Is ironmagresearch a sponsor still?

[macedog24]

Who is bsl?

You like iml halo which is a solid product
Iml msten was also a solid product that had good reviews . i apologize if you didnt think so. Obviosly i wasnt around back then. Iml no longer carries such products. i used it in place of superdrol a few times myself. It always did what it said. My gainz were very good ,strength was up , not like superdrol but close enough without the sides you normally get from superdrol.
as for bsl im not real sure who they are.
And imr is rc. Again i cant really respond for anything in the past . Im here now, if anyone has any questions or concerns or just needs help with either IML or imr, dont hesitate to pm me! I will do my best to make sure your pm is answered in a timely manner and do whatever i can to help you and whatever the situation might be. You have my word on that.

 

[brofessorx]

Black stone labs.

And like I said, the customer service seen here is pretty promising.

 

[MrManlet]

I second what brofessor says, as most companies if they give you bunk stuff will just shrug you off or ignore you

 

[nubioso]

Who is bsl?

Guessing he's referring to Blackstone Labs. Could be wrong though.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see he indeed confirmed that. =P

 

[WesleyInman]

I liked iml halo and would continue to purchase it if it were available in the U.K., but I found bsl halo to be garbage. Found iml msten to be very weak, and nothing like the bottle of ultradrol jake personally sent me to test for my opinion.

Because of this I have zero faith in imr and do not have enough to take a chance with my research and have not used or recommended them.

They may not even be connected the name could be coincidence. If it is, this thread is pretty promising in terms of risking hard earned $$$ to try them for my research needs.

IML Msten was decent, but Ultradrol is definitely superior. Even the Iron Forged Nutrition Msten (ultradrol) def trumped IML msten..

But with that being said, Iron Mag Labs Super DMZ 1, 2 and 3 were magical. And honestly all of the other PH's I tried were awesome. Their Deca PH was not my favorite. And I say this as a long time rep. I never lie or misconstrue a product just to attempt to sell it. The IML epiandro and Randro are two of my favorites. You do have to dose those compounds high in my experience to get a solid result, and that is the only downside to these DHEA derivatives. But they are safer and they are legal.

BSL is not relative to IML. The only connection they had is that BSL (PJ) was initially with IML. They split and went there own way and then bought out a bunch of the Super DMZ 2.0 from Iron Mag Labs thinking that the PH ban was coming. Once they sold out, BSL then made their own version of Super DMZ 2.0 with their label and their own manufacturer. IML is not a manufacturer. In fact a little known fact is that Hi-Tech manufactures some of the IML line for us.

So although IML has zero relationship to the BSL guys, we have nothing against PJ or Aaron. PJ is actually originally from where I live and he and I trained at the same gym for awhile.

Anyways with that being said and done, Iron Mag Labs has been in the Industry 15+ years. And they have always been considered a very excellent brand and company, in terms of qualities. IMR is the same way. I was a customer for 5+ years before I ever repped and now work for IML/IMR.

I have full faith in their products, and in fact I use their line daily. I use all of the IML lines for myself and my clients. And I am very picky and want the very best and expect the best quality.

So please take that for what it's worth.

Top sellers from IMR, are probably the MK, Mt2 and the Tada are huge favorites

 

[WesleyInman]

And I'll add that Wes and mace are doing their best to help me through my problem. I was doubtful about this company in general even though I've had plenty of good experiences with iron mag LABS (which is why I had faith in IMR) however was less than pleased when I received either a bad batch or something of the like. And Wes like I said I'd be happy to return the rest of this bottle filled with YOUR guys contents if it helps anything. I assure you I'm not trying to "scam" or get extra products, I just want to have faith in one RC company for all my RC needs, and as of now IMR has yet to fill that void for me. But hopefully this is just a batch mistake and you can easily fix it and restore my faith

No problem. Pm me please with your info and the shipping and batch#

No worries. It takes usually a day for us to hear back with a response and updated tracking.

Also I know you are not looking for freebies. Sadly we do see this from time to time, but in this case I have zero reason not to believe you.

Mace did a nice job handling this and I thank you for your patience MrManlet - FYI guys in general, if you ever have an issue or complaint and you cannot get ahold of Mace or I on this forum ( we are both on dozens of forums)

Message me personally at "[email protected]"

Hope this helps.

 

[macedog24]

Black stone labs.

And like I said, the customer service seen here is pretty promising.

We thank you for that..

 

[WesleyInman]

MrManlet just an FYI not sure if you got an email from IMR / ship central, or maybe macedog24 messaged you but you are all set with a replacement.

I don't have the tracking yet. If Mace didn't get it either, we will get it for you Monday.

But it's approved and ur set.

 

[MrManlet]

Thanks guys for all your help through this I appreciate it. Excellent customer service. I will repost when I receive be new batch and let you guys know how it is

 

[macedog24]

Thanks guys for all your help through this I appreciate it. Excellent customer service. I will repost when I receive be new batch and let you guys know how it is

Thank you , and again i apologize for all the trouble you have gone through. Please just keep us posted.

 

[doogans]

IML Msten was decent, but Ultradrol is definitely superior. Even the Iron Forged Nutrition Msten (ultradrol) def trumped IML msten..

But with that being said, Iron Mag Labs Super DMZ 1, 2 and 3 were magical. And honestly all of the other PH's I tried were awesome. Their Deca PH was not my favorite. And I say this as a long time rep. I never lie or misconstrue a product just to attempt to sell it. The IML epiandro and Randro are two of my favorites. You do have to dose those compounds high in my experience to get a solid result, and that is the only downside to these DHEA derivatives. But they are safer and they are legal.

BSL is not relative to IML. The only connection they had is that BSL (PJ) was initially with IML. They split and went there own way and then bought out a bunch of the Super DMZ 2.0 from Iron Mag Labs thinking that the PH ban was coming. Once they sold out, BSL then made their own version of Super DMZ 2.0 with their label and their own manufacturer. IML is not a manufacturer. In fact a little known fact is that Hi-Tech manufactures some of the IML line for us.

So although IML has zero relationship to the BSL guys, we have nothing against PJ or Aaron. PJ is actually originally from where I live and he and I trained at the same gym for awhile.

Anyways with that being said and done, Iron Mag Labs has been in the Industry 15+ years. And they have always been considered a very excellent brand and company, in terms of qualities. IMR is the same way. I was a customer for 5+ years before I ever repped and now work for IML/IMR.

I have full faith in their products, and in fact I use their line daily. I use all of the IML lines for myself and my clients. And I am very picky and want the very best and expect the best quality.

So please take that for what it's worth.

Top sellers from IMR, are probably the MK, Mt2 and the Tada are huge favorites

I've got a quick question for you regarding IMR tadalafil. A few years back I picked up a 60ml bottle of tadalifil from you guys but still have half of it left. The expiration is listed as sometime in 2016 and I'm curious if it should still be safe to use. I remember it seemed a bit inconsistent the last time I used it (last year).

 

[WesleyInman]

I've got a quick question for you regarding IMR tadalafil. A few years back I picked up a 60ml bottle of tadalifil from you guys but still have half of it left. The expiration is listed as sometime in 2016 and I'm curious if it should still be safe to use. I remember it seemed a bit inconsistent the last time I used it (last year).

We cannot advise anyone to "use" any of the products.

With that being said and done, when RC's are suspended in such a base they tend to degrade in time. So the worst case scenario would be that it might be a bit weaker.

I would certainly shake it super well and store any keep any open RC's refrgerated for best possible scenario.

Does this make sense and help?

 

[yates84]

Ironmag = weak sauce. Their research chems are either bunk or way underdosed. Anyone here remember their epitren back in the day? Had guys dosing them at 10 caps a day and getting no results lol I fell for their mk I believe it was and that was enough for me, didn't do a dam thing.

 

[WesleyInman]

Ironmag = weak sauce. Their research chems are either bunk or way underdosed. Anyone here remember their epitren back in the day? Had guys dosing them at 10 caps a day and getting no results lol I fell for their mk I believe it was and that was enough for me, didn't do a dam thing.

First and foremost I was a customer back then, and had nothing to do with the Company and their PH's were solid. I became a Rep after being impressed with the product line and using it with hundreds of clients. Some were better then others, but Epitren was A+++

The MK677 is one of their top products from IMR. I have seen probably well over 100+ clients of "mine" use this. I have used probably 6+ bottles. I have had labs, and I have seen labs in many many clients. Probably about a 90% re-order rate on this and it is lab tested.

This is probably their top producing and selling product.

So based on what you are saying here, I have no reason to believe you don't have bad intentions. You literally are attacking the top producing and top rated product. I

IMR like any company has their issues. I have seen a few complaints here and there for fact...

But you calling out their top product makes me question what your agenda here is.

The ONLY complaint I ever heard on the PH line was the price, it was higher then many other companies.

IML has been around for almost 20 years because it is super high quality.

Honestly I don't even know what to say to you.

Tell me what brand you find is good please...

 

[yates84]

First and foremost I was a customer back then, and had nothing to do with the Company and their PH's were solid. I became a Rep after being impressed with the product line and using it with hundreds of clients. Some were better then others, but Epitren was A+++

The MK677 is one of their top products from IMR. I have seen probably well over 100+ clients of "mine" use this. I have used probably 6+ bottles. I have had labs, and I have seen labs in many many clients. Probably about a 90% re-order rate on this and it is lab tested.

This is probably their top producing and selling product.

So based on what you are saying here, I have no reason to believe you don't have bad intentions. You literally are attacking the top producing and top rated product. I

IMR like any company has their issues. I have seen a few complaints here and there for fact...

But you calling out their top product makes me question what your agenda here is.

The ONLY complaint I ever heard on the PH line was the price, it was higher then many other companies.

IML has been around for almost 20 years because it is super high quality.

Honestly I don't even know what to say to you.

Tell me what brand you find is good please...

Use the search bar and look up iml epitren threads on this forum, I remember lots of them throughout the years. As for the research chems, that was my experience and I have stated it multiple times throughout the years. I have no reason to attack anyone lol why would I waste my time making up bs? My agenda? You've read one too many conspiracy theories. My brand? Not IML.

 

[WesleyInman]

Use the search bar and look up iml epitren threads on this forum, I remember lots of them throughout the years. As for the research chems, that was my experience and I have stated it multiple times throughout the years. I have no reason to attack anyone lol why would I waste my time making up bs? My agenda? You've read one too many conspiracy theories. My brand? Not IML.

Conspiracy theories? Who are you even talking to? Im twice your age and 10x your experience.

I mean honestly man, what experience do you have to compare to mine? I have thousands of clients in 20+ years. I have 100+ comps of my own in 4 sports in 20+ years.

I chose this brand, I was not chosen. I had a dozen brands ask me to rep with them. In fact I sell probably half a dozen brands that have been and are on this forum now as well that are solid.

I can't speak for EpiTren logs on this forum. What about Super DMZ 1, 2 and 3 logs? Were those bad? What about Halo Extreme? What about Cyanostane? What about Osta Rx? What about Super 1 Andro? What about epiandro, randro, nor andro? The IML msten was not as good as the Iron Forged version nor the Ultradrol but still solid. What about the other PHs?

What other complaints have you seen.

Did you know Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals is one of the manufacturers for IML? Did you?

Say something bad about them or their products....do it. Let's see the consistency in your inexperience.

 

[WesleyInman]

Case you didn't know..brands I sell and trust on my store besides IML

Hi Tech. GAT. Iron Forged Nutriton. Alpha Gainz. Iron Legion. Antaeus. Solgar. Black Lion Research. MA labs. MuscleGELZ. MHP. Himalaya. PuraDor. APS (hi tech). Innovative Labs. Raw Dynamix. IsoPure. Pepto Pro by DSM. ON Nutrition.

Tell me which one of those are bad as well in your "experience"

How many clients have you had run any of these brands and products?? How many times have you competed? How many clients have you trained? How long have you been in the industry?

 

[yates84]

Conspiracy theories? Who are you even talking to? Im twice your age and 10x your experience.

I mean honestly man, what experience do you have to compare to mine? I have thousands of clients in 20+ years. I have 100+ comps of my own in 4 sports in 20+ years.

I chose this brand, I was not chosen. I had a dozen brands ask me to rep with them. In fact I sell probably half a dozen brands that have been and are on this forum now as well that are solid.

I can't speak for EpiTren logs on this forum. What about Super DMZ 1, 2 and 3 logs? Were those bad? What about Halo Extreme? What about Cyanostane? What about Osta Rx? What about Super 1 Andro? What about epiandro, randro, nor andro? The IML msten was not as good as the Iron Forged version nor the Ultradrol but still solid. What about the other PHs?

What other complaints have you seen.

Did you know Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals is one of the manufacturers for IML? Did you?

Say something bad about them or their products....do it. Let's see the consistency in your inexperience.

lol why are you getting so butthurt over me stating my personal experience and opinion? FYI I really didn't read too much of your garbage rep shill, too much of that around here already

 

[WesleyInman]

lol why are you getting so butthurt over me stating my personal experience and opinion? FYI I really didn't read too much of your garbage rep shill, too much of that around here already

You are garbage my friend.

When you have a real name and not an anonymous name...competition history and legit feedback then we can talk. I'm here..real name, real photo. Real talk.

If you think your supposed "experience" speak for tens of thousands of orders, then even more you are part of the problem...

I have never questioned anyone regarding IMR on this forum except for you. I even had a customer complaint reshipped sight unseen to resolve on this forum, bc I believed him for fact. I don't believe a word you say. You are nothing but an anonymous troll.

 

[WesleyInman]

Does anyone even realize that IMR is not a sponsor here btw?

I do not mind discussing any and all issues here, but we are breaking forum rules as is.

I am not even attempting to argue with anyone on this issue. There are dozens of legit RC companies out there. If you have a preference go for it.

IMR is legit. I am a rep and do all that I can to make everyone 100% satisfied.

But don't come on here and trash a company I work for when I have worked my ass off to make sure everyone has legit products, and in the event an issue happens..I take care of it.

Bottom line.

 

[WesleyInman]

lol why are you getting so butthurt over me stating my personal experience and opinion? FYI I really didn't read too much of your garbage rep shill, too much of that around here already

BTW - I want to see an order # for this item. Post image of an empty bottle and or batch number if you have it. Post up a complaint to an IMR staff, feel free to copy and paste. Show me a complaint to an IMR rep. Show me labs. Show me documentation to what you are saying.

"IF" you have that and I confirm it is legit. Not only will I apologize. I will ship you double of what you ordered out of my pocket. I will also put my foot in my mouth...

If not. If you can't validate what you are saying I am going to put my foot up your ass on this forum for a long time.

I don't care if I am a rep or not. I am in no mood to deal with some kid, anonymously trying to smear a brand I chose to rep for. Everything I rep for, I personally stand by.

Post up what you have..I will be waiting.

 

[brofessorx]

The ONLY complaint I ever heard on the PH line was the price, it was higher then many other companies ..

Well that's not true cause I was just complaining about the quality of their msten compared to ultradrol.

A number of companies have sent me products of theirs to use, iml not being one of them. How did I jump the gun to trust trying their hd product?

I've been around a long time. Way back before heavy iron knew what he knew I would school him on ph's over on iml forum.
But I digress, he gave me an opportunity on this forum to try black stone labs trenadione product, and it was legit.
Just as good if not better than what BA sent me of trenadrol before it was released to test for my thoughts.

Now the connection from bsl to iml, I remember heavy iron from his repping iml before bsl came about.
Since the trenadione he pushed was legit, I figured I could trust the iml hdrol product.
And it was one of the best I've ever used. Well worth the $60.

Because of these previous experiences this was why before hdrol was banned, I purchased 2 bottles at full price of bsl halo extreme. It was complete junk.

But, after reading all about sdmz an how bsl and iml separated I decided to buy 2 bottles of msten. Figured it's a deal at 10mg per cap as ultradrol was only 4mg.
It wasn't.

I've repped for a number of companies, I've tested products for a number of companies. I've developed products for companies. And even ghost wrote ph profiles for companies.

I have no agenda and give every one a fair shot. I'm just a small man who likes to try ped's and exercise.

 

[WesleyInman]

Well that's not true cause I was just complaining about the quality of their msten compared to ultradrol.

A number of companies have sent me products of theirs to use, iml not being one of them. How did I jump the gun to trust trying their hd product?

I've been around a long time. Way back before heavy iron knew what he knew I would school him on ph's over on iml forum.
But I digress, he gave me an opportunity on this forum to try black stone labs trenadione product, and it was legit.
Just as good if not better than what BA sent me of trenadrol before it was released to test for my thoughts.

Now the connection from bsl to iml, I remember heavy iron from his repping iml before bsl came about.
Since the trenadione he pushed was legit, I figured I could trust the iml hdrol product.
And it was one of the best I've ever used. Well worth the $60.

Because of these previous experiences this was why before hdrol was banned, I purchased 2 bottles at full price of bsl halo extreme. It was complete junk.

But, after reading all about sdmz an how bsl and iml separated I decided to buy 2 bottles of msten. Figured it's a deal at 10mg per cap as ultradrol was only 4mg.
It wasn't.

I've repped for a number of companies, I've tested products for a number of companies. I've developed products for companies. And even ghost wrote ph profiles for companies.

I have no agenda and give every one a fair shot. I'm just a small man who likes to try ped's and exercise.

Hey man, yeah I didn't know it was a complaint rather then saying the Ultradrol worked better.

And I can agree to that. The ultradrol and the Iron Forged Msten was better then the IML pure msten in my experience as well. But the IML msten was still decent imo.

As for the BSL connection, only when SDMZ 2.0 came out, that was it. When BSL made those tren products and their halo for example, that was all of them. In fact I was the first person to log the BSL tren PH. It was decent..but yeah they were not connected to each other at that point.

Sorry for any confusion.

 

[yates84]

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