me when I started tracking in December. Fat 150 protein 160 carbs dangerously low lol.
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Haha, I used to smash carbs. Now I act like I'm scared of them.

But, now that I think about it I forgot to add in brown rice and an orange so that raises carbs about 70-80.

Have you been trying to lose any fat at all? I know you're amidst a cycle so I'm assuming you're just trying maximize on strength gains.
 
CincyKiller45 said:
Haha, I used to smash carbs. Now I act like I'm scared of them.

But, now that I think about it I forgot to add in brown rice and an orange so that raises carbs about 70-80.

Have you been trying to lose any fat at all? I know you're amidst a cycle so I'm assuming you're just trying maximize on strength gains.
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I am trying to drop weight, If my weight balloons, my gear won't fit and I won't be close enough to weight to make 220. EDIT: I always eat to lose on cycle anymore, the least I've ever gained is 8lbs and 12-15 is not uncommon. Something about my physiology always causes me to hold a ridiculous amount of glycogen and get really nice strength gains on every cycle.
 
It's been similar for since I started tracking. My fats are high, protein has been where I want it to high, and carbs surprisingly low. Granted I'll have more in my intra, but not much. I put some Oreos in my protein pudding I made and still had room for more carbs on the day.
 
Been a little while since I posted in here. Workouts are going well. Weight has been pretty steady. If I don't drop a lb in the next week I'll probably scale back on the cals a little.

Hit up some DE upper today. Was a little worn out from the amount of sex I had last night/pre gym, but it was still productive.

Still following everyone's logs nearly daily, just too lazy to post.
 
ME lower:

1.5" deficit deadlifts against chains (top weight):
465x3
515x3
525x2
535x2x2

Front squats:
275x5 beltless
Add belt
295x5
305x5x2

Suspended SSB GM: 205x8x3

Lying leg curl SS leg extensions: 20/20x4

Calves (DC)

Hit all my goals today. I'm phucking worn down now. Must eat steak.
 
ME upper:

2 board bench:
295x3
315x3
335x3x2
345x3

Incline BB:
225x8
235x8x2

Standing unilateral DB press: 55x10x3

Rope pull aparts: 20x5

Seated side later: 20x3

Car fly: 20x3

Solid day. Feeling pretty good.
 
Them's good two boards! How's that compare to PR territory?
 
I like the one I read from Paul Carter today about "Cardio eats muscle" saying that most people have more fat to lose than they think, so they blame the cardio when they lose the amount of weight they planned on losing and aren't photo shoot ready.

Knowing the standard you hold yourself to, I know you wouldn't underestimate the amount of fat you have to lose, but he made an interesting point. At this point I'm questioning where I planned on going with this.
 
herderdude said:
I like the one I read from Paul Carter today about "Cardio eats muscle" saying that most people have more fat to lose than they think, so they blame the cardio when they lose the amount of weight they planned on losing and aren't photo shoot ready. Knowing the standard you hold yourself to, I know you wouldn't underestimate the amount of fat you have to lose, but he made an interesting point. At this point I'm questioning where I planned on going with this.
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No, I know what you're saying. And it's true. This is why everyone is 10-14% on the internet.

Admittedly, as I cut down further I'm realizing I have more body-fat to lose than I once thought. I'm still going to stop myself at 12-14 weeks though. I need to put on some size.
 
herderdude said:
I like the one I read from Paul Carter today about "Cardio eats muscle" saying that most people have more fat to lose than they think, so they blame the cardio when they lose the amount of weight they planned on losing and aren't photo shoot ready. Knowing the standard you hold yourself to, I know you wouldn't underestimate the amount of fat you have to lose, but he made an interesting point. At this point I'm questioning where I planned on going with this.
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For sure, man.

I would definitely have more fat to lose at 215, but I think that at 215 I would be around 12-14% BF. That's all I'm really trying to get down to as a natural.

I just hope I can keep getting stronger. I don't care if this takes another 4 to 5 months really. Slow and steady..
 
ME lower:

Popped my hamstring again Friday, not nearly as bad as before, but it affected me enough to warrant a light day.

Squat:
325x3x3
355x3

Everything felt incredibly light despite being beltless. But again, it was only 355, lol.

Deadlift:
405x3
455x3
495x2
525x1
545x2x2 (Volume PR)

The second rep on the second set literally stayed just below my knee for 6 seconds before I managed to lock it out. My eyes about popped out of my skull.

Hack squat machine (60 sec rest):
4 plates per side x10x5

Leg curl SS extension: 12x4

Calves (DC)

Pretty happy about this. I really wanted to get 545x2x2 and I managed to get it. Hopefully my hamstring is 100% for next week.
 
ME upper:

Bench with chainz:
255 + a lot of chains x2x5
225 with less chains x5x2

CG floor press:
225x8
275x6x3

Banded Swiss bar skull crusher: a lot

Side lateral SS front raises

Flies

That's it. Feeling leaner and stronger.
 
Oh and random thoughts I feel like posting:

I'm probably going to be relocating. They can send me anywhere in the US. I hope it's not North Dakota or something dumb. Fingers crossed. I just can't turn down the career opportunity.

And some large mofo wants to make a powerlifting team and asked me to join. Dude is 5'10", at least 280 and barely any BF. I didn't know he was a powerlifter, but I now I do.

I just don't known if I want train with him. I'm sure he knows a bunch of sh1t and everything, but he has to be on absurd amounts of gear, and what he does might not benefit me.
 
Hard to tell if it will be good or not unless you got to see the session. He may be a really smart lifter and knows to account for individual differences, or he may just be...and I don't even like this term, a full blown meathead who is genetically gifted and does roids.

Cool stuff about the job. Hopefully you go somewhere cool.
 
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