USA ISO zero flux/nos, late release Celtic, VL transdermals

Iso flux was the original injectable Dienolon right? I had stocked up on that at one point The stuff look like motor oil lol. It is very popular amongst people who can't find it and it's really hard to find. I made a million phone calls reaching out to everyone I knew and nobody could find it anywhere other than a sketchy raw site from India
 
Versatile for sure and light on sides. I ran it 3 times with the final time going balls deep and hitting 400mg per week for 10 weeks. It was too strong at that level, extreme aggression but I was lean and hard while eating in a pretty decent surplus
 
Smont said:
Iso flux was the original injectable Dienolon right? I had stocked up on that at one point The stuff look like motor oil lol. It is very popular amongst people who can't find it and it's really hard to find. I made a million phone calls reaching out to everyone I knew and nobody could find it anywhere other than a sketchy raw site from India
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Isn't there a lot of pip with this inj? I remember dhb people saying it was unbearable pip, and now I see a lot of people selling it. I'm a little out of the loop as dhb was a newer compound a few years back and how people respond. But for some reason I was thinking I remember people saying dienelone was also pretty painful. I may be confused. I think dienelone was compared to being kinda like deca?

Edit: I know these are 2 different compounds I'm talking about just thinking out loud here.
 
FallenGod1 said:
Isn't there a lot of pip with this inj? I remember dhb people saying it was unbearable pip, and now I see a lot of people selling it. I'm a little out of the loop as dhb was a newer compound a few years back and how people respond. But for some reason I was thinking I remember people saying dienelone was also pretty painful. I may be confused. I think dienelone was compared to being kinda like deca?

Edit: I know these are 2 different compounds I'm talking about just thinking out loud here.
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It wasn't bad pip for me, But to be fair not many things give me a lot of post injection pain If they do it's usually just for one day
 
I'm weird I don't get many of the normal side effects that people get. I have a very high tolerance for things going wrong apparently. Like at one point in time I drank 30 drinks a day every single day and I didn't have any liver damage My enzymes would be high all the time on blood work but every time I would stop drinking within like a month they'd be back to normal. I used to party hard and suffer very little consequences. Now I'm probably going to pay the price when I get older, even though I don't do any of those things anymore, but my point is just I tolerate things very well so I am not the person anyone should judge their side effects based off of
 
Smont said:
I'm weird I don't get many of the normal side effects that people get. I have a very high tolerance for things going wrong apparently. Like at one point in time I drank 30 drinks a day every single day and I didn't have any liver damage My enzymes would be high all the time on blood work but every time I would stop drinking within like a month they'd be back to normal. I used to party hard and suffer very little consequences. Now I'm probably going to pay the price when I get older, even though I don't do any of those things anymore, but my point is just I tolerate things very well so I am not the person anyone should judge their side effects based off of
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I would say for me it was the same, in my 40s now and I think I definitely could and should have taken better care of myself. But I'm 47 now, all my bloods come back in range every time I've been checked in the past 5 years. Also have had slightly elevated liver enzymes at times, but I've absolutely punished my liver over my lifetime. I feel as good now and am in as good a shape as ive ever been (from an overall perspective). I try to take an overall approach now to my health, and all my training is centered around health, wellness and practicality.

Here's to hopefully more well years for you brother, cheers.
 
Smont said:
I'm weird I don't get many of the normal side effects that people get. I have a very high tolerance for things going wrong apparently. Like at one point in time I drank 30 drinks a day every single day and I didn't have any liver damage My enzymes would be high all the time on blood work but every time I would stop drinking within like a month they'd be back to normal. I used to party hard and suffer very little consequences. Now I'm probably going to pay the price when I get older, even though I don't do any of those things anymore, but my point is just I tolerate things very well so I am not the person anyone should judge their side effects based off of
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I can attest to this ^ .
Whenever @Smont posts about using large amounts of something, and not having any (obvious) side effects ....
I always tell people.... You're not Smont.
.... Do NOT expect your experience to be the same.
He is atypical.

:)
 
Zero pain with Dienolone. I ran 2ml per week for 10 weeks, not so much as a lump or anything for that matter
 
Renew1 said:
I can attest to this ^ .
Whenever @Smont posts about using large amounts of something, and not having any (obvious) side effects ....
I always tell people.... You're not Smont.
.... Do NOT expect your experience to be the same.
He is atypical.

:)
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Exactly, I'm an exception I'm definitely not the rule. If someone planned their cycle based off of what I did and the side effects I didn't get it could go horribly wrong for them. The only side effect I seem to get from things is gyno flare ups. Nothing else, maybe some slight loss of appetite from time to time but that's about it.
 
To be fair I don't really push doses of anything stupid high, and the few times I did it was for a very very short period of time so maybe things would be different if I started f****** around and finding out but I don't really want to lol. Especially now that I hit 40. The last time I used orals was when I got that slight appetite suppression and that didn't happen when I was younger so I'm assuming that's just part of aging as well. Anytime I've pushed a dose to a sketchy sounding number it was very short maybe 3 weeks 4 weeks long but a lot of times with orals that's enough to see bad elevations.
 
FallenGod1 said:
I would say for me it was the same, in my 40s now and I think I definitely could and should have taken better care of myself. But I'm 47 now, all my bloods come back in range every time I've been checked in the past 5 years. Also have had slightly elevated liver enzymes at times, but I've absolutely punished my liver over my lifetime. I feel as good now and am in as good a shape as ive ever been (from an overall perspective). I try to take an overall approach now to my health, and all my training is centered around health, wellness and practicality.

Here's to hopefully more well years for you brother, cheers.
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I'm doing similar things now, I'm looking into non steroid/gear options that can help improve my health and also improve the way that I look and perform trying to think more longevity. I just turned 40 like 2 weeks ago and I'm really just trying to go test, GH and leave a lot of the other stuff for very brief periods of time before I'm doing something important like some sort of strength competition or maybe I need to look my best for something. I also do a massive amount of cardio and I'm sure that helps with my health. I'm not out running miles everyday but I spend hours every week boxing and grappling and doing conditioning drills related to those 2 things.

Last night I put 2 ppl through a full body workout that was more focused on pull, I did my deadlifts and my chin ups during that session, then I had a group of seven kids I had to put through a conditioning drill with zurchers, Farmers walks, box jumps, plyo push-ups and dips ect. I always do the first couple rounds with them as well I don't make anybody do anything I wouldn't do so my workout was probably 2 hours long in total and a lot of it was running around doing condition and drills and setting up things and taking things down even in between my sets I'm setting people up for stuff My whole workout is cardio after my deadlifts basically
 
Smont said:
I'm doing similar things now, I'm looking into non steroid/gear options that can help improve my health and also improve the way that I look and perform trying to think more longevity. I just turned 40 like 2 weeks ago and I'm really just trying to go test, GH and leave a lot of the other stuff for very brief periods of time before I'm doing something important like some sort of strength competition or maybe I need to look my best for something. I also do a massive amount of cardio and I'm sure that helps with my health. I'm not out running miles everyday but I spend hours every week boxing and grappling and doing conditioning drills related to those 2 things.

Last night I put 2 ppl through a full body workout that was more focused on pull, I did my deadlifts and my chin ups during that session, then I had a group of seven kids I had to put through a conditioning drill with zurchers, Farmers walks, box jumps, plyo push-ups and dips ect. I always do the first couple rounds with them as well I don't make anybody do anything I wouldn't do so my workout was probably 2 hours long in total and a lot of it was running around doing condition and drills and setting up things and taking things down even in between my sets I'm setting people up for stuff My whole workout is cardio after my deadlifts basically
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All I'll run these days are test, primo and var. They are the kindest in terms of sides and how they affect my health and only run them on the lower end. I still see great results from 300 test, 300 primo 20-40 mg of var. Then I'll drop it back down to 150 test (trt).

I have been thinking about GH but I'm Def going to wait til I'm a little older. When I start really feeling my age and wear and tear on my body I may give it a go. I'm really kinda saving this for that extra boost when I start feeling my age. What are your thoughts on how the gh has treated you and how high do you run it?

Right now I feel amazing and my view is take less not more (of all exogenous compounds) and try to rely more on holistic health with diet, sleep, taking care of my mental health, exercise etc. Personally for me this is paying off but I think staying active overall is definitely the number 1 factor in staying youthful.
 
FallenGod1 said:
All I'll run these days are test, primo and var. They are the kindest in terms of sides and how they affect my health and only run them on the lower end. I still see great results from 300 test, 300 primo 20-40 mg of var. Then I'll drop it back down to 150 test (trt).

I have been thinking about GH but I'm Def going to wait til I'm a little older. When I start really feeling my age and wear and tear on my body I may give it a go. I'm really kinda saving this for that extra boost when I start feeling my age. What are your thoughts on how the gh has treated you and how high do you run it?

Right now I feel amazing and my view is take less not more (of all exogenous compounds) and try to rely more on holistic health with diet, sleep, taking care of my mental health, exercise etc. Personally for me this is paying off but I think staying active overall is definitely the number 1 factor in staying youthful.
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I like that approach very much, the addition of hgh should be significantly beneficial at this point in time as well. Regardless of anything I've ever said,My number one bit of gear advice that never changes is pick the compounds that give you the least side effects and the least negative health impacts. When you need more, Use more of the "safer" compounds instead of tiptoeing around the heavy hitters like tren and SD. We see more and more ppl using testosterone, a dht and GH for pretty much the bulk of everything they do. Given the doses are probably significantly higher than we are using but these guys still look amazing without boatloads of orals and tren
 
As to how GH is treated me I've only used it once before and it was for a very short period of time, but I have seen the first hand results and lots of other people The reason I want to get on it is because all the older guys I know they kind of describe it as all their little aches and pains kind of stopped progressing when they started the GH. So while it might not make me feel 20 again I'm okay feeling how I feel right now for the next 10 years lol. That sounds better than getting 10 more years of wear and tear. I can't be 18 forever but maybe I can be 40 for a really long time 😂
 
Smont said:
As to how GH is treated me I've only used it once before and it was for a very short period of time, but I have seen the first hand results and lots of other people The reason I want to get on it is because all the older guys I know they kind of describe it as all their little aches and pains kind of stopped progressing when they started the GH. So while it might not make me feel 20 again I'm okay feeling how I feel right now for the next 10 years lol. That sounds better than getting 10 more years of wear and tear. I can't be 18 forever but maybe I can be 40 for a really long time 😂
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Right exactly this.
 
Dang. I have ONE sealed zero flux dien e. Also one OL dermatr3st. I am not dying to get rid of them but if anyone shoots me a decent offer I’ll consider it. No trades just sell. Gonna just throw it at crypto anyways lol
 
Smont said:
@Hyde
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I’m all good, sitting on 2 old bottles of Dien E. Wish it was Ace because the insomnia was real at 400mg, but I’ll stick to 200 next time I add it in. Maybe this summer, but we’ll see.

Acne was pretty bad on it. Felt really very good on it, besides rough sleep. Incredibly horny, but was getting erectile dysfunction at the end. Should have probably added some caber and tadalafil with it, and I did have to use low dose Ralox with it even with low test (240/wk).

I suspect sticking to 200 Dien and having mast on board may eliminate the need for Ralox, caber & tada though. We’ll see where the summer goes.

Zero PIP. Feels very much like a low dose of Tren & NPP combined.
 
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