Is this right cycle for mma fighter that what a to go up a weight class?

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Hi guys , wanted to share my idea for a cycle I’ve wrote down after some extensive research I did some time ago. Before when I planned just wanted endurance strength but now I’m looking to go up a weight class and thinking of adding Deca to it. Any input is welcomed into the cycle in general and what would you think about adding Deca to it. Thanks

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Sustanon week 1-12
2 x week 300mg

Anavar week 6-12 1morning/1 evening
50mg x day

Proviron week 2-13
50mg x day

Hcg week 4-8, 12-16
2 x 500iu per week

Igf long r week 15-18
80mcg per day

Cardarine 15-18
25mg per day aq
 

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If you are planning on fighting, I hope it is in a league that is open about steroid use. I can't stand steroid users in Amateur/Professional leagues that don't allow it/test for it.
 

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If you are planning on fighting, I hope it is in a league that is open about steroid use. I can't stand steroid users in Amateur/Professional leagues that don't allow it/test for it.
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First of all, why do you want to go up a weight class?

Anyhow, if you planning on getting to the big league I would stay away from all long esters like Deca, it can be detected for over a year. Stick to short esters and orals that’s in and out fast.
 

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First of all, why do you want to go up a weight class?

Anyhow, if you planning on getting to the big league I would stay away from all long esters like Deca, it can be detected for over a year. Stick to short esters and orals that’s in and out fast.
What would you recommend instead of Deca ? Anyway if there is no testing issues Deca would be good option yea ? I want to go up 10kgs of pure muscle. I’m in 78-80 with 14%bf . I’m gonna start cycle once I get to 10-11% bf.
 

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What would you recommend instead of Deca ? Anyway if there is no testing issues Deca would be good option yea ? I want to go up 10kgs of pure muscle. I’m in 78-80 with 14%bf . I’m gonna start cycle once I get to 10-11% bf.
If you like nandrolone then go with NPP instead of deca. It's the short ester version. Good for guys that have never tried deca before or guys that need it out of their system quickly
 

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If you like nandrolone then go with NPP instead of deca. It's the short ester version. Good for guys that have never tried deca before or guys that need it out of their system quickly
Will do my homework on it. I don’t have to have it out of my system so quick so Deca wouldn’t be a problem. About anavar is it ok instead is winny? I don’t want to use winny cause of the joint issues I’ve heard of. But also don’t like that anavar is oral and can mess up my liver.
 
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Will do my homework on it. I don’t have to have it out of my system so quick so Deca wouldn’t be a problem. About anavar is it ok instead is winny? I don’t want to use winny cause of the joint issues I’ve heard of. But also don’t like that anavar is oral and can mess up my liver.
Winny is a harsher compound than Anavar.
Anavar is one of my favorite Strength compounds.
 

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What would you recommend instead of Deca ? Anyway if there is no testing issues Deca would be good option yea ? I want to go up 10kgs of pure muscle. I’m in 78-80 with 14%bf . I’m gonna start cycle once I get to 10-11% bf.
10 kg of pure muscle is a fukton! I hope you don’t think you’re gonna get that from 1 cycle.
 
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If you are planning on fighting, I hope it is in a league that is open about steroid use. I can't stand steroid users in Amateur/Professional leagues that don't allow it/test for it.
Most mma leagues do not test for steroids, only recreational drugs.

And most the guys in the tested leagues are on gear too.

Full blown cycles and MMA/boxing do not mix. The pump makes it impossible to train


No igf 1, no anavar, keep testosterone dose under 300, add a oral like tbol if your dead set on a oral.

Gear selection doesn't make you bulk up, food does. You just need to pick the gear in low doses that allows for optimal training.

Bodybuilding=large amounts of gear

Sports=as little as possible. The more gear you run the bigger DISADVANTAGE you will be it.
 

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Most mma leagues do not test for steroids, only recreational drugs.

And most the guys in the tested leagues are on gear too.

Full blown cycles and MMA/boxing do not mix. The pump makes it impossible to train


No igf 1, no anavar, keep testosterone dose under 300, add a oral like tbol if your dead set on a oral.

Gear selection doesn't make you bulk up, food does. You just need to pick the gear in low doses that allows for optimal training.

Bodybuilding=large amounts of gear

Sports=as little as possible. The more gear you run the bigger DISADVANTAGE you will be it.
Interesting, was thinking of doing 500-600 Week of test actually. Turinabol instead of anavar? Really ? I want to bulk up but not gain so much fat in process. I have good endurance so don’t want to duck that up, cardarnine heard was like epo or better.?
 
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The amount of calories you eat will determine the weight you gain. The goal would be to pick compounds that are going to not make training hard I had fantastic endurance and then started my cycle in the beginning of the summer and within 2 to 3 weeks I couldn't even make it through three rounds of sparring because the pump was so bad you couldn't continue. The water and glycogen from certain compounds makes training extremely hard.

If you run that cycle you listed originally I guarantee within two to three weeks you're not going to be able to make it through sparring sessions
 
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I've also seen guys run 50mg winny or anavar 3-4 times a week pre workout alongside a lowe dose of test. Carderine will absolutely help with endurance but that's cardio endurance. The lactic acid build up and extreme pumps you get on a steroid cycle ace counterproductive to training. At the end of the day you just going to have to do whatever you want though but your original plan I would say is a bad one. Especially if you have a fight coming up
 

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What would you recommend instead of Deca ? Anyway if there is no testing issues Deca would be good option yea ? I want to go up 10kgs of pure muscle. I’m in 78-80 with 14%bf . I’m gonna start cycle once I get to 10-11% bf.
Deca will work but I still don’t know why you want to go up a weight class? It’s not going to be easier, actually it’ll be harder since now you’re fighting guys that’s naturally bigger and stronger, plus cardio will also be harder because you’re heavier.

How many fights do you have?
 

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I’ve been competing since 16yrs old, MT & MMA, I’m 35 and fighting is my life. I want to get bigger without losing so much speed. I think is possible with the right diet-training-cycle. If I get to walk on 90 drop to 85 for comp but bigger stronger im good.
 

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I've also seen guys run 50mg winny or anavar 3-4 times a week pre workout alongside a lowe dose of test. Carderine will absolutely help with endurance but that's cardio endurance. The lactic acid build up and extreme pumps you get on a steroid cycle ace counterproductive to training. At the end of the day you just going to have to do whatever you want though but your original plan I would say is a bad one. Especially if you have a fight coming up
This wouldnt be for fight prep of course. I know diet training is where is at but feel I’m ready to finally do a good cycle for being able to push harder. I’m thinking test, Deca, anavar will keep it simple.
Now I’m dosing I’m gonna see if 300 or maybe 500 per week and keep other dosages small.
 

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Finally will look something like this , what you guys think?
Sustanon week 1-12
300mg first week then 500 from 2nd
Deca week 3-12
300mg x week
Anavar week 7-12
30-50mg a day
This way I think I can add things as I asses how it goes first sustanon then deca then anavar.
I am prone to gyno even without cycle. Should I just take Clomid and nolva or some aromasin?
I get strong and big fast so in sure with this I’m gonna explode
 
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Clomid won't do anything for gyno. Raloxifene or Nolva will help protect from gyno. I would assume you to need an AI on that cycle, but the need is very individual. Only bloods will tell, when you're not really experienced and know how you react to the drugs being used and combinations of.

I assume you're going to cruise/TRT after the cycle? Otherwise Sust and Deca are not good choices.
 
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OP, youre ignoring pretty much all the cycle advice youve been given, then still asking for advice on your cycle.
 

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Clomid won't do anything for gyno. Raloxifene or Nolva will help protect from gyno. I would assume you to need an AI on that cycle, but the need is very individual. Only bloods will tell, when you're not really experienced and know how you react to the drugs being used and combinations of.

I assume you're going to cruise/TRT after the cycle? Otherwise Sust and Deca are not good choices.
not gonna cruise. Cycle and pct
 

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OP, youre ignoring pretty much all the cycle advice youve been given, then still asking for advice on your cycle.
Not ignoring at all 😂
If you see my initial cycle and this final one, they are pretty different.
 
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not gonna cruise. Cycle and pct
Well then keep in mind that Sustanon and Deca take several weeks to leave your system after the last injection and starting PCT before this happens is of no use. I can't remember how long on top of my head, but I want to say something like 5+ weeks for Sust and more for Deca. I'm sure someone here remembers or you can Google.
 

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