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dbaum2830 said:
No APO shipping on Forerunner Labs website = LAME!
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Let me hit up Royd for you. I know him and the rest with FRL are big supporters of the military. I'm sure this can be taken care of.

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dbaum2830 said:
No APO shipping on Forerunner Labs website = LAME!
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I will say this though. A polite inquiry often goes a lot further than negativity.

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Royd The Noyd said:
Thanks. We made it 6 caps a dose so people can play around with it as well. It also fits in the same size bottles as bulk and mass so we can do packaged deals that look real purty. :-)
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Would this be fine for a natty athlete as a substitute for erase pro? Or is it specifically designed for a PCT?
 
dbaum2830 said:
Didn't mean to hurt any feelings, just making an observasion. Thanks for the info Copy Cat and Royd
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I know brother. All good.

Where are you stationed?

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nickgz said:
Quick question. I'm mid way through Geared Up Nutritions Juiced. I've done this one other time, and used Purus Labs Recycle and Reversitol as PCT. I'm thinking about picking up the Reboot from forerunner. Is that all I'll need, or should I look into more?
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That's a halodrol clone, so depending on your dose you may or may not want to run it with a serm. Otherwise Reboot is fine, and is a good replacement for the two products you used in the past.
 
Hey Royd, I am not sure if I was able to send you a PM or not, but I tried so if you received it you can reply there.. but..

I am going to start an Alpha Mass/Bulk Cycle With Reboot .. I was told ErasePro would be a good enough SERM to use .. is this true or what would you suggest? This would be my first time on a PH cycle, how would you suggest taking these products for the best results without being tooo strong for me..
 
BMStricklin said:
Hey Royd, I am not sure if I was able to send you a PM or not, but I tried so if you received it you can reply there.. but..

I am going to start an Alpha Mass/Bulk Cycle With Reboot .. I was told ErasePro would be a good enough SERM to use .. is this true or what would you suggest? This would be my first time on a PH cycle, how would you suggest taking these products for the best results without being tooo strong for me..
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Hey brother, hope you do not mind me chiming in a little bit...

Just going to throw this out there, but I wouldn't just replace a SERM with ErasePro and walk away. Not at least without proper understanding and a solid plan.

How long of a cycle and at what dose were you considering? To SERM or not to SERM is going to be a hotly debated deal for a long time to come as it has been for a long time. In the end it will and should be your decision. It is really good to research and establish a good understanding of the compounds you are going to take, how they affect your body and how various PCT's can help. That being said for a shorter cycle like 4 weeks and not at a higher dosage like higher then the bottled recommendation it is most likely that you could use an OTC PCT. A higher dosage and longer cycle like 8 weeks you would likely want to consider a SERM. Please understand that SERMs also have their affects on the body and not all of them are truly positive. Not to say that they are inherently bad all things considered. For myself I have done 6 weeks without a SERM. I did, however, have one on hand. As I always do no matter what if I decide to try an OTC PCT. So far in my "cycling" history of prohormones I am prolly batting 50/50 on using a SERM or OTC PCT.

All that being said... ErasePro can be a solid addition to a PCT in a lot of ways. Let us know what the cycle and PCT you were thing of are like and we can continue to help ya out.
 
CopyCat said:
Hey brother, hope you do not mind me chiming in a little bit...

Just going to throw this out there, but I wouldn't just replace a SERM with ErasePro and walk away. Not at least without proper understanding and a solid plan.

How long of a cycle and at what dose were you considering? To SERM or not to SERM is going to be a hotly debated deal for a long time to come as it has been for a long time. In the end it will and should be your decision. It is really good to research and establish a good understanding of the compounds you are going to take, how they affect your body and how various PCT's can help. That being said for a shorter cycle like 4 weeks and not at a higher dosage like higher then the bottled recommendation it is most likely that you could use an OTC PCT. A higher dosage and longer cycle like 8 weeks you would likely want to consider a SERM. Please understand that SERMs also have their affects on the body and not all of them are truly positive. Not to say that they are inherently bad all things considered. For myself I have done 6 weeks without a SERM. I did, however, have one on hand. As I always do no matter what if I decide to try an OTC PCT. So far in my "cycling" history of prohormones I am prolly batting 50/50 on using a SERM or OTC PCT.

All that being said... ErasePro can be a solid addition to a PCT in a lot of ways. Let us know what the cycle and PCT you were thing of are like and we can continue to help ya out.
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I do not mind at all, all help is appreciated. I have tried to research this stuff as much as I can but I seem to get confused alot since I am new to this aspect of supplements. I could probably do short cycles if they are actually beneficial. I tried to look up Clomid and the only thing I can find online is generic forms of it.. is that a valid option or should I try go for the real deal?

As far as cycle I was considering doing the 11 week that Royd had posted early in this thread. Which I am assuming would require the SERM being post cycle? Again, sorry for the questions, I just get so confused with the terminology and stuff..

But I definitely wanna go AB/AM with Reboot and say 11 week cycle.. Would just adding a serm to this be what I would need?
 
Do me a favor and copy paste the cycle he laid out here so I can see. You sure it was 11 wks of the actual prohormones? Or was it like 11 wks including pct and all that? I say because 11 wks actually on is a long time and I would run it that long. But I suspect what he laid out includes pct in tht time frame though.

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BMStricklin said:
Yeah it is including the PCT..

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I would follow that layout right there just as is. I would not add erase pro on top of reboot. Reboot will already be controlling estrogen and adding the erase pro could be too much estrogen control. It is also on the cusp in regards to whether or not if you want to use a serm. Again I always have one on hand just in case. Reboot should be quite effective for PCT though.

As far as generic clomid or research chemicals I have always used research chemical SERMs from online.

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CopyCat said:
I would follow that layout right there just as is. I would not add erase pro on top of reboot. Reboot will already be controlling estrogen and adding the erase pro could be too much estrogen control. It is also on the cusp in regards to whether or not if you want to use a serm. Again I always have one on hand just in case. Reboot should be quite effective for PCT though.

As far as generic clomid or research chemicals I have always used research chemical SERMs from online.

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thanks again, you have been a big help.. one last question.. how would you know whether or not you should use a SERM.. like If I started that cycle, what would be the defining factor that would say.. man I should use a SERM on this post cycle? if that makes sense..
 
Here is a pretty decent link explaining Serms and their purpose and function. Give it a read through. I would say anyone who runs a cycle should have one on hand :just in case" even if the cycle is considered "mild" .

Serms have sides associated just like the PH will so I guess this is where you have to make a decision based on how your specific body type is responding to the cycle and more so the post cycle. I personaly used Torem, but to each their own.

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So, I guess what I wanted to know is that If I dont see my balls dropping or my "mammaries" seem to be adding fatty growth then I should supplement the SERM into my post.. is that right? Of course this being me on a short cycle where a SERM may or may not be needed...
 
considering serms weren't used in years past and people somehow survived shooting real gear and PH's and went on to be able to have productive lives and even procreate it really speaks to a serm could be viewed as just a preventative measure for many, but there are always exceptions to the rules.

I dont think I would run a cycle without a serm just for the mere purpose of precaution, but once again that is just me. I am well past 25 years old so I am not so concerned about my Endocrine system as someone should be who is under 25.

Yes if you suffer from testicular atrophy and or Gyno you should indeed implement the Serm without delay. Lets see what others recommend though.
 
BMStricklin said:
thanks again, you have been a big help.. one last question.. how would you know whether or not you should use a SERM.. like If I started that cycle, what would be the defining factor that would say.. man I should use a SERM on this post cycle? if that makes sense..
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Well, bloodwork would be the one true way to know. Otherwise yes if you are feeling really shut down and after some given time in pct things are not improving you may consider te serm. However, in an OTC pct recovery often times is a bit slower but come eventually none the less and you avoided the serm associated sides and concerns.

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Thanks again guys, you two have been VERY helpful. I just ordered both Bulk/Mass and will be running them against the cycle Royd had posted using reboot and a SERM (still undecided on which one Clomid or Nolva) for precaution as it is my first time. Last but not least, what kind of dosage goes with the SERM.. I see Clomid sells in 25mg/ML.. is that the dosage per day?
 
Looks great.. Thanks man!

Just to be clear .. in the Reboot + Clomid .. the 50mg "EOD" does that mean end of day or just a day?

And should I split both Bulk and Mass into 2 meals each.. like 3 bulk @ breakfast, 3 mass @ morning snack, etc..
 
BMStricklin said:
Looks great.. Thanks man!

Just to be clear .. in the Reboot + Clomid .. the 50mg "EOD" does that mean end of day or just a day?

And should I split both Bulk and Mass into 2 meals each.. like 3 bulk @ breakfast, 3 mass @ morning snack, etc..
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EOD = every other day

It's best to split bulk and mass into meals spread evenly apart if you can. It's best to take them with meals that contain 20-30 grams of fat. So if you only have one meal with 20-30 grams of fat, I suggest taking all of them in that one meal.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
EOD = every other day

It's best to split bulk and mass into meals spread evenly apart if you can. It's best to take them with meals that contain 20-30 grams of fat. So if you only have one meal with 20-30 grams of fat, I suggest taking all of them in that one meal.
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I will probably do all Bulk during breakfast and half of mass @ lunch and half of mass @ dinner since Those meals should all eclipse 20g's .. I read somewhere adding a low dose of mass at night is good for mental stability or something.. does that make sense of should I take all mass during lunch?

Also I have a few weeks left of APE by AEN(Test Booster), would taking this at the start of PCT help or be unnecessary?
 
BMStricklin said:
I will probably do all Bulk during breakfast and half of mass @ lunch and half of mass @ dinner since Those meals should all eclipse 20g's .. I read somewhere adding a low dose of mass at night is good for mental stability or something.. does that make sense of should I take all mass during lunch?

Also I have a few weeks left of APE by AEN(Test Booster), would taking this at the start of PCT help or be unnecessary?
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I think people like taking Mass later in the day because it can cause some lethargy...so taking it close to bed time makes it less of a problem.

Natural testosterone boosters are best used PCT. So no I don't see any problem using it in your PCT.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
I think people like taking Mass later in the day because it can cause some lethargy...so taking it close to bed time makes it less of a problem.

Natural testosterone boosters are best used PCT. So no I don't see any problem using it in your PCT.
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Awesome Bro.. Sounds Great.. I will be ordering my Reboot from your guys next week and get ahold of of some Clomid and I will be set.. I appreciate all the help!
 
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