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Isn't Olympus Labs LJ100 dosed low, or do they use a super high quality extract?

I tried the Powder City 2% at 2 heaping 0.15cc scoops (~300mg x 2) per day - didn't get much. It seems if you get anything at all, you need to try 1.5-2g a day, as you and Hyde have relayed. I stopped it, but have some left - I may mega-dose the rest and see if I notice anything. Thanks for the report.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Is anyone here expecting these "test boosting" ingredients to provide muscle/strength benefits associated with supraphysiological levels of testosterone and actual test use? That's not going to happen. So if you can get the subjective benefits often associated with increased test (increased libido, improved mood and energy, etc) is it really that bad? Just something to think about.
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Then don't market it as mainly a test booster then. Sell it as a male sexual enhancement product/ingredient.
 
dynamo said:
Then don't market it as mainly a test booster then. Sell it as a male sexual enhancement product/ingredient.
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I agree with your stance; I find no fault with it nor could I offer a logical or reasonable dispute....but you realize most supplements are marketed terribly or with a heavy dose of snakeoil salesmen liberty? I.e. buy our X product and be amazed at the plethora of benefits almost too good to believe!! I mean is a preworkout powder going to make the difference in accomplishing your longterm goals over 15 years of hard training? Will "skin-splitting pumps" and "crazy endurance" make you into a champion? Will test levels going from 400 to 600 make a relevant physique difference? We know the answers here.

They're just....supplements. Not drugs.
 
Hyde said:
I agree with your stance; I find no fault with it nor could I offer a logical or reasonable dispute....but you realize most supplements are marketed terribly or with a heavy dose of snakeoil salesmen liberty? I.e. buy our X product and be amazed at the plethora of benefits almost too good to believe!! I mean is a preworkout powder going to make the difference in accomplishing your longterm goals over 15 years of hard training? Will "skin-splitting pumps" and "crazy endurance" make you into a champion? Will test levels going from 400 to 600 make a relevant physique difference? We know the answers here.

They're just....supplements. Not drugs.
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Of course. Thus I've pointed out what I had pointed out so that those whom wish to be better informed would be better informed. There's plenty whom will stick with the "well, it works for me" defense for which I'm not going to convince them otherwise.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I tried the Powder City 2% at 2 heaping 0.15cc scoops (~300mg x 2) per day - didn't get much. It seems if you get anything at all, you need to try 1.5-2g a day, as you and Hyde have relayed. I stopped it, but have some left - I may mega-dose the rest and see if I notice anything. Thanks for the report.
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Definitely mega dose it. In my experience, the Powder City 2% is stronger than the 100:1 from Bulk Supplements. I capped the Powder City 2% powder using size 0 caps and used got decent results from 5-6 caps daily max. At 6 caps daily, there were some days I was a bit too wired and energetic and it did slightly affect my sleep, but not by much. 4-5 caps was my sweet spot. Also I got really dry and lean on the Powder City 2%.

Dosage wise:

- LJ100 was good at 800mg daily but too expensive to mega dose
- Powder City 2% Eurycomanone seems to be decent at 1500mg-3000mg daily
- Bulk Supplements 100:1 appears to be effective at 2000mg-3000mg as a starting point and am currently at 4500mg daily
 
Tongkat Ali is one of few ingredients that will actually boost T levels even in healthy men.
I have personaly seen bloodwork (before and after supplementation with LJ100 and Tonvara TA).
The increase was from 10% to above 50% of T levels and older guys had highest increase.
Is it worth taking TA if it only increase T levels 10%? For gains, probably not.

I do agree most of T boosting ingredients should be advertised as libido/sexual enhancement compound. It will do nothing for T levels.
 
Update: I order Olympic Labs LJ100 just to try it. I've been running it at 200mg a day. It's only been one week. It has been helping my mood and my anxiety. It hasn't gotten rid of my anxiety, but feels like it has reduced it, say 70%. It also seems to be helping my arthritis and joint pain. I have no idea if I'm getting a test boost though. It also feels like it's affected blood pressure. It does make me feel tired and that it may actually be lowering my blood pressure. It makes me feel more relaxed, like a sedative.
 
Shiznown said:
Update: I order Olympic Labs LJ100 just to try it. I've been running it at 200mg a day. It's only been one week. It has been helping my mood and my anxiety. It hasn't gotten rid of my anxiety, but feels like it has reduced it, say 70%. It also seems to be helping my arthritis and joint pain. I have no idea if I'm getting a test boost though. It also feels like it's affected blood pressure. It does make me feel tired and that it may actually be lowering my blood pressure. It makes me feel more relaxed, like a sedative.
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I am glad its working that way for you and yes, TA can actually decrease blood pressure in some people :)
 
Danes said:
I am glad its working that way for you and yes, TA can actually decrease blood pressure in some people :)
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If I have to up the dose, I'll have to take 2 in the morning and 2 at night. Hopefully if it is raising test, I won't need to do that though, because of expense and slight side effects. It also makes my face feel slightly warm. I have to space the 2 pills out 2 or more hours apart, or my face gets hot.
 
Shiznown said:
If I have to up the dose, I'll have to take 2 in the morning and 2 at night. Hopefully if it is raising test, I won't need to do that though, because of expense and slight side effects. It also makes my face feel slightly warm. I have to space the 2 pills out 2 or more hours apart, or my face gets hot.
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Just face or?
 
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