Injectable Glutathione

[Dietz1873]

Has anyone here used subq glutathione? I’m interested in using it during PCT, it’s looking like super NAC on paper but I’m interested in the real world results obviously and has anyone used it for any purpose at all? Dose?

Thanks guys!

 

[Dietz1873]

Couldn’t find any real comparisons but I finally found one short video, I’m not sure how credible it is but if anyone else is interested in this topic, here is the link.

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[stancratcha5]

I’ve tried it. I had a good experience for the most part. It does burn like a bitch though, the pip is no joke. Got mine from Amino Asylum.

 

[Dietz1873]

I’ve tried it. I had a good experience for the most part. It does burn like a bitch though, the pip is no joke. Got mine from Amino Asylum.

That’s interesting. Thank you for the info, I’ve had 200mg primo PIP in my delts before, It definitely hindered my training and was bad enough to probably go without it so it’s solid info. That or I can stop being an idiot and only ever pinning my delts. May I ask what dose you were using? I just picked up a 600mg vial, but I’m guessing this is really only 3 weeks worth or so, considering dividing the 600mg up dosing twice a week over the course of a 4 week PCT which would put me at 150mg a week.

 

[Dietz1873]

I'm actually a lung specialist by trade, and the jury is pretty much in for this on respiratory. It does nothing for the lungs. In fact if nebulized it's irritating and probably harmful. That doesn't mean it's not commonly used for respiratory patients, it means many doctors aren't educated on it well enough. And also with the poor covid recovery rates we've been throwing everything we can at them. But it's slowly being used less and less.

Now NAC for a Tylenol overdose is a completely different discussion.

Are you a pulmonologist? My father is a vascular surgeon but obviously doesn’t consider compounds like this as a hematologist or someone treating non surgically would do. The only thing I can say to allow myself to remain respected in this conversation is that we can both agree that covid is a moving animal and it is manifesting itself in different ways in different people and it’s mutating at a very, very fast rate. I love NAC, it produces vitamin C literally as a byproduct so I am in agreeing with you, but I propose that it could be a useful treatment. I think you and I can both agree that some people that get COVID, are going to die regardless. I don’t want to dismiss NAC just yet though because god willing, a variant that pops up in 6 months will be treated with NAC, who knows. When I heard the form of administration, that’s what concerned me. Are there any trials or research you are aware of with high dose oral administration?

Many docs are uneducated, you are absolutely right.

Agreed. NAC as a liver regeneration aid is amazing on paper and in the real world. Isn’t it commonly given IV in jaundice alcoholics and such acutely?

 

[Ricky10]

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[Dietz1873]

The thing is antioxidant research hasn't panned out like everyone hoped it would 10-20 years ago. In fact the research shows antioxidants cause more deaths. In the case of an acute tylenol overdose your liver runs out of glutathione completely, and that's where replenishing it with NAC has been shown to be helpful.

In the case of jaundiced alcoholics there just isn't much we can do but hope they recover. I've done CPR on a few of them and watched them die. They're either waiting for a transplant or were denied one. They don't get IV NAC. And lactulose is kind of the one thing that helps them but they hate taking it because it causes diarrhea. Also a portal vein shunt operation helps, but those have complications. But nobody is going to say "if they just took this preventative supplement they'd still have a liver." I work with the pulmonologists but am not one... more of a pulmonologist assistant.

That’s interesting. May I ask why NAC is not used like it is in Europe and Asia?

I don’t trust the modern healthcare system and when I look at treatments working in other countries with less budgets and sanitation that have better outcomes and less drug dependency, I have a problem with modern science saying we hope for the best with an organ that is a beast at regeneration in comparison to just about anything. It’s a horrible thing.

I want more research done on NAC, you’ve said yourself the liver runs out/stops producing glutathione, I can see this leading to even further complications and compromised immune systems due to the vitamin C. If NAC is a byproduct of glutathione, if NAC is treating homeless people coming into ER’s jaundice, why is it not used here it studied more in the west?

Not really, my father is a surgeon so actually I know better than that. A hepatic portal vein shunt is a much more expensive procedure than NAC.

I agree with nobody wanting to say they’d still have a liver if they used preventatives. I’ve been through enough cancer to know that the last thing people want to hear about is quitting smoking or something.

My father is a physician but he’s a surgeon, not the best bedside manner. He tells it straight and I tell him what I do. He tells me to take NAC all the time, I research and he’s damn right.

 

[Tunaking14]

Are you a pulmonologist? My father is a vascular surgeon but obviously doesn’t consider compounds like this as a hematologist or someone treating non surgically would do. The only thing I can say to allow myself to remain respected in this conversation is that we can both agree that covid is a moving animal and it is manifesting itself in different ways in different people and it’s mutating at a very, very fast rate. I love NAC, it produces vitamin C literally as a byproduct so I am in agreeing with you, but I propose that it could be a useful treatment. I think you and I can both agree that some people that get COVID, are going to die regardless. I don’t want to dismiss NAC just yet though because god willing, a variant that pops up in 6 months will be treated with NAC, who knows. When I heard the form of administration, that’s what concerned me. Are there any trials or research you are aware of with high dose oral administration?

Many docs are uneducated, you are absolutely right.

Agreed. NAC as a liver regeneration aid is amazing on paper and in the real world. Isn’t it commonly given IV in jaundice alcoholics and such acutely?

Beware of thanosnap. This guy is still arguing that Ivermectin and hydroxychloriquine is dangerous because his gov't over lords told him so. (FDA, CDC). I mean he just said "antioxidants cause more deaths"!!! The guy only sides with whatever the CDC and FDA tells him to. They're are plenty of studies of drugs being used outside the U.S. with success but for whatever reason our own gov't won't let us use them. He has been in threads saying coffee was better than TUDCA for the liver and lots of other nonsense. Just ignore him. He hates the fact that I've used Ivermectin(doctor prescribed) and hydroxychloroquine as well. It literally drives him mad. He's probably going to tell people that BPC-157 doesn't work and it's all a placebo. He pretty much trashed a pre-workout thread basically saying most of those ingredients were worthless as well. According to him nothing but the vaccine can help with covid. He's the biggest douche on this site. NAC works wonders but he'll **** on that parade as well. If he thinks NAC is only good for over dosing on tylenol then he belongs on the short bus. He's not a pulmonologist.................he just slept at a Holiday Inn last night!

 

[Tunaking14]

Beta-carotene and vit. A were cited from you study...............nobody was talking about those on here azzhole. I never once said your gov't over lords were trying to kill us. I said I disagree with vaccine mandates and have seen way more side effects from the vaccine than I have from Covid. People that saw our pics could easily tell I was more ripped than you. You are a loser period. 51 years old and I'd still whip your azz. You are a loser who tried to sounds smart but you are nothing more than a sheep.

 

[Dietz1873]

Well I doubt it's used routinely in Europe for alcoholic liver disease either it just hasn't been shown to work for that, or any chronic liver disease. If you're interested in what the research has shown for liver disease and supplements, the best study I've seen for that was by the Veterans Affairs Administration:
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It was done 15 years ago and hasn't really been revisited since... mainly because nothing (except for stopping the insult to your liver) has been found since that halts or reverses the progression of the disease, except maybe coffee. So it's not that people are overlooking or dismissing things like NAC, it just that despite all the research done we can't definitively say that it works in humans for chronic liver problems. If it did we'd have a whole lot less deaths and transplants.

The liver runs out of glutathione in an acute overdose situation, not a chronic daily small liver insult situation. So that's why when I do CPR on a jaundiced alcoholic and watch him die, it's not like my colleagues are saying "that poor bastard should've taken NAC as a preventative."

Hey man you are a fool. You are mentioning death too much like it’s some sort of fucking word to be used as emphasis in making your point against mine. I’ll bet every dollar you aren’t even a pimple on a CNA’s ass, let alone has conducted actually CPR on anyone because trust me you wouldn’t bring in up talking about NAC.

Then you want to reemphasize it, ok. Yeah, let me tell you something, those who have seen people died or have killed people, don’t revisit that **** in their head, infact they hate it if a commercial reminds them of the event alone.

This is about longevity and genes, look up NAC and it’s use throughout the entire world, realize you’re wrong, let you be the first person I have to click the ignore button on, sheeeeeit

 

[Kronic]

(regarding the actual topic)
for glutathione you should do IM. don't do subq because it will hurt a lot for a a few days in my experience. maybe if you dillute the **** out of it, but then your dose will need high volume. I tried dilluting like I do for IM and it was very painful. the injection site swelled up once even. do IM and dillute it a little bit. great stuff

 

[Kronic]

Hey man you are a fool. You are mentioning death too much like it’s some sort of fucking word to be used as emphasis in making your point against mine. I’ll bet every dollar you aren’t even a pimple on a CNA’s ass, let alone has conducted actually CPR on anyone because trust me you wouldn’t bring in up talking about NAC.

Then you want to reemphasize it, ok. Yeah, let me tell you something, those who have seen people died or have killed people, don’t revisit that **** in their head, infact they hate it if a commercial reminds them of the event alone.

This is about longevity and genes, look up NAC and it’s use throughout the entire world, realize you’re wrong, let you be the first person I have to click the ignore button on, sheeeeeit

thanos is an idiot just block him lol

 

[Hyde]

I’ve tried it. I had a good experience for the most part. It does burn like a bitch though, the pip is no joke. Got mine from Amino Asylum.

I’ve only used AA’s as well. It doesn’t come refrigerated and it crashed when I did, and when they sent replacements they said don’t refrigerate it - and then it turned yellow tint within a fairly short span.

It does not seem nearly as potent as an anti-inflammatory now that it’s yellowed (initially it comes clear). So I think they have a formulation issue and it does indeed need to be refrigerated to stay effective, but they are a bad source for it currently. Everything I read from any clinic keeps it refrigerated.

If you take 600+mg IM, before bed, you will wake up with a big reduction in aches like you had used NSAIDs. I think it’s good stuff if you can find a proper source.

It does burn during the injection and cause some PIP for the day. I put it in lats or glutes.

 

[Kronic]

Well I've injected glutathione from quality research chems daily (ventroglute IM) 200mg/ml full concentration for at least a few months and no PIP ever but maybe it was how they brewed it. I just brewed some of my own and we'll see. You're also one that said when you inject anything in a muscle the pain is so bad you can't use the same muscle for awhile. Theoretically, high concentration glutathione may have a pro-oxidant effect on the muscle you inject into.

lol I never said that. I do IM pwo sometimes even. what's wrong with you man? you so delusional that you're calling Bulk Supplements' oral glutathione a quality research chem? you just imagine me saying things I never said now? are you dreaming about me?

 

[Kronic]

Lol just shut your mouth, lay off the pipe and listen and you might learn a thing or two. Quality Research Chemicals is a source for injectable glutathione, just like Amino Asylum. Just google the words and you'll find the site. You can also brew your own with pure powder from Bulk Supplements. I did, and I just injected it about 20 seconds ago. No PIP yet.

It's not hard to do but I wouldn't recommend it for someone so dumb and/or stoned that they can't follow even a few sentences about it. And this isn't the first time you've had trouble following my posts.

good luck injecting the cheapest available oral glutathione powder on the internet. let me know when you start pooping white again

 

[Rocket3015]

Great Info !