Is tamoxifen enough for pct? Need help

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I finished up my first ever PED cycle of 30mg ostarine cycle (5 weeks on) . Finished at the start of november and started my "pct" took 125mg of arimistane for about 3 weeks. and was informed that arimistane is garbage. So I ordered tamoxifen citrate RC and have been taking it for about 2 weeks now. So this is my actual pct suppose lol.
This is my first dive into PEDS. I'm quickly learning alot. I try to look up stuff and read on my own but because it's a funky situation I need advice asap.

I havent really felt much better with the tamoxifen. I'm still gaining fat like no tomorrow. My nuts are still smaller. Sex drive came back for about 3 days then disappeared again. I noticed my chest hair comes out easily. And what's weird is the hair on my upper legs that my briefs cover is really sore and sensitive. Also my stomach/belly hair or skin is really sensitive. I guess from my shirt rubbing against it. Drives me nuts. And I got 3 massive pimples that wont go away and I NEVER get pimples.
My nipples dont hurt anymore but everything else is still off. I feel like ****. I'm depressed and lacking drive. Probably because of seeing all my progress either away.
But I was wondering if tamoxifen is enough. How do I know if Its working?
Should I add clomid with it?
Do I need to throw in any AI in the mix?
What signs do I look for to know when to adjust dosage or add/remove to stay on track?

I'm worried about my shrunken nuts. I would think by now they would have gotten bigger again?

I'm just having all of these weird symptoms and I'm hoping you guys can explain to me what it means and how to go about fixing it. Is it still too much estrogen? Or is it just the sides from the RC nolvadex?
 
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Just dose it high enough, 40/40/30/20 and you'll be fine.
Try to hit legs a bit harder (they produce a lot of hormones beneficial in pct), and do more compound lifts and that's it.
 

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Just dose it high enough, 40/40/30/20 and you'll be fine.
Try to hit legs a bit harder (they produce a lot of hormones beneficial in pct), and do more compound lifts and that's it.
Oh wow I was only taking 20mg everyday. I thought people only used clomid at 40mgs. Or maybe I got it mixed up. Either ways screw it. Worth a shot! Lol Damn does that mean I should restart my pct AGAIN??? Like add another 4 weeks of pct starting now? Taking the additional 20mgs of the tamoxifen now lol

Also I threw in some cardarine for the last days. Not sure if that's smart or not. I'm just trying to keep the fat gain at bay. It's getting rediculous. I feel its helping me FEEL better. But I just hope it's not gonna mess with things as far as pct and hormones go.
 
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Oh wow I was only taking 20mg everyday. I thought people only used clomid at 40mgs. Or maybe I got it mixed up. Either ways screw it. Worth a shot! Lol Damn does that mean I should restart my pct AGAIN??? Like add another 4 weeks of pct starting now? Taking the additional 20mgs of the tamoxifen now lol

Also I threw in some cardarine for the last days. Not sure if that's smart or not. I'm just trying to keep the fat gain at bay. It's getting rediculous. I feel its helping me FEEL better. But I just hope it's not gonna mess with things as far as pct and hormones go.
Relax man. Don't worry yourself to death.

You don't have to restart your PCT. Cardarine is fine.
Just remember... This will take time. Give it time. It's normal to feel crappy during PCT.
 

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Relax man. Don't worry yourself to death.

You don't have to restart your PCT. Cardarine is fine.
Just remember... This will take time. Give it time. It's normal to feel crappy during PCT.
Thanks man I appreciate the reassurance lol. Just figured I'd see my nuts start growing again lol. This is all new to me so I'm not sure what's normal or what's bad. Like the whole acne thing and what not. But yeah I'll try the higher dose 40mg of tamoxifen like Alchemist11 suggested. Or do you think I should just ride it out longer with 20mg?
Although I just did 40mgs of it today 😂

All I want for Christmas is my nuts to grow back. Somebody let Santa know for me!
 

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Relax man. Don't worry yourself to death.

You don't have to restart your PCT. Cardarine is fine.
Just remember... This will take time. Give it time. It's normal to feel crappy during PCT.
Thanks man I appreciate the reassurance lol. Just figured I'd see my nuts start growing again lol. This is all new to me so I'm not sure what's normal or what's bad. Like the whole acne thing and what not. But yeah I'll try the higher dose 40mg of tamoxifen like Alchemist11 suggested. Or do you think I should just ride it out longer with 20mg?
Although I just did 40mgs of it today 😂

All I want for Christmas is my nuts to grow back. Somebody let Santa know for me!
 
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Thanks man I appreciate the reassurance lol. Just figured I'd see my nuts start growing again lol. This is all new to me so I'm not sure what's normal or what's bad. Like the whole acne thing and what not. But yeah I'll try the higher dose 40mg of tamoxifen like Alchemist11 suggested. Or do you think I should just ride it out longer with 20mg?
Although I just did 40mgs of it today 😂

All I want for Christmas is my nuts to grow back. Somebody let Santa know for me!
IMO I think 20mg would be fine. However, if you have any concerns about recovery (which I believe you do. :) ), then I'd go with what Alchemist suggested.
 

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IMO I think 20mg would be fine. However, if you have any concerns about recovery (which I believe you do. :) ), then I'd go with what Alchemist suggested.
I might do 40mg just for a couple of days. And then quickly taper back down to 20mg over the. Next week. Just to see if that makes any difference then I'll know for next time how my body responds. Then go from there.
 

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Sorry about your situation you went through but hopefully your all set now. As I advised you the tamoxifen should have been higher off the bat. It seems your very susceptible to hpta shutdown so if you plan to still use anabolics you might want to think about either full hardcore high dose pct regimens HCG included with both nolva and clomid or if your older maybe just going with trt.

If your past 35 and plan to stick with bodybuilding id just go ahead and pull the trt trigger.
 

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Sorry about your situation you went through but hopefully your all set now. As I advised you the tamoxifen should have been higher off the bat. It seems your very susceptible to hpta shutdown so if you plan to still use anabolics you might want to think about either full hardcore high dose pct regimens HCG included with both nolva and clomid or if your older maybe just going with trt.

If your past 35 and plan to stick with bodybuilding id just go ahead and pull the trt trigger.
 
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I'm curious about this. 20mg x4 weeks not good enough for PCT? Is 40/40//30/20 better? Or 6 weeks at 20mg?
 
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Why are we double dosing for weeks now?

[Ron Burgundy Voice] That really escalated quickly.
 
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OP your libido is going to be in the $hitter on that dose of Tamox. Deff don't do 40mg.

Your best bet is to go get bloodwork and see where your overall hormonal profile is and whether anything is out of wack. LH should rebound fast even on a small dose of a SERM following that short of an Ostarine run.
 
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I don't think there's any advantage is dosing higher than 20mg personally. It would be be better to add hcg pre-serm or during cycle, and/or add 10 days of aromasin at 25mg a day which was proven to raise test levels significantly.
 

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