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INJURY LOG: SLAP repair, prehab / surgery / rehabilitation training log

I had the same surgery 7 years ago. I'd do exactly what the doctor says. Probably to stay away from anything that involves the upper body. When PT starts a few weeks later, hit that religiously. I had a friend start back too soon & he got to have the same surgery again 6 months later because the anchors broke loose.
 
Hey Brian thanks for posting.

Here's a little recap of progress:

We started PT 3-4 days post op, doing very basic stuff (passive assisted range of motion). There was no strength training until 6-7 weeks post op for me, so basically once 2 months passed.

I'm currently 4 months post op and deep into the strength recovery portion of therapy.

I'm currently using 10 pounds on the cable machine for all rotator cuff exercises. D1/D2 movements, from high and low. We're doing 2 sets of 10 reps for each RC movement on the cable machine. We moved up to 10 pounds on the weekend.

10 pounds for 20 reps x 2 sets of bicep curls and triceps extensions.

8 pound db front raises. 40 pound cable rows.

Pushups on the stability ball (knees on ground, ball against the wall) - this is aiding all the surrounding muscles in the area. We aren't doing full pushups yet although I'm sure I could do them. Not pushing too far too fast, at least till all the tightness has gone. Still getting tightness around my infra/supraspinatus / lower trap/upper trap.
 
Things will be fairly static from here on out, and I'm pretty busy these days, so I won't be updating this often anymore.

I'll make sure to post anything important, or if anything changes.

I'm just over 4 months post op - just a note that even though things have been feeling much better, I'm not ready for any intense work yet. I was at the family cottage this past Sunday shoveling dirt (digging deep, through roots, etc) and I'm still paying for it now. My shoulder was extremely tight and sore that same day and for a few days after...and still feels fairly tight in some spots. It was a stupid move in retrospect. Those surrounding muscles are still getting up to speed, even though my rotator cuff feels fairly strong in PT.

My shoulder itself feels great though today... it's just the infra/supraspinatus, lower trap, and pec causing issues if I push too hard.. Thankfully it seems like the repair was a strong one!
 
You know, I actually haven't started them. I wasn't looking forward to pinning 3 times per day because of how busy I've been. I want to start soon though because I'd like to speed up the process now if possible. Tired of the tightness..I feel like I'm constantly heating & rolling out the tight areas/knots.
 
I actually ran out of TB500 again and will be starting the GHRP's now in it's place. I'm a fan of the TB500 though..seemed to be doing the job when I ran 5mg per week.
 
I've been hearing a lot about the GH bleed that 1295 creates and I haven't made up my mind if I'm willing to try that yet. The TB500 sounds killer though! I may need to try that for my joints!
 
I would say, if you do your research, the propensity for sides with TB500 may be higher. It is also a very new peptide. I've read enough conflicting reports that I'd thought I'd give it a run though...and it's not like we're talking super high doses as what's normally done in these clinical trials. The one thing though that I've read, is that it can cause an existing cancer to spread and grow. I've read other reports that it can slow cancer as well. It can't cause cancer though.

Also, the term GH bleed sounds worse than it is...I think it's a bad way to say that your baseline GH levels are just elevated constantly. The GHRP then is added for the pulses, with the elevated baseline greatly magnifying the pulse. It's not bad to have elevated baseline GH levels for a certain amount of time... you could run it indefinitely actually, with short breaks here and there. Of course there are a few sides that may come along with it (water retention thus BP issues, increased dopamine causing possible mania in some people, carpel tunnel like symptoms)... when these start happening, you can back off the CJC a bit if it becomes a problem.

I just ordered medium and heavy bands to do my own strength training at home. The medium band is the round red tube, and I think the heavy band is the dark blue tube. Comes with a door attachment to make it easy to mimic the cable machine. I also just ordered a compact firm rumble roller as well.. you can really work deep into your tissues with this thing. I'm going to take PT into my own hands now, and use the lacrosse balls/yoga balls/rumble roller and occasional ART treatment for any soft tissue issues.

My copay on PT is $40 per session, so it's not worth going anymore at this point. I can do all the strength movements on my own, and I can get superior body work done in a 30-40min A.R.T session for the same price.
 
I have had a slap and bankart repair surgery, and the second time a revision for both. Before both surgeries the tears were larger then 180deg. And as for my surgeon, physical therapist and regular doctor they all stated that besides rehab and walking the first 4wks post-op, you are not allowed any other exercise. I was not even able to do the stationary bike for quite some time. I would ask your surgeon for a specific timeline for lifting/exercise in general, as all surgeons have there preference to things.

My advice is dont take things to fast with the exercise....you'll regret it. And work your ass off in those therapy sessions and sometimes they will cut short the nnumber of sessions you need.

Same here, bankart repair on my right shoulder and slap tear/capsular shift on my left. I cannot really do decline at all-too much pain. My bench is limited to <200. But I'm managing all my other lifts just fine.
 
4.5 Month Post-Op Update

My bands just arrived today, time to work 100% from home. No more physical therapy for me. I have tons of information and docs to support myself now, but pretty much know offhand what I should be doing.

Can't wait for the tightness to go away. I'm told by most people that it will take the full 8 months or so for that to disappear and the surrounding muscles to fully release.
 
4.5 Month Post-Op Update

My bands just arrived today, time to work 100% from home. No more physical therapy for me. I have tons of information and docs to support myself now, but pretty much know offhand what I should be doing.

Can't wait for the tightness to go away. I'm told by most people that it will take the full 8 months or so for that to disappear and the surrounding muscles to fully release.

Good luck, keep up updated on our progress!
 
The last 2 days have been driving me crazy. I've been having some pain in my shoulder and I'm not sure why. The last time I worked out upper body was last Thursday... No pain on Friday... Went and floated the river Saturday and drank quite a bit, but the water was slow and easy... Noticed no pain that day or Sunday... Sunday evening I had a 2hr upper body massage that felt great... No pain Monday... No pain Tuesday... During Wednesday and today I have noticed more popping than normal and have had some pain at different points. When it pops it doesn't really hurt and if I keep doing the same movement that is causing it to pop it usually stops popping after a while like it has loosened up and maybe it was just stiff.

I'm just really confused b/c the way the last week played out it doesn't really make sense to me that I would be experiencing the pain and popping at this point in relation to my activities. Does anything about that make sense to you? I'm not dying in pain or anything, but that has never been the case. My original injury mostly only bothered me when I lifted weights so I don't know how to register what's going on at this point. Oh I also had my 5mo appointment last week and the doc said I seemed to be doing well and just wants one more visit next month. I didn't have any definitive moment where I hurt myself between then and now so idk wtf is going on. I'm hoping I just slept on it wrong. My neck/trap area has an achy/painful feel to it to so that could be the problem. I am just worried about the shoulder b/c I know it was already a problem before.
 
Hrm I'm not sure. I thought clicking / popping is scar tissue? I haven't had any clicks or pops in a loooong time myself. Probably been a couple months. I've been told that the muscles can be tweaky for a while though, and one day it will just feel right, could be anywhere from the 8-10 month mark.
 
Getting close to 5 Months now


I'm now doing daily cable work from home, pretty much following the "Throwers 10" program but adding in bicep cable curls, single arm OH triceps extension, standing cable rows from mid-height. Basically exercising the rotator cuff, chest, traps, lats and supporting areas daily. High reps (10-20) for 2-3 sets per exercise. Using the strong red cable. I have a thicker dark blue one that I picked up as well which I'm using for the rows and shrugs. The frequent exercising is making the shoulder less stiff, definitely bringing more bloodflow to the area. I don't really notice any aches anymore. Definitely feeling a bit of crunchiness when I rub my shoulder around a bit though. Likely a bit of scar tissue moving around/away.
 
Hey sorry, been insanely busy between work and my side project (I dj / promote in NYC on the side of my day job as a designer).

Well I've been keeping up my rehab from home with the cables, but last week I hit the gym to see what I could do upper-body wise.

I did my regular cable routine, then I tried benching just 135. Didn't attempt as my one side felt unstable when prepping the first press. Let my ego take a hit and then took off the 45's, replaced with 25's and pressed for 10 reps x2 sets. Felt easy and controlled, but wow my ego was way down on the floor for this.

After that I did some bent over rows, just with 25's on a barbell. Real lightweight. Easy. 10 reps X 2 sets. Ran for 15min after. Pretty simple workout.

For about 4-5 days post workout, my shoulder felt GREAT, but my left pec (surgery was on the left side), was FULL of knots and reeeeeal sore. I could roll my lacrosse ball over my whole pec and feel all the knots in it, was crazy!! I massaged and rolled with the lacrosse ball since then, and it's feeling better, but there's still one knot in there that's real bad and painful when I press. Made me super scared that I have gyno, but I don't.

I guess I shouldn't be benching so soon. If I had been real serious about my rehab the past two months, I could be benching by now (it's now 6 months post op), but I have to admit I've let it slide a lot. My pec was injured prior to the surgery (there was a ball of muscle at the top when the injury happened, which is evident of tearing), so I'm thinking this may take longer dealing with the pec issue.

Other people I've spoken to said to just give it time. It took a friend of mine up to 10 months till he was pressing good weight pain-free. One big piece of advice I was given, was to never attempt what I tried again. I should work from a known weight, and only work up in very SMALL increments weekly, with dumbbells/cables only for now.
 
Invalid Link Removed - when you are working upper body currently, what does your routine look like? Are you able to flat bench at all yet? What are your #'s looking like atm?

Curious how everything is progressing with you.
 
Invalid Link Removed - when you are working upper body currently, what does your routine look like? Are you able to flat bench at all yet? What are your #'s looking like atm?

Curious how everything is progressing with you.

Sh!t man I was doing really well until about 2wks ago. I started off on the bench press machine around 35 or 40 lbs. One of the low settings. I had recently worked my way up to 100lbs or so and was feeling great. Lifts were going up well in all categories and I was keeping it in the higher rep ranges around 10-12. Doing what my doc said pretty much. Idk wtf happened, but my shoulder area has been sore and painful off and on for the last 2 weeks. I had to quit my upperbody workout 2wks ago b/c curls were making my bicep hurt. I have had one workout since then that went pretty well with no real pain during it, but this past weekend it has been hurting more and I'm freaking out. I am being worked into the schedule tomorrow to see him so I can stop trying to figure it out myself.

I'm having pain in the front of my shoulder and bicep so idk man. I'm thinking it's just overworked one sec, then I'm thinking it's retorn, R.C., bicep tear, sh!t I'm making myself sick lol. My routine was pretty big as far as reps and sets go, but I always felt good until recently. I'll update you when I find something out tomorrow. My advice is take it easier than you think you should lol. Cross your fingers for me haha.

Oh and I'm a constant worrier about this stuff so I could be blowing it out of proportion. Every week since I started working out again I've been pretty sore and always tell my wife "oh it's hurting I must have screwed it up again", but it always seemed ok a few days later. Who knows man. Sorry for the long winded response.
 
During this whole process, there will be times where it will feel like we take 1 step forward and two steps back.

Did you by chance have a bicep tenodesis done when you had your SLAP repair? If not, was the bicep tendon damaged at all during your early MRI's? It could just be a bit of tendonitis. Even if you didn't have a tenodesis, the bicep tendon is attached to the labrum at the front of the shoulder, which was just repaired. It's common post surgery to develop some tendonitis, just have to be careful.

My advice is to check with your orthopedic surgeon and see if you're developing tendonitis, and check on the health of the bicep tendon.
 
During this whole process, there will be times where it will feel like we take 1 step forward and two steps back.

Did you by chance have a bicep tenodesis done when you had your SLAP repair? If not, was the bicep tendon damaged at all during your early MRI's? It could just be a bit of tendonitis. Even if you didn't have a tenodesis, the bicep tendon is attached to the labrum at the front of the shoulder, which was just repaired. It's common post surgery to develop some tendonitis, just have to be careful.

My advice is to check with your orthopedic surgeon and see if you're developing tendonitis, and check on the health of the bicep tendon.
Agreed, could be tendonitis. My shoulders hurt like crazy when I started working out after both surgeries. I don't really think you have a torn bicep, you could see the skin raised around where the bicep is. Plus it would hurt/burn like a MF. Keep us updated as to what your Ortho says.
 
Agreed, could be tendonitis. My shoulders hurt like crazy when I started working out after both surgeries. I don't really think you have a torn bicep, you could see the skin raised around where the bicep is. Plus it would hurt/burn like a MF. Keep us updated as to what your Ortho says.
A torn bicep muscle will cause the balled up muscle, but a slightly torn or damaged bicep tendon won't show on the outside. My bicep tendon was torn by 50% when I had my surgery done - but I had no idea till they got inside. The crazy thing was, the MRI didn't even pick that up. They discovered it when they went to fix my SLAP tear.
 
A torn bicep muscle will cause the balled up muscle, but a slightly torn or damaged bicep tendon won't show on the outside. My bicep tendon was torn by 50% when I had my surgery done - but I had no idea till they got inside. The crazy thing was, the MRI didn't even pick that up. They discovered it when they went to fix my SLAP tear.
Wow, you'd think that an MRI would show it
 
Ya my MRI didn't show that I had a slap tear at all, but it sure was there when they got inside and looked around.

Just got back and the doc thinks it's just really inflamed and swollen in the area and that is causing some nerve aggravation etc. I was given Prednisone for 5 days and he wants to see me in 2wks. He even said I can still work out, but just take it easy (that's the hard part).
 
I hear ya. I totally shouldn't have gone on the flat bench when I first got back to working upper body. I need to stick to hammer strength equipment, dumbbells and cables for now. I'm starting to think about kettle bells now too.
 
I like the feel of the machines since my stability is what scares me. I did do a light set of barbell bench once and felt it was too much for me to handle and re-racked it. I can't wait until I can do a real deadlift with some significant weight without being scared my shoulder is going to fall off holding all of that weight. I'll just have to wait on those.
 
I was scared as hell too when I got back in the gym. I mostly do my bench and incline on a smith machine just incase something happens, I can re-rack quickly. But I did get 200 up on flat bench last week, unassisted. That really pumped me up.
 
I was scared as hell too when I got back in the gym. I mostly do my bench and incline on a smith machine just incase something happens, I can re-rack quickly. But I did get 200 up on flat bench last week, unassisted. That really pumped me up.


How many months post-op are you?

I've just re-added push-ups on a large stability ball which should hopefully help. I place it against the wall so that it doesn't move forward, but it's still pretty tough to remain stable on it. My PT recommended this one to me.
 
How many months post-op are you?

I've just re-added push-ups on a large stability ball which should hopefully help. I place it against the wall so that it doesn't move forward, but it's still pretty tough to remain stable on it. My PT recommended this one to me.
I'm years post-op but it took me a while to get the courage to get back in the gym
Right shoulder in 2005, left shoulder in 2009
 
My deadlift was almost 500 pounds when this happened. I hope I can get back to that early next year. Pretty sure I will scrap 5/3/1 for a while and focus on the Starting Strength program for a couple months, once I'm feeling better. Quickest way to shoot up in strength. Definitely won't be doing the program this year though.

I'm extremely troubled/bothered by my chest strength on the bad side right now though. I love benching, but this lift trailed behind the others and I've always had trouble with chest when it came to growth as well. It's going to be a challenge.
 
My deadlift was almost 500 pounds when this happened. I hope I can get back to that early next year. Pretty sure I will scrap 5/3/1 for a while and focus on the Starting Strength program for a couple months, once I'm feeling better. Quickest way to shoot up in strength. Definitely won't be doing the program this year though.

I'm extremely troubled/bothered by my chest strength on the bad side right now though. I love benching, but this lift trailed behind the others and I've always had trouble with chest when it came to growth as well. It's going to be a challenge.
Same with me, I've never been any good at bench but I'm slowly increasing. The smith machine seems to be helping me out alot
 
How is your form on bench? Are you tucking your elbows towards your sides, or flaring them out towards the bar? If you tuck them in closer to your body, you will use more lat strength and boost your bench. Also, practice driving through your feet, with a strong arch in your back.

I wanna smack people when I see them place their feet on the bench. Not only is this idiotic and extremely bad form, but it removes your stability and any power that you gain from grounding yourself. I have no idea why people do this, except they may have seen other noobs do it.

The hardest part of the bench for me, was to keep my shoulders back and pinched throughout the movement. My delts almost always came into play at the top. Increasing upper back strength will solve this, as well as shoulder mobility work. I also found it easier to bench more, with a wider grip, since I'm so tall...but this can be harder on your shoulders.
 
How is your form on bench? Are you tucking your elbows towards your sides, or flaring them out towards the bar? If you tuck them in closer to your body, you will use more lat strength and boost your bench. Also, practice driving through your feet, with a strong arch in your back.

I wanna smack people when I see them place their feet on the bench. Not only is this idiotic and extremely bad form, but it removes your stability and any power that you gain from grounding yourself. I have no idea why people do this, except they may have seen other noobs do it.

The hardest part of the bench for me, was to keep my shoulders back and pinched throughout the movement. My delts almost always came into play at the top. Increasing upper back strength will solve this, as well as shoulder mobility work. I also found it easier to bench more, with a wider grip, since I'm so tall...but this can be harder on your shoulders.
I try and keep my elbows tucked. I keep my feet on the floor and like you I can't stand to see a person with their feet on the bench.
 
Ah cool, so you know what you're doing. I typically used to follow 5/3/1 w/periodization bible assistance, and had good results strength and size wise this way, even with bench/chest - but I definitely am weakest at the top of my bench. I need to start doing floor presses when I'm back in the game.
 
Hey guys, I need some help in here.

The largest problem I've encountered is loss of drive/motivation from being handicapped in the gym for so long. I haven't been doing my PT or training for almost a month now.

This is the first time I've ever run into a motivational issue this bad in the gym, it's really upsetting. I've thought about a small cycle to boost up my spirits and drive, to get back into the swing of things faster, but that isn't smart at all - too dangerous right now.

I could use any tips at all here folks!! A good portion of my life was dedicated to training and revolved around it... but that's since changed since the surgery and I'm finding it tough to get back into the groove again!
 
Cary K, houstontexas, either of you two have any encouraging words/tips?

I think it's mainly out of fear. The last time I trained, I felt real bad after on the operated side. My whole pec seized up...but the only issue was in the pec, not my shoulder or bicep at all!! So frustrating. I really want to train again...

I guess I really just have to put in a 200% effort to motivate myself through this phase now. Maybe I will start a new training log /diet etc to force myself.
 
Dude I'm in the same boat as you. I get really motivated to hit the gym and then after one great workout I'm sore on my operating side for a week. I could take it super easy I guess, but then what's the point of going. I only have a few available days to train and I don't want to BS or I may as well be at home with my family.

On top of the shoulder strength, stability, etc I've been having knee pain for like 3wks now. I haven't been back to the doc b/c I'm super busy with life and hoping it will go away. Needless to say I haven't trained legs since and it's my favorite workout.

I am having a hard time staying motivated as well. I'm keeping my diet on point for the most part, but my training is just so lacking and it makes me sad for real. Friggin bodybuilding depression lol. I keep having to put off my cycle I wanna run b/c I don't want to push it too early. It's really a huge deal to me as well and sometimes I wonder if I even did the right thing by going to have surgery. Hopefully when I'm a year, 2yrs, or farther out I will feel it was a great choice. The slowness of the recovery though is killing me.

I guess the main thing that keeps me somewhat motivated is the mirror. I don't want to turn into a fatty again so I try to keep my diet in check and get in the gym when I'm feeling good. I'm pretty sure my depressing post isn't going to help, but hey you called on me. Hang in there man I think it will get better for us as time goes on. I have to hope it does or I will go crazy haha.

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My diet is waaaaay out of whack now, but I'm keeping protein up - just not high enough I don't think. It can be a lot cleaner. Too many bars/shakes atm.

I'm trying to figure out a good way for me to get cardio in without running...do you think it's fine to do barbell complexes with 10 pounds added per side? I'd much rather do cardio this way. I think I'll give it a shot tomorrow night. 10/10/10 deadlifts/OH press/squat or something like that, for multiple rounds, very short break between rounds.

I definitely know it will get better, as long as we keep it consistent and keep pushing forward. I should be doing some PT daily from home to be honest. It's just tough to stay motivated when doing such little weight and seemingly simple things. I also wish I could work on physique now too, and that's a big downer atm, but at least I could be getting lean while working on strengthening.

I hope that knee turns out to be nothing. A girl I know who had a SLAP repair done ended up with leg issues from squatting too often while going through the same phase as us...so maybe it's that?
 
Ya I was incorporating huge leg days since my upper body days were less than stellar. Sometimes I broke it down into 2x a week as well. For a while there I was doing cardio a few times a week as well, but once the pain started catching up I stopped it all.

I'm just going to keep working with my diet and go get some massage soon. I may make an appointment with an ART or MAT clinic to check on muscle imbalances and get some release work done. I've never been to either before, but I've heard good things.

I really should have been doing PT work all along as well, but I've been BS'ing on that for months. It just seems so useless and stupid when I'm doing it b/c it's easy. I know I should do it, but I just don't.
 
I have one good update though...the huge deep knots that I've been having problems with have all seemed to disappear. I do have occasional stiffness now though from the way I sleep. Maybe the knots are gone because I've stopped my PT/training though lol, we'll see. Starting back up today.
 
What's up fellas, I am new here but post a lot on other forums, couldn't help but read this, I to have been injured this year ruptured left bicep tendon, had left shoulder impingement, had all this done Feb1st of this year. Then If that's not enough I broke my left foot recently:(

So I understand completely, I am so weak on the left side it hurts constantly, and I wonder if I will Ever be the same... It's hard to get down there when all I do is "go through the motions" but we have to keep pushing and grinding trough this and it will get better.



My instinct was to win, eliminate anyone who is in competion. Destroy my enemy, and move on without any kind of hesataion at all.
~Arnold~
 
How is your recovery coming along? Read through you log and it was very interesting. Just hoping you can shed some light on what things you could have or would change to help with faster recovery. I have surgery on December 27. The doctor says no Supplements will help and will not give me one of those shoulder things to ice so I will buy my own and ice the heck out of it. I do believe supplements will help, at least for the psycological aspect if not the physical aspect. Thanks for the help. I am in the same boat you are, I just want to be able to lift heavy again..lol
 
Just found this log. Only read through the first page, but I'm stoked to follow along. I have been contimplating shoulder surgery for years. I tore my infraspinatus (2 tears in the muscle - no tearing of bone) between my jr/sr yr of high school, no surgery required, but due to inflmation all around and a pre-existing condition (my AC didn't fuse right and I have a hook that hangs over the joint that causes constant rubbing/irritation) I developed impingement syndrome creating more problems. I had more tearing and bone spurs being created. I played baseball through college and would have good and bad days. Had an MRI and decided against surgery b/c I couldn't stand to sit out. Thorugh the years my shoulder has gotten worse. I've developed a partial SLAP tear, developed severe arthritis (dr.'s words), have a cyst growing in there, fraying of the biceps tendon, more bone spurs, and a large edema on both the ball and socket portion of the joint (including the infraspinatus tears getting larger). I've since had 2 more MRI's each worse in diagnosis. Last one I had the Dr. wanted to schedule surgery, I said no. The Doc said, and i quote, "You'll be back in here in a year BEGGING me to fix it." I've never been back. I know i"ll need it, but I'm terrified to even think of being laid up.

Looking forward to following your recovery and wishing you GOOD LUCK!
 
How is your recovery coming along? Read through you log and it was very interesting. Just hoping you can shed some light on what things you could have or would change to help with faster recovery. I have surgery on December 27. The doctor says no Supplements will help and will not give me one of those shoulder things to ice so I will buy my own and ice the heck out of it. I do believe supplements will help, at least for the psycological aspect if not the physical aspect. Thanks for the help. I am in the same boat you are, I just want to be able to lift heavy again..lol

Whatever it was I did, I did right, because I blasted through the first few months of PT!

After only a few months, I was back to normal usage of that arm and almost full ROM. By normal usage, I mean day to day things, lifting groceries, that kinda stuff...not hardcore upper body workouts. My orthopedic surgeon was amazed at my ROM and strength at such an early stage in PT. My physical therapist was also amazed at how fast my strength was returning. He hadn't seen that before. I think I was one of his favorite clients. And to be honest, I wasn't ultra diligent with my PT. I didn't do it often enough!!! Not as often as I could have. I will attribute my initial speedy progress to the TB-500 and supplements I chose to use.

The TB-500 was great. The supplements I took also made a big difference, I feel. But I totally felt the difference when I ran out of the TB-500 at one point. I had to get more again real quick. Where I went wrong though, was hitting the gym too hard when I was feeling great in PT. It made me scared to go back. I felt GREAT in the gym and started benching on my first day back doing upper body (I kept up my lower body training for a while even when my arm was in a sling).. so ya, benching after doing a TON of volume doing rotator cuff and chest movements on the fly machine. I was stupid.

I've been taking a break the past 2 months from the gym, ever since the above incident. I mean, I was scared for a few weeks afterwards, but then I just got really busy with work and also DJing which I do on the side here in NY. Also been real sick lately, just getting better. But I feel that I am now ready to begin training once more and will create a new program for myself and post in here to continue the log.

Sorry for being away for so long guys, but it's because I wasn't training!
 
I hear ya GP. Every time I get back in the gym a few days within a week and then a delayed pain/soreness comes on and I'm scared to death I hurt myself again. I really don't feel like I'm pushing it that hard, but coming from surgery and working back is a lot more demanding than it seems I guess. I've been out a few weeks and will be working my way back in soon. Been eating like a fatty since right before Thanksgiving. I mean a real fatty!! Like I've put on 20lbs in a few weeks. Being out of the gym is hard on my motivation for sure. I can't keep the focus that I usually have. Well I could, but I kind of don't even feel like it at the moment. Sad, but true. Planning on getting back in it soon though and busting out a nice cut/recomp.
 
I hear ya. I cut back and cleaned up my diet recently since I was putting on the pounds in the past. I don't eat carbs at night, and still try to keep protein high. I'm on TRT, and that combined with a decent diet has kept atrophy at bay a little. I am not defined, but I still have a good aframe and decent size. I plan on starting a good recomp as well very soon....combining 5/3/1 and Crossfit to get strong and lean again.
 
I will attribute my initial speedy progress to the TB-500 and supplements I chose to use.The TB-500 was great. The supplements I took also made a big difference, I feel. But I totally felt the difference when I ran out of the TB-500 at one point. I had to get more again real quick. Where I went wrong though, was hitting the gym too hard when I was feeling great in PT. It made me scared to go back. I felt GREAT in the gym and started benching on my first day back doing upper body (I kept up my lower body training for a while even when my arm was in a sling).. so ya, benching after doing a TON of volume doing rotator cuff and chest movements on the fly machine. I was stupid.
This stuff seems pretty expensive? I have looked and read some things on it. Not enough but I will read through more articles. Couple questions.1. How much do you spend on it?2. Are you still on it?3. How/Where do you inject it?Seems like I can get 2mg for about $22. I read how to mix it properly but not where to inject it? Unless I am reading it wrong? More research to come but if you could shed some light on me with answering those questions I may be less confused! Thanks man!
 
This stuff seems pretty expensive? I have looked and read some things on it. Not enough but I will read through more articles. Couple questions.1. How much do you spend on it?2. Are you still on it?3. How/Where do you inject it?Seems like I can get 2mg for about $22. I read how to mix it properly but not where to inject it? Unless I am reading it wrong? More research to come but if you could shed some light on me with answering those questions I may be less confused! Thanks man!

2mg for $22 is about right. 5mg weekly seems to help more, but I hear it's only necessary to use that much for loading phase. I'm not taking it currently. You can shoot into delt w/slin pin once a week, all in one shot, mixed with 0.5-1 cc bac water. Sub-Q or IM. Hope that helps!
 
got a good, respectable place to purchase that at? I would PM you but it says that you are full of messages.
 
Hi all...just wanted to update that everything is great. I'm doing all my regular lifts again but am keeping upright rows and dips out of the game forever.
Deadlifts, bench, cleans, snatchs, OH press...everything is feeling great, and I'm strong again haha! Just wanted to give people a heads up that these surgeries can be very successful. I was worried that it would forever effect my training, but things are truly feeling great.
 
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