Is this true?

Buc4Life04

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Is this true? Input Dr. D?

Is this true both better then just one??

Nolva is the dominating SERM in pct. Both nolva and clomid are SERMS but tissue specific or selective to certain areas. The case of clomid v nolva is clomid is a weak anti-estrogen blocker as opposed to nolvadex but clomid is needed to stimulate LH levels back to normal thus it's specific use. Nolvadex is selective in this aspect that it's main purpose as studies show is a weak estrogen and binds to receptors during PCT.

Nolvadex is needed for what I call the estrogen back lash one will recieve during the off time right after a cycle. When androgen levels drop estrogen flushs the receptors and nolvadex is needed. To not hinder gains or keep them longer, it is suggestable to restore the balance as quick as possible. Clomid is suggestable for this even though clomid is an anti-estrogen as well this is shown to be not it's selection.

To conclude, both SERMS are neccessary for proper restoration and serve both purposes needed in PCT. One, clomid to restore LH levels back to normal. Two, nolvadex to act as the anti-estrogen and block the flush.

Lastly, studies show that using a secondary product like nolvadex along clomid usage helps assist it by diverting clomids attention to LH stimulation only. If nolvadex is not used then clomid will be forced to take on both problems acting as an anti-estrogen and LH stimulator.
 
From what I have come two understand they even though both are SERMs they do act differently. This was taken from Bill Llwellyn's article:

"The tests showed that after ten days of treatment with Nolvadex, pituitary sensitivity to GnRH increased slightly compared to pre-treated values. This is contrast to 10 days of treatment with 150mg Clomid, which was shown to consistently DECREASE pituitary sensitivity to GnRH (more LH was released before treatment). As the study with Nolvadex progresses to 6 weeks, pituitary sensitivity to GnRH was significantly higher than pre-treated or 10-day levels. At this point the same 20mg dosage was also raising testosterone and LH levels to an average of 183% and 172% of base values, respectively, which again is measurably higher than what was noted 10 days into therapy. Within 10 days of treatment Clomid is already exerting an effect that is causing the pituitary to become slightly desensitized to GnRH, while prolonged use of Nolvadex serves only to increase pituitary sensitivity to this hormone."

I haven't personally used clomid yet. I will try it in the future though. All I can say is unless you are really shutdown or can prove somehow that both are absolutely better and SAFER than one or the other I would stick with one. Neither of these products are good for you and both have dangerous sides. Of course we have no choice but to use them but there isn't a need to over do it. If you get sides from clomid stick with nolva. I feel like **** on nolva so next time I am gonna give clomid a try.
 
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