Just finished first cycle, dick is dead help

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Hey guys, just finished my first pro hormone cycle of m-sten rx for 4 weeks and my libidio is kinda of there, but my dick literally can't get hard, for pct I am using liquid nolva as my serm which I'm using at 20/20/10/10 and I'm on day 2 of using it, I'm also using an ai from iron mag labs at 3 a day for 4 weeks, I also have a d asap attic acid powder from primaforce that I'm using at 3G a day for 4 weeks, what I'm also asking is if I should pick up some animal stak, and animal test to try and restart my libidio/test production or if that would be overdoing it and shut me down worse, those products are "natural" test boosters so yea, thanks guys
 
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I always use clomid with my pct even with Nolvadex.
 
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Nolvadex just blocks the estrogen receptors in the bread tissue. I would taper the AI you used on cycle and start taking clomid, clomid will help your testes to start producing again.
 
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I would order Clomid add it when it gets there. 25mg a day for 4 weeks.. It's really early in pct but incase that one was bunk...sounds like you might be really shut down hard.
 

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Ok how about the test or stak? And I just started the ai didn't use 1 on cycle
 
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Well that isn't helping lol you didn't use an AI so your estrogen levels are up and your natty test is really low. Get an AI, keep taking your Nolvadex, and get clomid. You should be fine, but always use an AI on cycle buddy.
 
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Animal stack is a hormonal stack you don't need to mess with anymore of those until you get yourself straightened out. If I remember right their M-stack is non hormonal if you want to you can use that but I don't really think it's going to do anything for you.
 
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The old animal stak was hormonal, im pretty sure now its just a test booster
 
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Maybe get some bloods done as well. Some
horny goat weed, DAA, and some OTC libidio boosters could help out.. If you are looking for an AI BPS has a new product Elimistane, it is an anti e and cortisol manager.
 
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you cant get hard or its difficult ? cause there is a big difference...1st one isnt that normal i believe for a ph cycle like this with a pct...2nd one is normal i guess...you should get a natty test booster use that clomid and you will propably be okey but getting some bloods would be nice too although if i were you id take em after my pct...
 

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Gonna be honest guys, I tried today and was able to get it up and I was able to but the erection felt weak and It died down as soon as I quit doing you know, haha so hopefully this nolva and daa is kicking in, it is only day 2
 
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Look up penis exercises lol sounds like it needs to be conditioned!
 

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Lol, pre cycle I would get concrete erections if I even bumped my dick, so I'll try to ride out pct and hope by the end I breaking **** with the rod again ��
 
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yea dude thats kinda normal...although seems that shut down hit you hard but if i were you i would wait till my pct ended to get worried...till then just wait and grab a test booster also...bumping daa may help also some people seem to feel greater effect on 6gramms / day! im sure you'll be okey bro! up your carbs and healthy fats too! ohh how old are you btw?
 

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Alright man thanks, only have a 4 weeks supply for 3G a day of the daa but I'll just wait till the end if pct to see how everything's going
 
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Don't change your pct, it's fine. Run as planned.

Just get some cialis or viagra. So much bad info in here.
 
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lol cialis or viagra? isnt that too much while he can wait till it gets back to action?
 
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Well that isn't helping lol you didn't use an AI so your estrogen levels are up and your natty test is really low. Get an AI, keep taking your Nolvadex, and get clomid. You should be fine, but always use an AI on cycle buddy.
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Animal stack is a hormonal stack you don't need to mess with anymore of those until you get yourself straightened out. If I remember right their M-stack is non hormonal if you want to you can use that but I don't really think it's going to do anything for you.
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, but always use an AI on cycle buddy.
um I wouldn't if you want the best gains.. estrogen can be your friend. just stating, I wouldn't use an AI unless its absolutely necessary, because it slows progress.
there are only a hand ful of hormones ive ever had to use an ai with. trest for example.
 
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The old animal stak was hormonal, im pretty sure now its just a test booster
yea I just saw they have a new Animal Stak out its been years since I've used any animal products.
 
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having an ai on hand is an entirely different point.
having all ancillary meds on hand is a must.
 
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With some people nolva kills libido. But two days in your PCT is nothing to get worried about...for the most part you're still shutdown especially 2 days after a m-sten cycle.

Also I would recommend a stronger AI then arimistane for PCT. Not for libido but for the fact the SERM just occupies the estrogen receptor and doesnt actually lower circulating estrogen. DAA is good. I personally run it at 6g. Run something for the increase in prolactin. Dopadex is a good option, Im using growth factor for that.


Continue your PCT. Look into some libido boosters like trib and maca. Tadalafil works well too. Calm down. If this is a problem after your PCT then get concerned and go to a physician. Run bloodwork to make sure everything is g2g.
 
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You may be expecting too much if you are only 2 days into PCT and wondering why sh*ts not back to normal yet. Takes longer than 2 days ..... as already stated .... continue your PCT and things should return to normal in due time. Clomid is helpful as has been mentioned already but even if you had stacked clomid with nolva you still would not be back in action after only 2 days ;)
 
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After I used brawn (epi), I used nolva with daa and maca root and I was fine.
 
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After I used brawn (epi), I used nolva with daa and maca root and I was fine.
Did a EPI cycle at the same as balla. Ran clomid, yohimbi, and OTC AHD from bpi. I was good in a couple days. Not 100% but far from dead. If anything yohimbi, DIm, and dhea are all available at you local vitamin store.
 

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If you're going to run daa, then get some caber for the erection killing prolactin you'll be making. I think the stuff is a waste and detrimental..i wont touch it. Infrequent use of proviron or epiandrosterone and maybe a little cialis should get you through the slump.
 
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I think caber may be way too strong for DAA.

Caber is better suited for tren sides then DAA prolactin issues.
 
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Should have timed your cycle ending with the week your wife/gf/whoever started her period. You'd have a whole week of limp noodle she'd never even notice, unless you were expecting oral gratification
 

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